So Anthony Davis ain't the best big in the league??

Is Anthony Davis the best big in the league right now

  • yes

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  • Jokic (makes it easier to ignore you)


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:heh:....we're not a month removed from watching AD wash Jokic on both ends of the court and we're supposed to entertain him being better?

Stop it
More like we saw the Lakers washing the Nuggets.

Neither player was the primary defender of the other, and AD wasn't able to stop Jokic from doing whatever he wanted when he was matched up with him (who can forget Jokic literally backing him down from the 3-pt line, in crunch time for the go-ahead bucket, in Game 2). Jokic had to deal with the best collective defensive frontcourt in the league of Dwight, AD, McGee and Bron in every game, while AD had the luxury of being primarily matched up against a 6-7, 35-year-old Millsap (27 mins total matchup), who's a shell of his former defensive self, and Grant (12 mins total matchup); both who give up a significant size and ability advantage.


Matchups:

Jokic (offense) v. Dwight - 20 mins total matchup, 50% FG (8-16), 12 earned FTs
Jokic (offense) v. AD - 11 mins total matchup, 58 FG% (11-19), 6 earned FTs
Jokic (offense) v. McGee - 6 mins total matchup, 46 FG% (7-15), 0 earned FTs.

He had more success against AD than any other Lakers big.
You mean their respective individual impacts where one had a significant advantage of playing in more favorable conditions?

:usure:

Jokic had a number of ISOs against AD, where he took full advantage of that matchup and did whatever he wanted against him. That avenue of offense would've been exhausted more had AD not had the luxury of having Dwight/McGee rotating on Jokic. If here you're stating it's not a 1v1 exchange, and you don't believe that there was any positional-crossover to any notable degree, and given the fact that AD had the definitively better support cast, how could you possibly come to the conclusion that he washed Jokic on both ends?

Like I said in my original response to your claim -
more like we saw the Lakers washing the Nuggets.
Bro this is legendary juelz'ing just to avoid admitting what was obvious, AD was a better offensive AND defensive player in their series...Dwight and Mcgee are bargin salary bench players that could literally be had by any team in the league...if all it takes to nullify Jokic's amazing otherworldly offensive wizardry is a couple of vet min bench centers that average like 20min against him, that wizardry was overstated in the first place

Except it's not fukking Dwight and McGee that made the difference...if it weren't them it'd be some other interchangeable vet min stiffs in their place...this idea that AD was "allowed the luxury" of being everywhere on the court blowing up pick and rolls, running out to contest what Jokic thought would be open 3s, being an elite rim protector, etc....is not some random luxury because he was blessed to be able to play with Javelle McGee :russ:....it's a skill and impact that ONLY he (and maybe Giannis) has in the entire fukking league...All that playmaking that Jokic has that's supposed to make him so much better on offense, AD's defense diminishes it more than anybody else in the league.... nevermind that Jokic's playmaking is overrated in the first place, as the nuggets still needed otherworldly guard play to barely make it out the first round...cause AD snuffs that shyt out too, Murray couldn't save him.... then on the other side, AD dropping 31 on elite efficiency


AD is better dog, it is what it is
@Long Live The Kane this is why your dumbass should've listened to me at the time.

Everything I said about that series was 100% on the mark and you foolishly thought that AD could handle Jokic all by himself while being just as effective on offense. When he comes up against a legit big man he needs players like Dwight and JaVale to soak up defensive possessions on them. He can't defend legit centers for the entirety of a series. He was food for Jokic in 2020 and was food for him in 2023.

The difference is, he didn't have the personnel around him to guard Jokic in 2023 like he did in 2020. That's the importance of surrounding him with goon big men so he doesn't use up his tank on defending centers, because he can't do it.

This was obvious to anyone paying attention at the time.

And it's obvious to anyone paying attention that when it's mano e mano that Jokic is the superior player. I don't expect you to come in here and admit fault, but let this be a lesson for next time when you think about running your mouth with your shameless ass agendas.

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YOU TAKE LEBRON OFF THE LAKERS AND AD IS AN MVP CONTENDER

Well, this is obvious. AD has all time great talent....It's just like Harden without Embiid...If Harden signs with Houston, he will be a MVP candidate...However.....

* Can AD get the Lakers a high enough seed to win the MVP?
* Can AD make a deep playoff run as the #1?
* Can AD carry the load and stay healthy?

AD couldn't do this prior to joining the Lakers. So it's not a foregone conclusion that he'd be able to do it now.
 

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Well, this is obvious. AD has all time great talent....It's just like Harden without Embiid...If Harden signs with Houston, he will be a MVP candidate...However.....

* Can AD get the Lakers a high enough seed to win the MVP?
* Can AD make a deep playoff run as the #1?
* Can AD carry the load and stay healthy?

AD couldn't do this prior to joining the Lakers. So it's not a foregone conclusion that he'd be able to do it now.



HE COULD IF HE HAD A CAST LIKE EMBIID
 

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Too brittle fam.



Hmmmm..... Switch Healthy AD and Embiid.....I think Sixers win :ohhh:


HIS FIRST 5 SEASONS IN NEW ORLEANS HE NEVER PLAYED LESS THAN 60 GAMES

AND WAS UP TO 28-12 WIT CRAZY GOOD DEFENSE AT THE AGE OF 23

TEAMING UP WIT BRON IS THE WORST THING THAT COULDA HAPPENED TO HIS CAREER
 

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HIS FIRST 5 SEASONS IN NEW ORLEANS HE NEVER PLAYED LESS THAN 60 GAMES

AND WAS UP TO 28-12 WIT CRAZY GOOD DEFENSE AT THE AGE OF 23

TEAMING UP WIT BRON IS THE WORST THING THAT COULDA HAPPENED TO HIS CAREER

He got his ring playing well, but I still don't trust that nikka's durability. I'm listening to trades for both him and Bron.
 

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He got his ring playing well, but I still don't trust that nikka's durability. I'm listening to trades for both him and Bron.

YEA BUT DOES HE GET THAT RING IN A REGULAR SEASON?

N WHY HE NEVER GET CREDIT WHEN HE LED THAT TEAM IN ALL STATISTICAL CATEGORIES?

:jbhmm:

ALL IM SAYIN IS PUT AD ON THE NUGGETS INSTEAD OF JOKIC AND THEYRE STILL CONTENDERS

I THINK AD IS DEPRESSED PLAYIN ON THIS TEAM.. DEPRESSION MAKES U SOFT
 

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YEA BUT DOES HE GET THAT RING IN A REGULAR SEASON?

Chances are definitely lower, but it is what it is and we got it.



N WHY HE NEVER GET CREDIT WHEN HE LED THAT TEAM IN ALL STATISTICAL CATEGORIES?

:jbhmm:

ALL IM SAYIN IS PUT AD ON THE NUGGETS INSTEAD OF JOKIC AND THEYRE STILL CONTENDERS

I THINK AD IS DEPRESSED PLAYIN ON THIS TEAM.. DEPRESSION MAKES U SOFT

He manned up a lot better than I expected for Joker.


I just don't know what we can do to get better. The best option is trading Bron (thankfully he doesn't have a no trade clause :wow: ) and keeping AD.
 
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But anyways Bruh I don't want to hear that bullshyt about Jokic ... Y'all nikkas finally watched dude play ..saw a couple of slow ass behind the back passes and got y'all pussies too wet man lol .. The reality is Murray was carrying the load on offense on several occasions for the nuggets throughout the playoffs while Jokic was hurting his team racking up lazy fouls getting sent to the bench ... Stop making excuses for his deficiencies ... His defense is trash on the high level and there is 0 possibility that he could have anchored this Lakers defense in the way that Anthony Davis did .. like that's just ridiculous to even insinuate... Like look at this Draymond breaks him down perfect
Jokic cannot do ANY of this .... It's embarrassing to even compare the two honestly
Running "a high level offense" means shyt in high leverage situations when your fat lazy ass can't stay on the floor for your team due to woeful one sidedness... Take your L like a man goofy ... Your beloved Fatboy was humiliated on both sides of the ball by the superior player
"Buhhh buhhh buhhh high level offense conducting!!!!!!" :damn:




fukking pathetic :heh:



AD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




Embarrassing comparison
THE fukkING WOAT

:wow:
 
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