Snyder had a plan & Infinity War makes me wish WB had let him do his thing

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Flash is top tier as far as comic book tv shows go

I hear Legends is good too but my backlog is hella deep and I've only seen 5 episodes of the first season

Supergirl is pretty much "The Flash" with Supergirl at this point (and I mean that as a positive), so I never understood the hate for it, it's pretty solid now (1st season was meh but 2nd and 3rd have been quality)

94% on rotton tomatos for those who care about that sorta stuff.


They jacked Snyder's MOS Goku punch in one episode also

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WB dropped the ball, by just canceling the flash movie and making it into the tv show. Then going in a complete shyt show quality direction movie wise.

While having the right property, look, feel, etc. Done exactly right on flash the tv show. Which people have informed me was from an actual movie scrap.

Just total mismanagement and complete ineptitude, because of executive disconnect.

If we all did what dc did as black men.

We would have no career to speak of.

Yet movies and NFL people in particular to name a few. Are allowed to be populated by people who have no actual idea wtf they are doing.
Example: Matt millen

Yet, will pass over someone with obvious knowledge etc because of skin color too.

Like when creed came out.
Dc could have been advantageous and got coogler to do a dc movie. Way way way before marvel. It did not even have to be a race based character. Just the fact coogler resurrected the draw of a property that was so popular. it eventually fell into decline of draw with no possible return from declining quality and lack of consumer brand faith. as a positive result in the Oscar winning sequel drawing rocky franchise. Just simple corporate x's and o's would have saved dcu a character and a property.
Coogler would have been perfect for that. Another just makes no sense move was. When Peter Jackson was not brought in for star wars. Dc should have been begging him to run dcu films. As on paper via market research. He was the candidate. who made the most sense. as far as world building on film with quality, critical and drawing acclaim. Instead you got an inept executive lead dcu film division. That has the top drawing characters, but film wise has bottom of the barrell results. In film's highest grossing genre. In which you as dc. own the largest gateway properties three times before marvel gets to its first mascot in spider man originally. That after the bungling of the dcu. Dcu had/has the largest drawing characters.

All of whom, that have been eclipsed in quality, draw, entertainment etc. by pre-pubescent talking piece of shape shifting ginger root meets a forest ent named groot.

So, now dcu is beaten routinely in draw by a lord of the rings style character. Whose only form of actual communication is the word. That also happens to be the full language and name of the Ent like Peter Jackson character from the lord of the rings.


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Also, to keep it real.

The low quality of the dcu makes me hesitant to even invest in the tv dcu, with black lightning. As I really don't wanna deal with the anger. if I see the show. descend into bullshyt phoney dcu territory. that has never upped game my whole entire life.
Plus play/played revenue grabbing style games and the dcu characters. Especially one who is of color and interesting as black lightning. That could be a promising surprise draw like creed was.

So even their low quality makes me hesitant to watch and very apprehensive to show them support. When I am a former comic book school actual professional level trained and experienced penciler, and letterer. So, that is how extreme dcu lack of quality control. Has created disconnect. In a fan who should be a really easy passionate rabid sell. Plus, has never built any brand loyalty for forty years as well. So all this continued ineptitude comes into play . So dcu has work to do to keep attention drawise to their film properties. If examples of easy hot blind sales leads like me demographic wise are hesitant to support their products. I mean my fukk'n idol Jim lee is at dc and I have not bought one book. Plus am at a point where dc means books and film. Not a separate ideal in draw. That I believe dc execs believes to exist and prey upon. When that is a pissoor idea to bank on. When one creates a warm call lead based a gateway for the other. To hear that come from a Jim lee person like me is pretty extreme. So, dcu has ALL THE WORK TO DO. when it is easy to see they have not done any of the work necessary to succeed or even actually say they compete. Dcu at this point is unacceptable and it needs a heavy shakeup from top to bottom to save this. As real talk. This could create such low brand loyalty. Dcu gets approached by the bicepless mouse.

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The bottom line is Snyder's films were successful and it was leading to a coherent conclusion. Some would have liked it, some would have hated it but it would have been something. Instead Whedon stepped in along with executives and turned Justice League into a movie made for Syfy. It was ugly and the script was poor. That doesn't happen with Snyder, it would have reached a conclusion and the film would have at least looked good.


Dcu execs were silly to hire Snyder because doubt and fan disconnect in an extreme based way
Were present with his work since sucker punch. So off top dcu made a mistake because you hired someone with questionable track records and background. for a film property trying to play catch up. Plus Snyder had dropped the ball on sucker punch. Which fell directly in the age and also female demographic needed for this type of film genre to be ok'd on paper. So dc went into this with poor liability and easy to discern recent market research.
all the way to web trend based data. That easily illicited dc picked THE WRONG fukk'N PERSON.

Anyone who looked at the spread sheet. could tell this was a bad idea from jump.
off simple survey and procurement of the project.

That level of corporate ineptitude and disconnect should create an immediate pathway to the unemployment line.
from top to bottom at the executive grade level.

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Flash is top tier as far as comic book tv shows go

I hear Legends is good too but my backlog is hella deep and I've only seen 5 episodes of the first season

Supergirl is pretty much "The Flash" with Supergirl at this point (and I mean that as a positive), so I never understood the hate for it, it's pretty solid now (1st season was meh but 2nd and 3rd have been quality)

94% on rotton tomatos for those who care about that sorta stuff.


They jacked Snyder's MOS Goku punch in one episode also

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Legends is just too corny for me.
 

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Yeah Warner executives got real greedy with shyt. That's why a lot of them lost their jobs. WB is usually a very intelligent movie studio. They had the movie IT making $126M opening weekend. They had fukkin boring ass Dunkirk making mad money. Usually WB knows how to sell and market. They really fukked up with Justice League.

first they gotta stop calling them "Superhero" movies... stop labeling .. it leads to poor insight, poor vision and irrational decisions...
stop following and just do you.. the dark knight trilogy worked because Batman has no superpowers .. its easy to ground him in reality ... the others you cant...
batman has a dark past that lead to his thinking ... everybodys past aint dark ....
 
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wish they'd let him continue

and its kind of wild since the majority of people that want to see Snyder continue are the fans WB thinks theyre catering to by not giving it to us

THIS IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WANT

like, I'm confused everthing they do makes no sense
 

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wish they'd let him continue

and its kind of wild since the majority of people that want to see Snyder continue are the fans WB thinks theyre catering to by not giving it to us

THIS IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WANT

like, I'm confused everthing they do makes no sense


WB just mad incompetent with big egos that chase mad profits without any inclination or passion for the service they provide. They rather lose money just to spite Zach Synder over one legitimate bad film in Batman VS. Superman than continue his universe or even let it coexist as an alternative universe story.

ATT and HBO will probably have to drop the hammer again on WB after do their yearly CEO firing and let Synder finish his shyt on HBO Max.
 
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WB just mad incompetent with big egos that chase mad profits without any inclination or passion for the service they provide. They rather lose money just to spite Zach Synder over one legitimate bad film in Batman VS. Superman than continue his universe or even let it coexist as an alternative universe story.

ATT and HBO will probably have to drop the hammer again on WB after do their yearly CEO firing and let Synder finish his shyt on HBO Max.
thats sad how egos and dumb shyt like that can get in the way of making create art


this is literally what the people want
 

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Warner is looking @ Snyderverse fans like they are spoiled brats right now.
MoS was a mid level success and BvS was a failure, Snyder turned in a 4 hour movie and then had an unfortunate tragedy. These circumstances lead them to the logical next step to move the fukk on.
And since they did they have found mostly both commercial and critical success higher than anything Snyder did for them. And then their bosses did something fukkin' unprecedented and released a 4 hour second version of a movie that already came out. You would think Snyder fans would be happy and grateful but no it's the opposite. They want them to throw more money at something that didn't work the first time and now has huge legal and PR pitfalls (Ray Fisher situation).
Every exec who greenlit and worked on the OG Snyderverse is gone. The new execs had nothing to do with it and didn't take the job to just redo what was done before. They came into the jobs with their own vision and want to do that instead. And what they have done is more successful than what Snyder did so them not being interested is actually understandable not dumb.
 

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Since DC plans to continue with a shared universe I hope they keep going with the Snyderverse but just move on from Snyder. There's no reason to reboot or re-do what's already happened but also no reason to scrap the foundation they already have. They just need someone with a different vision to guide the ship going forward.
 
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