Snoop Dogg calls out today's rappers for sampling other artists hit songs and f*cking it up.

[Piff Perkins]

Did yall even watch the video? They both addressed that. And they were right. 100%. Matter fact. I feel like hip hop is too busy sampling other hip hop. Hip hop artists in the past had an appreciation for the music prior to hip hop like soul music, funk, rnb etc etc. So they were putting a new spin on the samples that wasn't there before. Thats damn near ENTIRELY missing today. Cats like Dre would go and actually get the funk artists and have them replay and interpolate the samples as well. There was musicianship and appreciation. Cats like Havoc would flip a sample so crazy the shyt wouldn't even be discovered until like 20 years later. Thats one thing someone like Kendrick does and it's so rare that it's extremely noticeable which is why he gets so much praise for doing so. It's not many artists willing to do what he's doing. Kanye used to. But he's nuts. Tyler does. Which is why he stands out as well.

On one hand I agree with you, on another I don't. Looking back at early 90s hip hop, if we rewind the clock from 1992 by 20 years, that puts you in 1972. If we do the same from 2024, you get 2004. I don't think it's crazy that producers today are mining the early 2000s anymore than 90s producers mining the 1970s. Go ask your parents what they think about Mo Money Mo Problems and most of them gonna say that shyt is lazy as fukk. It's a straight up loop of the original record. And frankly while Dre did get musicians to replay samples at times and is a great producer....a lot of his most iconic beats are straight loops of 1970s funk.



The part I agree with you on is that the 2000s sample records not only sample the beat, the rapper is basically re-doing the melody of the original song plus taking the hook in many cases. Mo Money Mo Murder has a basic sample loop like I said but Mase comes up with his own melody/flow. He's not jacking Diana Ross' melody and integrating it into a rap performance, he's doing his own thing based on the pocket of the record. Compare that to the queen of this lazy ass shyt....

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Well that depends on who you're asking. Cats our age in the early 90s thought hip hop was trash and used to always say the rappers were messing up perfect songs.

AND they had a point.

Just like the op has a point.


Sampling is cheating.

But if you gone cheat it better be fire to the group you targeting.

In the 90s it was sampling from a different genre to make a rap song fire to the teens and young adults of the 90s.

If you sampling a rap song and make another rap song and it don't even move the current generation or anybody, then you definitely wack as fukk.

 

[Sbp]

AND they had a point.

Just like the op has a point.


Sampling is cheating.

But if you gone cheat it better be fire to the group you targeting.

In the 90s it was sampling from a different genre to make a rap song fire to the teens and young adults of the 90s.

If you sampling a rap song and make another rap song and it don't even move the current generation or anybody, then you definitely wack as fukk.

If you agree that they had a point then you should agree that Snoop has no argument here. The artists of today are doing the exact same thing he was doing. You can say it was from another genre but what it really was was the popular music of their childhoods. For any artists today who's in their early 20s to early 30s the most popular music of their childhoods would be... HIP-HOP.

 

[_genocidecutter_]

Nikkas ain't even chopping anymore they're just remaking the whole song terribly or using the same beat with some extra 808s added

 

[spliz]

On one hand I agree with you, on another I don't. Looking back at early 90s hip hop, if we rewind the clock from 1992 by 20 years, that puts you in 1972. If we do the same from 2024, you get 2004. I don't think it's crazy that producers today are mining the early 2000s anymore than 90s producers mining the 1970s. Go ask your parents what they think about Mo Money Mo Problems and most of them gonna say that shyt is lazy as fukk. It's a straight up loop of the original record. And frankly while Dre did get musicians to replay samples at times and is a great producer....a lot of his most iconic beats are straight loops of 1970s funk.



The part I agree with you on is that the 2000s sample records not only sample the beat, the rapper is basically re-doing the melody of the original song plus taking the hook in many cases. Mo Money Mo Murder has a basic sample loop like I said but Mase comes up with his own melody/flow. He's not jacking Diana Ross' melody and integrating it into a rap performance, he's doing his own thing based on the pocket of the record. Compare that to the queen of this lazy ass shyt....

Time moves WAY faster now but things change way slower. From 1992 to 1972 is like 2 completely different worlds compared to now from 2004. Alot of the artists from then are still around now making the same type of music. For instance. Someone like Soulja Boy came out almost 20 years ago. Jeezy was doing Trap Music in 2005. So was Gucci Mane. These artists HAVE to go back further if they want to move shyt forward. And it's an appreciation for music that helps u get there. I know a cat right now that's 26 that can tell u all about Prince n all kinda shyt like that. But hes not ur average 26 year old. Like I said before. Time moves faster but things change way slower. It makes for a weird dynamic. And Gen Z has a TERRIBLE mentality when it comes to learning from the past. Absolutely terrible. Check this video out.


Look at the mentality of Millennials vs Gen Z when it comes to the music making process. The way they think. And the end result. It's a REASON why all the highest selling musicians in the world are all Millennial and older. Lol. And thats across genre's.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Pops used to say Dre made a million just looping parliament and Clinton, Snoop might wanna sit this out

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The problem with these types of conversations is that you literally go back in time and find older artist doing the exact same thing that Snoop is complaining about this current generation doing today. You got posters in her copping pleas trying to have revisionist history about their generation as as Snoop is giving them confirmation bias about their feelings about today‘s music.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

If you agree that they had a point then you should agree that Snoop has no argument here. The artists of today are doing the exact same thing he was doing. You can say it was from another genre but what it really was was the popular music of their childhoods. For any artists today who's in their early 20s to early 30s the most popular music of their childhoods would be... HIP-HOP.

You don't tell me what I should do.


I don't give a fukk what an artist considered the most popular music of their childhood.

1. Dudes in the 90s wasn't just sampling what was their most popular music of their childhood. Dudes was sampling some obscure ass shyt that was not apart of their childhood also.

2. The overall point is if you sample it better not be wack.

3. Mafukkas now could be sampling r&b, pop, or other genres and chop the shyt up to be fire, they have way more technology to do so, yet they make the most basic ass boring sampling ass shyt.


If you mad, so what?
Die.

 

[CrossBones]

Has anyone here actually heard the original La di da di? On Snoop's album its got drums, bassline, synthline, and full production. Literally what he was saying, if you're going to take something old then put some spin on it and not fukk it up

 

[zayk35]

Ppl missed the whole point.

 

[BigTyme Records]

Yep agree. The blog era had some dope shyt. But the recent auto-tune trap, Atlanta sound, drill sound. Is just played out bruh. That shyt is so trash

 

[Still Benefited]

Na they right, people don’t just sample the music anymore they will bite the whole song and it be worse than the original.

Does Tyga think that was a Fabolous record? Seems like he was paying homage,but to the wrong nikka?


Was that a Fabolous record and Im wrong? Couldve swore they crucified the legend known as Lil Flip for that record. I tried to block it out,id rather remember him from the Lucky Charm suit days

 

[Still Benefited]

Snoop literally said what I've said in here many times, verbatim. Hip-Hop's relationship to reinterpolations has typically been taking a great song production of year's past and then simply having someone replicate or offer a play on the original chorus while inserting rap verses between. This often resulted in watering down the original song ... As nothing of creative merit was added to the SONGWRITING

The great's built and expanded upon the samples they touched on

Rappin 4 Tay when he sampled I'll Be Around - what a lofty task, to build and expand upon THAT song .... Tupac did this often

This is different then your song coming out like a half-baked tribute to the original - where you added nothing


From an element of songwriting,

I've posted this before, and you can see how readily I can summon a full understanding of the subject right here, whereas many will hear what he just said and beyond perceiving the words they will have no perspective on what was said


It brings me a sense of validation to realize I have the same perspective that some of the most successful people in this field do

Thats a great way to describe it,"tribute records"


But Jay did have "Me And My Girlfriend". But at least he did put a spin on it. But its the same thing,taking an old song and making it cornier for the purpose of making a hit. Because its usually watered down as hell.

 

[duncanthetall]

I agree with them. It’s not just sampling now, they bite the whole damn song but make it dumber and lazier. That Latto chick is the worst at it and I fukking hate the talentless bytch. Just drizzle whoredom and bird babble over classics and calls it a day

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]