Snoop: I wasn’t feeling 2pacs Hit Em up/defends biggie

[Will Ross]

..... at that time period am talking about ..... pacs the one who sparked the beef .... and you could also debate pacs the one who got in the middle of a Compton gang-war and intensified it aswell .... Pac couldn’t stop himself from getting into bad situations... usually cause of the bad influence and characters he hung with .....altho snoop could play the fence both sides .... had pac hung more with snoop and dpg instead been around suge and the pirus he would have stayed alive suge isn’t and never has been level headed ....

Pac and biggie would have been alive today if puffy did not play with the gangs he did not understand.

 

[Bigsuk]

Pac said it himself he was “hearing who did him” while he was in prison which Pac is indirectly saying he didn’t have the whole picture of who was involved in the shooting.
When Who Shot Ya was released and the Vibe interviews Pac did were all released around the same time, so of course Biggie/Puffy would get thrown into this considering what Pac was hearing in Jail. What Zayd said to you doesn’t really change anything unless he told you “Pac knew little of what happened at Quad while he was in Death Row”? What Zayd told you is what Pac pretty much said in the jail interviews...


Only thing Zayd cleared up was that Dexter Isaac fiasco and that stretch had nothing to do with the shooting, something I thought as well. I listened to the Info Wars video with Zayd quickly and he doesn’t mention anything about “Pac not knowing much about the Quad incident” so I’d need a link to your convo I’m actually interested in that since Zayd was responding to people in the comment section.

I have no problem when people talk about some of the mistakes Pac done but some of the narrative that you sometimes push is a bit hyperbolic or misses some key info/context. I quickly catch on it because I’ve seen a lot of interviews, whether it makes Pac look good or bad, and I know a lot of the stuff about the Quad incident and the Blood/Crip war that got Pac and Biggie killed.

Nomad ... I know a lot about quad and the piru /crip war or mini war you could call it ... .....just look at the comment section Zayd was going under the name Tyrone ball or bell I think it was .... and my name with sim is in there ... I asked him directly why he was going at biggie n them n he said pac knew very little and was going off assumptions am not lying no need to ..... but again nomad ... you haven’t really responded to wen e money bags flat out told pac to his face wen he went to visit him in prison that badboy had nothing to do with it ... why wen pac got out of prison knowing fine well they didn’t have anything to do with it did he still run with it and didn’t do damage control ?? ... pac could tell the world he didn’t care what people thought but I truly think he did care what street dudes especially thought and didn’t want to take his word back about what he said or put out ....

 

[Bigsuk]

Pac and biggie would have been alive today if puffy did not play with the gangs he did not understand.

Both can’t just put it on puffy .... pac hanging with a bunch of pirus didn’t help the situation either ....

 

[Bigsuk]

I have to see this clip. I’m pretty sure u adding sauce to it tho. Like always.

Am not go watch it ... he said he knew pac was playing he just wanted out prison ..... Dno what your definition of playing means but it clearly means not been serious....

 

[Bigsuk]

You corny as shyt nikka ..I feel sorry for your mother? Lol wtf.. bet you giggled with your sissy English accent as you typed that.. you be in every Pac thread typing up the exact same dumb shyt every time looking for co signs...you the biggest Pac dikkrider on here...heres a clue you bum bytch..no one cares what some cracker in Ipswich thinks..

Cracker ... Ipswich.... good insults Renzo I’ll make a mental note of them ..... pac dikrider coming from you soon as someone says the slightest thing negative about your hero you start crying like the little fakkit you are and write a bunch of paragraphs defending him like hes your dead lover or something .... sad pathetic excuse scurry on you like the fuking rat you are

 

[Renzo]

Cracker ... Ipswich.... good insults Renzo I’ll make a mental note of them ..... pac dikrider coming from you soon as someone says the slightest thing negative about your hero you start crying like the little fakkit you are and write a bunch of paragraphs defending him like hes your dead lover or something .... sad pathetic excuse scurry on you like the fuking rat you are

fukk outta here cornball.. please tell us again for the 1000th time how Pac didnt pass some English queers test of not being real....you wish you were black and American but youll always be a tea sipping gossiping p*ssy..you fantasize over street shyt like a total weirdo..you'll always be on the outside looking in..

 

[kingofnyc]

Pac said it himself he was “hearing who did him” while he was in prison which Pac is indirectly saying he didn’t have the whole picture of who was involved in the shooting.
When Who Shot Ya was released and the Vibe interviews Pac did were all released around the same time, so of course Biggie/Puffy would get thrown into this considering what Pac was hearing in Jail. What Zayd said to you doesn’t really change anything unless he told you “Pac knew little of what happened at Quad while he was in Death Row”? What Zayd told you is what Pac pretty much said in the jail interviews...


Only thing Zayd cleared up was that Dexter Isaac fiasco and that stretch had nothing to do with the shooting, something I thought as well. I listened to the Info Wars video with Zayd quickly and he doesn’t mention anything about “Pac not knowing much about the Quad incident” so I’d need a link to your convo I’m actually interested in that since Zayd was responding to people in the comment section.

I have no problem when people talk about some of the mistakes Pac done but some of the narrative that you sometimes push is a bit hyperbolic or misses some key info/context. I quickly catch on it because I’ve seen a lot of interviews, whether it makes Pac look good or bad, and I know a lot of the stuff about the Quad incident and the Blood/Crip war that got Pac and Biggie killed.

like i told @spliz ... I got absolutely positively no problem with y’all bigging up your favorite artist Mr. Shakur : good for y’all

but why do y’all continuously tell half truths and be disingenuous when it comes to biggie puff and bad boy
you can’t just throw out that the Vibe magazine and the song Who Shot Ya came out at the same time ... when you damn sure know the Vibe interview was done in January 1995 and the song Who Shot Ya was released in February 1995 literally a month later ( as a response to your man insinuating they knew what was going to go down that Infamous night )

 

[Nomad1]

Nomad ... I know a lot about quad and the piru /crip war or mini war you could call it ... .....just look at the comment section Zayd was going under the name Tyrone ball or bell I think it was .... and my name with sim is in there ... I asked him directly why he was going at biggie n them n he said pac knew very little and was going off assumptions am not lying no need to ..... but again nomad ... you haven’t really responded to wen e money bags flat out told pac to his face wen he went to visit him in prison that badboy had nothing to do with it ... why wen pac got out of prison knowing fine well they didn’t have anything to do with it did he still run with it and didn’t do damage control ?? ... pac could tell the world he didn’t care what people thought but I truly think he did care what street dudes especially thought and didn’t want to take his word back about what he said or put out ....

I’m not saying you’re lying, I already seen Zayd respond to fans in the comment section, but I’m not shifting through 2.7k comments just to find yours if I’m being honest.
But like I said, what Zayd said isn’t new, wasn’t Pac saying during prison interviews and interviews during DR days that he wasn’t sure who shot him? And that he was hearing a bunch of stuff in prison? This isn’t new information, it actually corroborates Pac more than anything.

Pac said Biggie “knew” who had him touched but didn’t say or help him in trying to find out who did it. He implicated anyone that was in Quad knew of a setup or was apart of it, and by the time Makaveli came out he named the ones behind it so I don’t know what the problem is.

Vibe comments ——> Response to Puffy talking about Pac and Thug Life, Stretch and Biggie hanging with/associating with people who had him shot

NY 87 is a response to ——> Biggies radio comments

Hit Em Up is a response to ——> Who Shot Ya

Tupac jumps Orlando——> A response to Puffy putting a hit on DR chains/revenge for Tray getting jumped

Gang War in LA——> Was because Puffy linked up with the South Side Crips

I’m not saying Pac was innocent in all of this but a lot of the major things that happened seemed like a response from DR/Pac to Biggie and Puffys antics. This is a fact.

E Money Bagz, or whoever, told Pac who had him touched and that doesn’t change anything. He did mention them in Against All Odds right? There’s no discrepancy or hidden agenda.

 

[kingofnyc]

Pac and biggie would have been alive today if puffy did not play with the gangs he did not understand.

again and again and a fukking again ... I don’t understand why you nikkaz on here, love to just tell half truths ; incomplete stories and be completely disingenuous ... you damn sure know the reason why puff aligned himself up with Crips

 

[Bigsuk]

fukk outta here cornball.. please tell us again for the 1000th time how Pac didnt pass some English queers test of not being real....you wish you were black and American but youll always be a tea sipping gossiping p*ssy..you fantasize over street shyt like a total weirdo..you'll always be on the outside looking in..

Ohh renzo renzo renzo we been here before ... am done and dusted going back and forth with you go catch a bone or crawl in a hole you worm...

 

[Nomad1]

like i told @spliz ... I got absolutely positively no problem with y’all bigging up your favorite artist Mr. Shakur : good for y’all

but why do y’all continuously tell half truths and be disingenuous when it comes to biggie puff and bad boy
you can’t just throw out that the Vibe magazine and the song Who Shot Ya came out at the same time ... when you damn sure know the Vibe interview was done in January 1995 and the song Who Shot Ya was released in February 1995 literally a month later ( as a response to your man insinuating they knew what was going to go down that Infamous night )

No I meant there’s a lot of stuff happening in 1995 in terms of both sides trying to get their story out. It’s easy for us to make certain opinions 20+ years later but DURING when all of that shyt was happening, Biggie and Pac were slowly getting info.

 

[Bigsuk]

I’m not saying you’re lying, I already seen Zayd respond to fans in the comment section, but I’m not shifting through 2.7k comments just to find yours if I’m being honest.
But like I said, what Zayd said isn’t new, wasn’t Pac saying during prison interviews and interviews during DR days that he wasn’t sure who shot him? And that he was hearing a bunch of stuff in prison? This isn’t new information, it actually corroborates Pac more than anything.

Pac said Biggie “knew” who had him touched but didn’t say or help him in trying to find out who did it. He implicated anyone that was in Quad knew of a setup or was apart of it, and by the time Makaveli came out he named the ones behind it so I don’t know what the problem is.

Vibe comments ——> Response to Puffy talking about Pac and Thug Life, Stretch and Biggie hanging with/associating with people who had him shot

NY 87 is a response to ——> Biggies radio comments

Hit Em Up is a response to ——> Who Shot Ya

Tupac jumps Orlando——> A response to Puffy putting a hit on DR chains/revenge for Tray getting jumped

Gang War in LA——> Was because Puffy linked up with the South Side Crips

I’m not saying Pac was innocent in all of this but a lot of the major things that happened seemed like a response from DR/Pac to Biggie and Puffys antics. This is a fact.

E Money Bagz, or whoever, told Pac who had him touched and that doesn’t change anything. He did mention them in Against All Odds right? There’s no discrepancy or hidden agenda.

Nomad it does change things .... pac Knew before he left the prison biggie had no involvement or prior knowledge based off what a legit street cat in the know told him to his face .... yet he did no damage control once he got out .... just kept pushing that narrative ..... I mean I was once convinced dexter Issac was involved a while back and not so sure now .... as far as pac not knowing who shot him .. am pretty sure 90% of people are not 100 % sure who the 3 robbers /shooters are still til this day ... alll most People just know jimmy henchman was the main player behind it .....

 

[Renzo]

Ohh renzo renzo renzo we been here before ... am done and dusted going back and forth with you go catch a bone or crawl in a hole you worm...

fakkit aint it tea time in London? Shouldnt you be putting on your jolly knickers and tucking your little switch blade guvna!? You get shyt on bc you a lame bird brain bytch..how some p*ssy that lives in a pissy village out in some shytty forest out in London that never held a oowop in his hands going be the official word on who official and who isnt? fukk outta here pasty faced pig skin bytch

 

[Nomad1]

Nomad it does change things .... pac Knew before he left the prison biggie had no involvement or prior knowledge based off what a legit street cat in the know told him to his face .... yet he did no damage control once he got out .... just kept pushing that narrative ..... I mean I was once convinced dexter Issac was involved a while back and not so sure now .... as far as pac not knowing who shot him .. am pretty sure 90% of people are not 100 % sure who the 3 robbers /shooters are still til this day ... alll most People just know jimmy henchman was the main player behind it .....

Im going to look at the Vibe stuff and interviews and get back to you. Got to refresh myself on some of the Quad stuff.

 

[spliz]

Am not go watch it ... he said he knew pac was playing he just wanted out prison ..... Dno what your definition of playing means but it clearly means not been serious....

Playing about what tho? I’m confused. What does Bad Boy beef have to do with him getting out of prison? Him getting locked up had nothing to do with Bad Boy.