Snoop Dogg rails against 'Roots' in expletive-filled video

[MostReal]

I just need more balance in the narratives.
I really hope this Nat Turner film is legit

Also really need to see a John Horse Seminoles film.

I've had my fill of these typical slave films.

 

[Rell84shots]

So where do you suggest our kids learn about slavery? Let's be honest most black parents are not going to sit their kids down every night and teach you hem about slavery school and Hollywood are the most practical avenues. Thank god for programs like roots that show slavery in such gritty detail.
they're now calling slavery "indentured servitude" and saying it wasn't "that" bad in our children's textbooks. Without films like roots how would our kids be reinforced with this info?

You ever hear of a series called Hidden Colors?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The worst thing about the stance of not telling these stories is that you have whites everywhere that really do want to sweep this stuff under a rug. I almost slapped a dude today for saying "another Roots. Just another reminder to everyone that whites WERE evil. Isn't there anything else to tell in history" My reply was, hard to find any history of this country where there wasn't evil being performed by whites. Like it or not, these people need to be reminded and the world shown, and we need to remind ourselves instead of being passive and comfortable. It irks me everytime that the Holocaust is considered the end all, be all of suffering by whites. You never hear them say, that was 70 years ago get over it. You see the utmost respect given to any surviving victims or even to their families. Contrast that with how blacks are treated in the same context of an institution that went on for centuries. We should just get over it and not remind them of it. If you're taking that we were docile or subservient from the new Roots movie, you're falling for the same trap Snoop is. They want you to forget. They don't want to believe there's a legacy. Of course there are other stories of black people. Make those too, but for whatever reason, there's a huge segment of White Americans that think slavery wasn't a big deal and that millions were killed, raped, mamed, experimented on, etc.

Nobody said anything about not telling the stories or forgetting about them.

People have taken offense to hollywoods propensity to remove triumphant black faces from history yet they have no problem showing black folks gratuitously being beat rapped and tortured.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

But the difference between what you're saying and roots is that the show literally gives a back story to life in Africa. You see the hierarchy, you see kunta talking about not wanting to go to school in Timbuktu and learning to become a warrior. The dignity of the African, the intellect, the hierarchy of their society not the backwards idiots that we are taught that Africans were before the white man. It's amazing how this part is totally overlooked.

This dumb shyt here

 

[AkilinaArina]

How am I moving the goal post and also schindlers list is not graphic. You're proven my point.

Spielberg's violence isn't gratuitious but it gets the point across I already reference Amistad in juxtapose to roots.

So the scenes where Jews are hanged and shot in the head aren't graphic? Or is that just ur opinion? And who the fukk are u to tell someone else what they should perceive as gratuitous violence? You ask me for a movie about the holocaust where there is graphic violence. Schindlers list is literally graphically violent which is one of the reasons why it's in black and white in the first place (in order to receive an R rating) then you say well it isn't "gratuitously violent". Moving the goal post for the third time, I originally asked you to name three movies centered around Jews as a people that has nothing to do with the holocaust or one of their other tragedies and you still haven't answered that question.The pianist has many scenes where's he's just walking and is stopped by nazis and the people that he is stopped with are all brutally shot in the head or beaten. But then again u have an agenda so I guess none of those scenes will be "gratuitous" to you. You're working off of opinion while I'm working off of facts.

 

[AkilinaArina]

Nobody said anything about not telling the stories or forgetting about them.

People have taken offense to hollywoods propensity to remove triumphant black faces from history yet they have no problem showing black folks gratuitously being beat rapped and tortured.

You do realize that one isn't mutually exclusive to the other right? Like you can have slave movies while having other black historical stories (which there are and y'all still complain, see the reaction to Selma) or don't even go see it (red tails) and y'all do realize that getting mad at slave films is not going to solve the problem right? The lack of "empowering" black films has nothing to do with slave films. And who are you to tell anyone what they should draw power from? I found roots to be empowering and so does many other blacks. Both of these stories NEED to be told and that isn't the fault of slave films. Y'all are calling for the end of slave movies because there's "too many" which in itself is problematic.

 

[AkilinaArina]

This dumb shyt here

You call what I'm saying dumb, it's so dumb that you still haven't refuted it.

 

[AkilinaArina]

The worst thing about the stance of not telling these stories is that you have whites everywhere that really do want to sweep this stuff under a rug. I almost slapped a dude today for saying "another Roots. Just another reminder to everyone that whites WERE evil. Isn't there anything else to tell in history" My reply was, hard to find any history of this country where there wasn't evil being performed by whites. Like it or not, these people need to be reminded and the world shown, and we need to remind ourselves instead of being passive and comfortable. It irks me everytime that the Holocaust is considered the end all, be all of suffering by whites. You never hear them say, that was 70 years ago get over it. You see the utmost respect given to any surviving victims or even to their families. Contrast that with how blacks are treated in the same context of an institution that went on for centuries. We should just get over it and not remind them of it. If you're taking that we were docile or subservient from the new Roots movie, you're falling for the same trap Snoop is. They want you to forget. They don't want to believe there's a legacy. Of course there are other stories of black people. Make those too, but for whatever reason, there's a huge segment of White Americans that think slavery wasn't a big deal and that millions were killed, raped, mamed, experimented on, etc.

Let them when it's completely written out of textbooks and there is no point of reference to slavery at all then they will learn. Everyone honors their tragedies while we're vehemently running away from ours.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You do realize that one isn't mutually exclusive to the other right? Like you can have slave movies while having other black historical stories.

Problem is, we don't. According to Hollywood black history is slavery and civil rights. That's it.

(which there are and y'all still complain, see the reaction to Selma) or don't even go see it (red tails) and y'all do realize that getting mad at slave films is not going to solve the problem right?

As consumers our only power over the industry is choosing what to spend our money on. If we reject these movies then they will stop being made. Then we must support the correct films.

The lack of "empowering" black films has nothing to do with slave films.
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It has everything to do with slave films. Empowered black faces are threatening to white folks. Crying sobbing drooling black faces are empowering to white folks.

It's no coincidence which one Hollywood likes to promote.

And who are you to tell anyone what they should draw power from? I found roots to be empowering and so does many other blacks.

Good for Yall, I guess. But I don't see it. There's nothing empowering about suffrage porn to me.

Both of these stories NEED to be told and that isn't the fault of slave films. Y'all are calling for the end of slave movies because there's "too many" which in itself is problematic.
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It's not a true story. It's some fictional shyt. There is no story being told, it's just black people suffering, and white folks lining their pockets off of it

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

I watched it.. didn't peep it for a history lesson or anything just for the production/actiing etc... I thought it was a pretty solid overall. It rushes ahead a little bit too fast between generations... But, yea, if you don't like brutal violence against defenseless black slaves this one ups the graphic violence. I don't think there was one white character in the whole series that was redeemable in the entire series.. The acting was top notch and the overall production/directing from ppl like Mario Van Peebles was solid as well...

The black women on here were throughout especially Anika Noni Rose.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Let them when it's completely written out of textbooks and there is no point of reference to slavery at all then they will learn. Everyone honors their tragedies while we're vehemently running away from ours.

The existence of slavery movies has nothing to do with textbooks

As ROOTS sits on TV there is a textbook being written calling slaves "immigrants"

We should honor our tragedies by protecting them. Not letting white folks use them to line their pockets while telling bogus ass stories.

Letting white folks make slavery movies is not honoring anything.

And stop with the "running away form history" nonsense.

Nobody is running away. As black men we confront this everyday. There is no running away.

 

[AkilinaArina]

You ever hear of a series called Hidden Colors?

Bye.

 

[AkilinaArina]

Problem is, we don't. According to Hollywood black history is slavery and civil rights. That's it.


As consumers our only power over the industry is choosing what to spend our money on. If we reject these movies then they will stop being made. Then we must support the correct films.

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It has everything to do with slave films. Empowered black faces are threatening to white folks. Crying sobbing drooling black faces are empowering to white folks.

It's no coincidence which one Hollywood likes to promote.


Good for Yall, I guess. But I don't see it. There's nothing empowering about suffrage porn to me.

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It's not a true story. It's some fictional shyt. There is no story being told, it's just black people suffering, and white folks lining their pockets off of it

How is this not a true story? Aside from the characters being fictional what part of the story is a lie? Africans weren't stolen from Africa? Were they not abused? Beaten? Raped? Hung? How is this suffrage porn? It happeneddddddd. What are you saying cause I'm really tryna figure out what you are even talking about. And when you say support the correct films what exactly are you saying? Movies that have tried to appeal to people like you, that weren't violent (red tails) y'all did not even go to see it and I bet y'all excuse is gonna be "well it was about the civil rights movement" as if that film didn't have important information in it that you were ignorant of before it.

The difference between what you're saying and what I'm saying is you're saying we should stop supporting slave films so they don't get created and when they stop getting created "support the correct films" what the fukk does that even mean? If we stop supporting them they will not be made and where does that leave us? Where does that leave our stories? And whose going to make these correct films? Because people have been complaining about this for years yet haven't made the "correct" films. This movie was written by, directed by and stars black people yet you guys still have a problem with it.

 

[Rell84shots]

Bye.

I expected as much

 

[AkilinaArina]

The existence of slavery movies has nothing to do with textbooks

As ROOTS sits on TV there is a textbook being written calling slaves "immigrants"

We should honor our tragedies by protecting them. Not letting white folks use them to line their pockets while telling bogus ass stories.

Letting white folks make slavery movies is not honoring anything.

And stop with the "running away form history" nonsense.

Nobody is running away. As black men we confront this everyday. There is no running away.

And that's the point every thing we experience as black people is linked directly to that brutality and that same slavery that y'all quote unquote "don't like seeing". Our ancestors were abused from they were born to the day that they died and what do they get in return "shiiiiii man I'm tired of y'all story show me something better" like how fukking typical. These stories being told don't stop other more glamorous black stories from being made. Regardless of if those glamorous stories are being made slavery stories need to be made.