I would put him on the high end of whats possible naturally
He has the highest muscle to body fat ratio I would say a natural lifter can get
Nothing looks weird. He doesnt have them dianabol traps/shoulders, arms arent Laron Landry size, no HGH gut etc
His drugs are consistency and time
:cmonjay: :cmonjay: lots of people use those "drugs" and don't look like that. Dude uses prohormones at least, which are technically not roids but have the same damn effect.
I would put him on the high end of whats possible naturally
He has the highest muscle to body fat ratio I would say a natural lifter can get
Nothing looks weird. He doesnt have them dianabol traps/shoulders, arms arent Laron Landry size, no HGH gut etc
His drugs are consistency and time
IDK man. He has the perfect frame and Im pretty sure hes from the motherland. I would say its mostly genes and time. If u have over a decade of good lifting and dieting u can get pretty far. Its possible he had help but I dont think his body is outside the realm of whats possible.:cmonjay: :cmonjay: lots of people use those "drugs" and don't look like that. Dude uses prohormones at least, which are technically not roids but have the same damn effect.
How do u know he is juicingPanda is one of the biggest frauds out there. Of course he's juicing.
I hate "natural" bodybuilders lying all the damn time, because they want to make money from youtube, and their sponsors.
My damn mom thought I was juicing back when i first started liftingI feel like once you get size and aesthetics that you are going to get accused of juicing no matter what
lolMy damn mom thought I was juicing back when i first started lifting