So instead of giving Jokic his dues, you'd manipulate the scenario to where Murray gets all the credit?
We're firmly in "just make up stances people haven't actually made and argue against them" land now... outside of the silliness of the “manipulated” hypothetical (Again, last full season in NO AD was a top 3 MVP candidate, had a playoff run putting up prime Shaq numbers, and was eliminated by the same KD/Curry Dubbs that swept Bron that year), if somehow NO regressed and missed the playoffs I’d look at Murray dropping multiple 50 point games off some of the most amazing shot making I’ve seen in years and acknowledge that’s exactly the type of player they need on the Pelicans...that’s not giving Murray ALL the credit, that’s acknowledging he’s better than any player AD ever played with in nawlins
What do you mean "salary is hardly the point" - you literally brought that up as a point of emphasis as to why you perceived them of nullifying Jokic, as the reason for why his offensive game is overstated. Those are the type of players who handle the majority of the defensive reps and allow the stars to focus on offense. Why is it you even brought that up in the first place as if Jokic didn't clown a 2x DPOY in the first round?
the point is that there are no shortage of random bench bigs who can be acquired by any team in the league if that’s all it took to nullify Jokic’s “
OMG he’s initiating the offense and he’s big” offensive orchestrating super powers...you’re pretty much making my point for me bringing up Gorbert...he’s the highest end version of “big center that can be thrown at Jokic” to be had in the western conference...but THATS not what disrupted Denver’s offense, just like it wasn’t the combined 25min of Javelle and Dwight that did it against the lakers...Jokics not that type of volume scorer that’s destroying any one defender in the first place..in that first round series Murray and Mitchell took turns dropping 50 looking like prime versions of AI and DWade targeting and abusing Gorbert and Jokic in pick and rolls...AD is the trump card for that shyt
AD doesn't defend legit big men who play in the post, so let's not pretend like those vet min players are some meaningless quantity that don't affect how AD operates on the defensive end. What destroying of offenses would AD be doing if he had to defend Jokic throughout the entirety of the series?
good thing random big oafs are falling off trees and cost nothing so the lakers will always have one ...that way AD can go about his bidness nullifying Jokic’s magical “HES A CENTER THAT PASSES PRETTY YALL
....he’s magic johnson with uncles with Balkan war stories” offensive orchestral symphony super powers (and keep Murray from dropping 50) for seasons to come.... while dropping 30pts on 70% TS% on the other end and proving to anyone with a set of eyes he’s the best big man on the court every time him and joker are on it at the same time
Never mind the fact that Jokic didn't have the same caliber of defensive personnel on his team to defend AD, as the Lakers did for Jokic.
ah shyt, you mean the nuggets couldn’t just go sign Roy Hibbert or some shyt and throw him out there for 20 minutes to solve their AD problem...AD being harder to match up with and game plan for is definitely a reason why Jokic’s the better big
The real bad faith argument here was established long ago when Lakers/Kobe stans carefully manicured a narrative to where AD is at the forefront of the team success, and not Bron (the very thing Bron stans tried to do with their mans). It was literally a pissing contest all throughout the Lakers season thread of which stan base could drown themselves in more dishonesty.
the lakers just cruised to a championship, without being seriously challenged ONCE with their third best player alternating on a nightly basis between a 35 year old Rondo who’s been run out of half the teams in the association the past decade and KCP who only has a roster spot because Bron’s best friend is his agent....Laker fans know better than anybody what the best big and the best wing in the league looks like dragging a top heavy team to championship success....they’re both at the forefront, they both get credit....two top 5 players on the same squad dominating the competition...this isn’t a Lebron and Kyrie situation fam....this is KD and Curry....a term we’ve heard a lot in political circles lately is “elections have consequences”...well guess what, championships have consequences too...AD got the crown as undisputed best big in the league
spend the next year crying about it
