So Black people really built them pyramids? We really ruled Egypt n all that shyt?

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cleopatra was 75% greek



but if you can find me a documentary that did her dna and said she stems to African blood, then ill believe you

cacs gonn cac, acting like ancient egypt dont predate cleopatra by 2000-4000yrs :snoop:

We live closer to cleopatra (2000yrs), than the people who built the pyramids did (4000yrs)

to answer your question doe



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There was not blood to mix when they moved up the Nile you ignoramus.

Last I checked a Black momma and a Greek daddy aint going to make you pale.

Egypt began around 3500 BC and yet you listing 1300 BC, WAY AFTER IMHOTEP DEVISED THE PYRAMIDS, as if it matters.All of the things we praise Egypt for had been done by nikkas long before that. fukk out of here.


So you are saying Egypt cant have Ethiopian blood? Nor can it have Lebanese blood frm the get? bc PEOPLE MIGRATED THERE.

The true WHITE color came frm GREECE and ROME. not the areas IM TALKING ABOUT.
whos the racist? im saying people that were brown and yellow mixed migrated TO THE NILE IN THE BEGINNING.

then the fukkery ensued when WHTE and TAN mixed in.

do u not get that??

CLEOPATRA WAS GREEK.

AND PROBABLY PALER THAN HER GRANDMA ON HER MOMS SIDE IF YOU KEPT HER OUT THE SUN.
cleopatra HAD A WHITE FATHER


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Go read the fukking link :what:
I did read it, theyre saying they are not sure if she came from the same mother. They are making the assumption based off a sister with the same greek father, however her mother is unknown. and since when do we claim some 1/8 african Greek woman as a Black Queen, wtf is wrong with you nikkas? :what:
 

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So the Cold War isn't the biggest event in modern history? Communism isn't the biggest buzzword in the past 100 years :russ:

We don't have movies about 300 :stopitslime:

King Louie and Napoleon aren't two of the most recognizable names in history :upsetfavre:

If Spain isn't a point of emphasis then why the movement to claim the Moors? :ohhh:
Lord knows Hitler and the American revolution bullshyt :wow:

And people have to stop with the East Africa is cradle of man talk. It's false. We all come out of Sudan, yes, but West Sudan where our people (Niger-Congo) came out of aint fukking East Africa. Two different groups of Blacks. Timbuktu contributed as much to the knowledges and yet not a word uttered on here.

I'm not saying have no pride in what our cousins did on the East side, no, I'm actually saying be more inclusive because there a whole damn lot more that was happening once Egypt got White washed. Our story doesn't start nor end there.

You all over the place trying to prove your point. We were talking about ancient history and you said its lame that blacks feel so much pride towards Ancient Egypt like there weren't any other kingdoms. And I explained to you white people do the same stuff. Hitler and Napoleon are recognizable names but, white people don't feel pride about Hitler and Nazi Germany like Blacks do Egypt.....which was your point, right.....so your comparison falls flat :upsetfavre:

White people feel the most pride about England, Rome and Greece....which is why we get hundreds of movies and shows about those three. Game of Thrones, The Tudors, Camelot, Merlin, Spartacus, Gladiator, Rome, Immortals, Troy, 300, Alexander, Hercules, Xena, House of Borgias, The Eagle, Clash of the Titans, Wrath of the Titans, King Arthur. You not gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face that Germany and Russia and Spain get the same attention :beli:
 

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If you want to rep a real black egyptian queen. rep Nefertiti. She was 1,000 years prior and who Cleo WISH she could have been.

Nefertiti was an TRUE african goddess, none of the greek mixing bullshyt. :blessed:
Youuuuuuuuuuuumaaaaaaad!!!!!!!?
 

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cacs gonn cac, acting like ancient egypt dont predate cleopatra by 2000-4000yrs :snoop:

We live closer to cleopatra (2000yrs), than the people who built the pyramids did (4000yrs)

to answer your question doe



Cleopatra VII Philopator (Greek: Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ; Late 69 BC[1] – August 12, 30 BC), known to history as Cleopatra,[2][3] was the last active pharaoh of Ancient Egypt, only shortly survived by her son, Caesarion as pharaoh. She was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Greek[4][5][6][7][8][9] origin that ruled Ptolemaic Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period. The Ptolemies, throughout their dynasty, spoke Greek[10] and refused to speak Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents such as the Rosetta Stone.[11] By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian[12] and represented herself as the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess, Isis.

Cleopatra originally ruled jointly with her father, Ptolemy XII Auletes, and later with her brothers, Ptolemy XIII and Ptolemy XIV, whom she married as per Egyptian custom, but eventually she became sole ruler. As pharaoh, she consummated a liaison with Julius Caesar that solidified her grip on the throne. She later elevated her son with Caesar, Caesarion, to co-ruler in name.

After Caesar's assassination in 44 BC, she aligned with Mark Antony in opposition to Caesar's legal heir, Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus (later known as Augustus). With Antony, she bore the twins Cleopatra Selene II and Alexander Helios, and another son, Ptolemy Philadelphus (her unions with her brothers had produced no children). After losing the Battle of Actium to Octavian's forces, Antony committed suicide. Cleopatra followed suit, according to tradition killing herself by means of an asp bite on August 12, 30 BC.[13] She was briefly outlived by Caesarion, who was declared pharaoh by his supporters but soon killed on Octavian's orders. Egypt became the Roman province of Aegyptus.

To this day, Cleopatra remains a popular figure in Western culture. Her legacy survives in numerous works of art and the many dramatizations of her story in literature and other media, including William Shakespeare's tragedy Antony and Cleopatra, Jules Massenet's opera Cléopâtre and the 1963 film Cleopatra. In most depictions, Cleopatra is portrayed as a great beauty, and her successive conquests of the world's most powerful men are taken as proof of her aesthetic and sexual appeal.


Biography
Accession to the throne
The identity of Cleopatra's mother is unknown, but she is generally believed to be Cleopatra V Tryphaena of Egypt, the sister or cousin and wife of Ptolemy XII Auletes, or possibly another Ptolemaic family member who was the daughter of Ptolemy X and Cleopatra Berenice III Philopator if Cleopatra V was not the daughter of Ptolemy X and Berenice III.[14] Cleopatra's father Auletes was a direct descendant of Alexander the Great's general, Ptolemy I Soter, son of Arsinoe and Lagus, both of Macedon.

Centralization of power and corruption led to uprisings in and the losses of Cyprus and Cyrenaica, making Ptolemy XII's reign one of the most calamitous of the dynasty. When Ptolemy went to Rome with Cleopatra, Cleopatra VI Tryphaena seized the crown but died shortly afterwards in suspicious circumstances. It is believed, though not proven by historical sources, that Berenice IV poisoned her so she could assume sole rulership. Regardless of the cause, she did until Ptolemy Auletes returned in 55 BC, with Roman support, capturing Alexandria aided by Roman general Aulus Gabinius. Berenice was imprisoned and executed shortly afterwards, her head allegedly being sent to the royal court on the decree of her father, the king. Cleopatra was now, at age 14, put as joint regent and deputy of her father, although her power was likely to have been severely limited

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I did read it, theyre saying they are not sure if she came from the same mother.

Alright, I'll assume the more logical approach that they shared the same mother since they were so close in age rather than be a Cac optimist and assume she was fully Greek
:beli:


So you are saying Egypt cant have Ethiopian blood?

It's the same group of people :what:
 

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Tommy knocks and aroma are indeed 2 mad individuals.
Tommy knocks iono much.
But I know aroma got that agenda :shaq: you like uneducated tryna spew some st0rmfr0nt propaganda shyt.
It's ok.
 

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Cleopatra VII Philopator (Greek: Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ; Late 69 BC[1] – August 12, 30 BC), known to history as Cleopatra,[2][3] was the last active pharaoh of Ancient Egypt, only shortly survived by her son, Caesarion as pharaoh. She was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Greek[4][5][6][7][8][9] origin that ruled Ptolemaic Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period. The Ptolemies, throughout their dynasty, spoke Greek[10] and refused to speak Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents such as the Rosetta Stone.[11] By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian[12] and represented herself as the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess, Isis.

Cleopatra originally ruled jointly with her father, Ptolemy XII Auletes, and later with her brothers, Ptolemy XIII and Ptolemy XIV, whom she married as per Egyptian custom, but eventually she became sole ruler. As pharaoh, she consummated a liaison with Julius Caesar that solidified her grip on the throne. She later elevated her son with Caesar, Caesarion, to co-ruler in name.

After Caesar's assassination in 44 BC, she aligned with Mark Antony in opposition to Caesar's legal heir, Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus (later known as Augustus). With Antony, she bore the twins Cleopatra Selene II and Alexander Helios, and another son, Ptolemy Philadelphus (her unions with her brothers had produced no children). After losing the Battle of Actium to Octavian's forces, Antony committed suicide. Cleopatra followed suit, according to tradition killing herself by means of an asp bite on August 12, 30 BC.[13] She was briefly outlived by Caesarion, who was declared pharaoh by his supporters but soon killed on Octavian's orders. Egypt became the Roman province of Aegyptus.

To this day, Cleopatra remains a popular figure in Western culture. Her legacy survives in numerous works of art and the many dramatizations of her story in literature and other media, including William Shakespeare's tragedy Antony and Cleopatra, Jules Massenet's opera Cléopâtre and the 1963 film Cleopatra. In most depictions, Cleopatra is portrayed as a great beauty, and her successive conquests of the world's most powerful men are taken as proof of her aesthetic and sexual appeal.


Biography
Accession to the throne
The identity of Cleopatra's mother is unknown, but she is generally believed to be Cleopatra V Tryphaena of Egypt, the sister or cousin and wife of Ptolemy XII Auletes, or possibly another Ptolemaic family member who was the daughter of Ptolemy X and Cleopatra Berenice III Philopator if Cleopatra V was not the daughter of Ptolemy X and Berenice III.[14] Cleopatra's father Auletes was a direct descendant of Alexander the Great's general, Ptolemy I Soter, son of Arsinoe and Lagus, both of Macedon.

Centralization of power and corruption led to uprisings in and the losses of Cyprus and Cyrenaica, making Ptolemy XII's reign one of the most calamitous of the dynasty. When Ptolemy went to Rome with Cleopatra, Cleopatra VI Tryphaena seized the crown but died shortly afterwards in suspicious circumstances. It is believed, though not proven by historical sources, that Berenice IV poisoned her so she could assume sole rulership. Regardless of the cause, she did until Ptolemy Auletes returned in 55 BC, with Roman support, capturing Alexandria aided by Roman general Aulus Gabinius. Berenice was imprisoned and executed shortly afterwards, her head allegedly being sent to the royal court on the decree of her father, the king. Cleopatra was now, at age 14, put as joint regent and deputy of her father, although her power was likely to have been severely limited

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:lolbron: this guy posted some bullshyt from wikipedia he didnt even bother to read :bryan:

you asked for the documentary, so just watch it and learn something. Instead of trying to debate something you have no knowledge of
 

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:lolbron: this guy posted some bullshyt from wikipedia he didnt even bother to read :bryan:

you asked for the documentary, so just watch it and learn something. Instead of trying to debate something you have no knowledge of


What are we DEBATING FOOL??

cleopatra WAS A GREEK BLOODED RULER


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why u so mad? i read it. and it shows cleopatra IS greek mainly,
thats not made up.

and she wasnt dark and had a persian nose

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Alright, I'll assume the more logical approach that they shared the same mother since they were so close in age rather than be a Cac optimist and assume she was fully Greek
:beli:




It's the same group of people :what:
Ok, no we'll just consider Ptolemaic Egypt, which is post-alexander the great (nikka raped and killed all brown folks in his path) to be black excellence because her greek father MIGHT have fukked some mulatto slave, creating Cleopatra who was part of the Greek Elite.

We got like 4 beautiful TRUE african queens, but nah, lets be stuck on the cac one because the europeans called her beautiful and made a few movies about her.
 
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