Snoop Dogg calls out today's rappers for sampling other artists hit songs and f*cking it up.

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Dre wasn't sampling already established rappers

These were primarily tracks from different genres, for them to feel a way about it makes sense because they don't make rap so the energy is completely different.

You pretending you don't understand Snoop is talking about these people out here sampling top 40 rap songs from the 90s-00s that plenty of people still recognize easily, it's not the same at all

the rule of thumb is to sample from a different genre unless it's really obscure
Ironically DJ Paul himself said as much in an interview about ten years ago

"I feel bad for these kids now because we was sampling shyt like Curtis Mayfield and Willie Hutch and they all just sampling us"
 

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I don't give a fukk what an artist considered the most popular music of their childhood.

1. Dudes in the 90s wasn't just sampling what was their most popular music of their childhood. Dudes was sampling some obscure ass shyt that was not apart of their childhood also.

2. The overall point is if you sample it better not be wack.

3. Mafukkas now could be sampling r&b, pop, or other genres and chop the shyt up to be fire, they have way more technology to do so, yet they make the most basic ass boring sampling ass shyt.


If you mad, so what?
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Yeah you just proved you just an older cat looking for a reason to hate on the younger generation. Gotcha.
 

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Thats a great way to describe it,"tribute records":scust:


But Jay did have "Me And My Girlfriend". But at least he did put a spin on it. But its the same thing,taking an old song and making it cornier for the purpose of making a hit. Because its usually watered down as hell.


Often was the case that the rapper or the creative spearhead of the song (a role sometimes and often reserved for the music producer (ever hear of producers shopping songs? These are entire song productions ready to go plug and play throw a verse on it and you're on your way - the biggest producers - Pharrell, Timbaland - these guys were known for having these songs ready for certain premiere artist, sometimes crafting them specifically for them or with them in mind). Dr. Dre is not known for this so much as he is known for producing and launching an artistic brand - this is a different wheelhouse - with that, you go to Dr. Dre for what you want he doesn't come to you with the song for you (in the way that Pharrell and Timbaland do ... Keep in mind, the artists that work with the bese type of producers. These "collaborations" (if you can call them that) are often for their singles, this points to the artist having little control in the creative direction of the most commercial song that their brand will put out, and often what they will come to be known for

Nowadays there's no musicality to the process, what they are highlighting is the fact that a rapper today will download a beat from the internet with no connection to the music and make a "song" with it - when an entire aspect of the songwriting process is subverted here and thus the song that the artist is known for, the song they "made" is merely a rap over music they had no input in the creation of
The greater rappers went to their producer with the sample that they had in mind when they wrote the rap in their head, sometimes these rappers worked with producers whose credits amount to studio session work and most of their productions are done at the word of a creative director - a good label keeps these on hand for their artist's disposal. You may of heard these popularly referred to (in a certain instance) as "wack room" producers, essentially session players

Tupac sampled this and made Dear Mama - and in highlighting that I'm saying the music was used for him to bring an entire different concept and idea to the music thus elevating the original music into a new song production (that does the original music justice, rather than hosting your own dance off around it)



And you'll see songs like this sampled all through Tupac's catalog ... This usually points to a childhood where they were particularly exposed to or educated on the music that their family members or elders listened to


On the other side of the spectrum.... Jay Z sampled Me & My Girlfriend from 1996 and made .... Me & My Girlfriend from 2003

That one was almost a cover with radio mix added ... An early Kanye production if I'm correct



But anyway, the parent company of the parent company owns the same parent company so of course they wanna keep putting out the same stuff over and over again the remind you of the old one and help parents recognize what their kids are into. They don't have an original idea in the film world either - the industry is designed around making SAFE promotional investments, rarely (unless heavily invested in a brand) are they looking to make creative statements. The create for the masses, in a society that revolves around consensus validation aspects of familiarity within the media go a long way in that
 

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Yeah you just proved you just an older cat looking for a reason to hate on the younger generation. Gotcha.
You sound dumb as fukk.

You got triggered and had to quote me.

Don't come on here and pretend like you a gen z nikka you old mafukka. :dead:

I bet you 1 of these old nikkas still trying to rap.

AARP mixtape ass nikka.:umad:
 

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Time moves WAY faster now but things change way slower. From 1992 to 1972 is like 2 completely different worlds compared to now from 2004. Alot of the artists from then are still around now making the same type of music. For instance. Someone like Soulja Boy came out almost 20 years ago. Jeezy was doing Trap Music in 2005. So was Gucci Mane. These artists HAVE to go back further if they want to move shyt forward. And it's an appreciation for music that helps u get there. I know a cat right now that's 26 that can tell u all about Prince n all kinda shyt like that. But hes not ur average 26 year old. Like I said before. Time moves faster but things change way slower. It makes for a weird dynamic. And Gen Z has a TERRIBLE mentality when it comes to learning from the past. Absolutely terrible. Check this video out.


Look at the mentality of Millennials vs Gen Z when it comes to the music making process. The way they think. And the end result. It's a REASON why all the highest selling musicians in the world are all Millennial and older. Lol. And thats across genre's.


Aren't Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, Billie Eilish, and Chappelle Roan all zoomers lol.

I agree everything moves faster but it's still a 20 year gap, and in both cases you have parents playing that music for their kids as they grow up. Should they delve deeper? Yes. It seems like collectively the farthest back a lot of these young producers and artists will go is like....90s r&b. Jodeci samples and shyt like that.

You're also right about the weird way they don't interact with anything past a certain point. I saw a clip of an NBA rookie saying he tried to watch The Godfather but turned it off after 10 minutes because it was in black and white (????) and was too long. The lack of artistic and intellectual curiosity is stunning.

Everything is being designed to kill attention spans. One of the many things I enjoyed about the Kendrick/Drake rap battle was both not giving a fukk about that. Family Matters is a 7 minute song. Meet The Grahams is nearly 7 minutes, and Euphoria is over 5 minutes. Those are the longest songs a lot of kids have ever heard. Do I think that's gonna usher a return to an era where radio often played long songs like Purple Rain or Kashmir? No, but anything that shows these dumbass kids that other shyt is possible is good in my mind. You have to push envelopes because somebody is gonna catch it and carry it on.
 
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