Should The Government Subsidize The Incoming Gas increase?

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Didn’t the Government buy a shyt load of oil for reserves when shyt was dirt cheap during Covid??

isn’t the reason for having reserves is for times like rn??
 

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Gas prices are about to go up because of the support the United States is giving Ukraine but some of these costs are hitting close to home. Should this administration be responsible for paying off the energy companies in order to keep our prices at the pump stable?

This 7 dollar shyt is not the move for commuters.


Good points but I'll disagree.....the government trying to help consumers always ends up being big wins for companies and not for main street Americans. Once you go down the road of subsides it is hard to let go. It might good for the country to go through this hardship to really curtain the how urban areas, finances, and way of life depends on complex motorized vehicles that are dependent on a non reusable fuel source and constantly needs maintenance.
 
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Oil reserves are for when it gets really bad like a full out blown war and your enemy has bombarded your industry.

A subsidy doesn't make sense because it doesn't deal with the real problems and it only encourages OPEC and other oil producing countries to lower supply and jack up the price. Only way to defeat them is to reduce your thirst as a buyer. Also a gas subsidy doesn't help everyone and is not fair. Why not just give everyone $1200 cash and call it a day. However once again this isn't a solution.

America's policies have been part of this problem for a long time. They simply refused to encourage development of electric vehicles and other alternative fuels. In some instances even sabotaged them. The Texas Republicans and Bush Sr administration really put a hurting to this industry because they were direct beneficiaries of the oil industry. Talk about a real conflict of interest.

This crisis is a wake up call to everyone to drive less, walk more, bike more, take public transit, call out your politicians for more public transit investments, etc.
 

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They have a strategic reserve. This looks like the right time to utilize it.

If the Democrats were smart, they'd be banging Manchin over the head with this seeing as electric vehicles and superchargers were part of the BBB plan he keeps blocking.

If strategic reserve can't lower the price even a little, then there's very little point in having it.

Nah that's gotta be saved for if the country is in total ruin, like damn near collapse of society type mad max shyt. Not because gas is getting expensive
 

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Oil reserves are for when it gets really bad like a full out blown war and your enemy has bombarded your industry.

A subsidy doesn't make sense because it doesn't deal with the real problems and it only encourages OPEC and other oil producing countries to lower supply and jack up the price. Only way to defeat them is to reduce your thirst as a buyer. Also a gas subsidy doesn't help everyone and is not fair. Why not just give everyone $1200 cash and call it a day. However once again this isn't a solution.

America's policies have been part of this problem for a long time. They simply refused to encourage development of electric vehicles and other alternative fuels. In some instances even sabotaged them. The Texas Republicans and Bush Sr administration really put a hurting to this industry because they were direct beneficiaries of the oil industry. Talk about a real conflict of interest.

This crisis is a wake up call to everyone to drive less, walk more, bike more, take public transit, call out your politicians for more public transit investments, etc.
Exactly
 

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Gas prices are about to go up because of the support the United States is giving Ukraine but some of these costs are hitting close to home. Should this administration be responsible for paying off the energy companies in order to keep our prices at the pump stable?

This 7 dollar shyt is not the move for commuters.
Nah
 

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MAGA babble thread :scusthov: let's try to keep this type of thing in TLR going forward :scust:
 

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Oil reserves are for when it gets really bad like a full out blown war and your enemy has bombarded your industry.

A subsidy doesn't make sense because it doesn't deal with the real problems and it only encourages OPEC and other oil producing countries to lower supply and jack up the price. Only way to defeat them is to reduce your thirst as a buyer. Also a gas subsidy doesn't help everyone and is not fair. Why not just give everyone $1200 cash and call it a day. However once again this isn't a solution.

America's policies have been part of this problem for a long time. They simply refused to encourage development of electric vehicles and other alternative fuels. In some instances even sabotaged them. The Texas Republicans and Bush Sr administration really put a hurting to this industry because they were direct beneficiaries of the oil industry. Talk about a real conflict of interest.

This crisis is a wake up call to everyone to drive less, walk more, bike more, take public transit, call out your politicians for more public transit investments, etc.
I think it's a wakeup call that our money can be used for war profiteering with us getting the short end of the deal. Another win for gas companies
 

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Usually we get conditioned to eat rising gas costs over the years. In this case the hike is more immediate, glaring and we see the cause is because of the governments foreign policy. Policy many would say isnt necessary. Do we need to eat this after getting ravaged during the pandemic?

Is there a strong used market for electric cars? Being forced to buy a Chevy Volt wasn't in the average person's 2022 budget
I'm pretty sure the American majority are in favor of sanctioning Russia as a result of their war against Ukraine. Who is this "many"?
 

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I'm pretty sure the American majority are in favor of sanctioning Russia as a result of their war against Ukraine. Who is this "many"?
The minority, in your assumption.

So in your opinion this American majority are ok with the blowback from sanctions even if it means an extra 2 dollars at the pump per gallon and would have agreed before hand?
 

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The minority, in your assumption.

So in your opinion this American majority are ok with the blowback from sanctions even if it means an extra 2 dollars at the pump per gallon and would have agreed before hand?
Who said anything about 2 dollars?

Regardless, yes, Americans are OK with the sanctions right now. Will they be OK with the resulting higher energy prices in a few months, I don't know. We'll find out.
 

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Who said anything about 2 dollars?

Regardless, yes, Americans are OK with the sanctions right now. Will they be OK with the resulting higher energy prices in a few months, I don't know. We'll find out.
Would they be ok with present sanctions if they had an understanding of the costs, later.

I paid 5.80 something this morning for gas and I'm not ok with the extent to which the US is sanctioning if it means this trend will continue raising prices.

If the us wants to continue this proxy war they need to make Me not feel it, by subsidizing gas. They can fight with the gas companies and get better results then the people can
 
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