Should the fatherless blame their Mom for not being wise enough to choose a solid Man?

[Dameon Farrow]

You can't have a proper discussion regarding this online or in person unless you 100% blame the male. Otherwise people tune you out.

It should go without saying that op is not referring to a woman that got lied to or raped or the father died. But folks will focus on 'youre generalizing' instead of admitting we have females making babies just to have one. Yes that happens. More than you think too. They're sheep. They see their friends have kids and get all this attention and they want it too.

Oh and since it isn't obvious for some reason, ITS NOT EVERYBODY.

 

[Man]

Coli still so simple to troll

Hilarious thread

 

[Mowgli]

No talking about when you are a kid

Good luck with that. Find time to beat your mother after she comes home from her 2nd shift...

Ungrateful b*stard

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Oh it's the shyt on black women thread. That train is never late so I'm not surprised.

Okay here's the deal. We should actually thank single moms for single-handedly keeping our race from extinction. 70% of children being born to single parent families means a small amount of blk women (3 million to be exact) are actually just about the ONLY ones having babies.
Without these impoverished baby boomers, our race would be in the negatives, b/c other blk women just ain't with it.

So the whole "they should choose better" brigade needs to acknowledge that MOST blk women DID choose better. They not fukking with blk dudes who wanna have illegitimate babies...at ALL. Or when faced with being blamed by some ungrateful fukks for actually sticking it out or living carefree and aborting them...they are choosing the latter.

Now u can go for some fake outrage over abortion or not but the reality is MOST blk women are saying no to motherhood period b/c they want to avoid the risk of blk dudes up and deciding that this shyt ain't worth it no more and never being heard from again and then being blamed for doing the right thing and sticking by their children.

And btw roughly half of all single moms are a product of divorce. So this fukked up narrative of blk women choosing dudes who ain't no good needs to stop. These were women in actual relationships that didn't work out for whatever reason.

The other half are the blk women who grew up in just as much of a broken community as the deadbeats she is fukking, so magically expecting her to be a responsible individual while acknowledging the ain't shyt proclivities of her partners is a waste of time.

The even BIGGER irony is that all the blk female bashers who are constantly neck-yapping about how horrible single mothers ALWAYS ignore that one little stat that reeeeeally doesn't help their argument: As horrid as these chicks allegedly are, the majority of them have children by MULTIPLE BLK MEN. So ya'll yuck moufs are writing checks that ur dikks are letting bounce.

You support going from hood to hood to literally look for easy p*ssy. Easy b/c she grew up impoverished, desperate, in dire straights (and some blk dudes wanna do this overseas now too but we won't get into international OOW rates or even the amount of single white women walking round in Wal-mart with brown kids by themselves). But u prey on easy p*ssy and then wanna bytch about these chicks being unable to be responsible. You fukking them raw for that VERY reason. You LITERALLY fukking wounded wildebeasts and getting on a soapbox about why they chose to get eaten by lions.

So yes you share the blame for selling false dreams, trying to exploit and take advantage of blk chicks who just as broken and fukked as her males, and then fukking abandoning her with ur babies...

AND THEN trying to bytch at them when they take responsibility and raise their kids as best they can, even when their men failed to.

shyt is ridiculous. But I've got solutions. Start by working towards a stronger economy for our community, petition to improve our schools and for more community programs to provide counseling for blks in broken situations, and for the love of God---stop doing ur best impersonation of a racist sorry ass white dude going to sexually exploit chicks in 3rd world countries, while acting all shocked and appalled at high OOW rates, neglect and impoverished situations when u and ur dikk directly contributing to that.

We gotta be better. The lack of understand and empathy we have towards people in our race is disgusting. Ya'll not looking for solutions. U just wanna be absolved of responsibility.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Lmao! What makes this topic even funnier is the dudes in our race who are LITERALLY pro-raw/anti-marriage.

LMAO! Logic?! Nope! Not even.

Lmao! The other joke is the low amount of blk children actually being born. I swear public health advanced statistics should be MANDATORY in school so we aren't constantly bamboozled by shyt produced about our race.

There aren't even a lot of blk children being born PERIOD.

70% of 10 kids by 3 blk chicks who have an average of 3.5 kids per person, the majority of whom are by multiple baby daddies.

When we look at single parent homes in our community, you don't want to look all the issues or a global perspective. B/c it doesn't make blk women OR blk men look good.

 

[NoChillJones]

We get it. You have a different world view.

Some of us however, do believe that it is optimal for a father to live with his children and his wife/children's mother, co-nurture them directly on daily basis, and have the capacity to dine with them and tuck them in with bedtime stories every night possible.

Further, some of us do believe that a successful community for children is comprised of households where the majority of them are led by a married wife/mother and husband/father.

To suggest that there is no difference between a dedicated father living with his children, cooking for
them, playing with them everyday, attending parental conferences at school, putting them to bed nightly -- versus a non-residential biological father who might live thousands of miles away from his child (just a text away...) -- in my view, challenges basic logic (and as of today, all contemporary research on best outcomes for children and parents, as Dr. Natalie Carroll's comments reinforce).

And there are millions of fathers out there proving you wrong every day. There is no fundamental proof that fathers need to be husbands to parent correctly. I mean that's part of your value and I can appreciate it as I am married to my children mother.....but ITS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. to parenting.

And your comparing a father who may live 10 or 20 mins away for a child who he sees every day other day, or every weekend, or 2 weekends out the month to a father who might see his kids only for holidays. Using the most extreme example of co-parenting. I am saying that co-parenting does and can work.

If you really check my post you see I am always an advocate of fathers taking care of their children. But I also don't attest to this ridiculous theory that single parent households are ruining the black community. Because its not true. The lack of both parents actually parenting is ruining the community. There is a major difference between the two. But pundits who like to criticize the black race will use that 72% statistic as to say this is why we are impoverished, or live in high crime areas or etc, etc. While I will state that a 2 income household will always be better for the child then one. I've seen first hand fathers raising their kids while living outside of the home. They are just as dedicated to their children lives as fathers who live in the home. There is really no significant difference other then the astigmatism that every black family must be nuclear in America and if we are not then our problems are somehow all our fault.

 

[ThatTruth777]

should be included in the equation in some form if you're going to be honest, the degree of which is up to debate however

 

[NoChillJones]

Lmao! What makes this topic even funnier is the dudes in our race who are LITERALLY pro-raw/anti-marriage.

LMAO! Logic?! Nope! Not even.

Lmao! The other joke is the low amount of blk children actually being born. I swear public health advanced statistics should be MANDATORY in school so we aren't constantly bamboozled by shyt produced about our race.

There aren't even a lot of blk children being born PERIOD.

70% of 10 kids by 3 blk chicks who have an average of 3.5 kids per person, the majority of whom are by multiple baby daddies.

When we look at single parent homes in our community, you don't want to look all the issues or a global perspective. B/c it doesn't make blk women OR blk men look good.

Thats not true breh.......

 

[semicko82]

Oh it's the shyt on black women thread. That train is never late so I'm not surprised.

Okay here's the deal. We should actually thank single moms for single-handedly keeping our race from extinction. 70% of children being born to single parent families means a small amount of blk women (3 million to be exact) are actually just about the ONLY ones having babies.
Without these impoverished baby boomers, our race would be in the negatives, b/c other blk women just ain't with it.

So the whole "they should choose better" brigade needs to acknowledge that MOST blk women DID choose better. They not fukking with blk dudes who wanna have illegitimate babies...at ALL. Or when faced with being blamed by some ungrateful fukks for actually sticking it out or living carefree and aborting them...they are choosing the latter.

Now u can go for some fake outrage over abortion or not but the reality is MOST blk women are saying no to motherhood period b/c they want to avoid the risk of blk dudes up and deciding that this shyt ain't worth it no more and never being heard from again and then being blamed for doing the right thing and sticking by their children.

And btw roughly half of all single moms are a product of divorce. So this fukked up narrative of blk women choosing dudes who ain't no good needs to stop. These were women in actual relationships that didn't work out for whatever reason.

The other half are the blk women who grew up in just as much of a broken community as the deadbeats she is fukking, so magically expecting her to be a responsible individual while acknowledging the ain't shyt proclivities of her partners is a waste of time.

The even BIGGER irony is that all the blk female bashers who are constantly neck-yapping about how horrible single mothers ALWAYS ignore that one little stat that reeeeeally doesn't help their argument: As horrid as these chicks allegedly are, the majority of them have children by MULTIPLE BLK MEN. So ya'll yuck moufs are writing checks that ur dikks are letting bounce.

You support going from hood to hood to literally look for easy p*ssy. Easy b/c she grew up impoverished, desperate, in dire straights (and some blk dudes wanna do this overseas now too but we won't get into international OOW rates or even the amount of single white women walking round in Wal-mart with brown kids by themselves). But u prey on easy p*ssy and then wanna bytch about these chicks being unable to be responsible. You fukking them raw for that VERY reason. You LITERALLY fukking wounded wildebeasts and getting on a soapbox about why they chose to get eaten by lions.

So yes you share the blame for selling false dreams, trying to exploit and take advantage of blk chicks who just as broken and fukked as her males, and then fukking abandoning her with ur babies...

AND THEN trying to bytch at them when they take responsibility and raise their kids as best they can, even when their men failed to.

shyt is ridiculous. But I've got solutions. Start by working towards a stronger economy for our community, petition to improve our schools and for more community programs to provide counseling for blks in broken situations, and for the love of God---stop doing ur best impersonation of a racist sorry ass white dude going to sexually exploit chicks in 3rd world countries, while acting all shocked and appalled at high OOW rates, neglect and impoverished situations when u and ur dikk directly contributing to that.

We gotta be better. The lack of understand and empathy we have towards people in our race is disgusting. Ya'll not looking for solutions. U just wanna be absolved of responsibility.

No choosing the right partner helps the black community a lot. Both male and female are to blame for this

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Thats not true breh.......

Our birth rates have fallen dramatically...so much so that we are actually below the replacement levels for people in our race.
Demographers estimate that we literally lost a generation due to falling fertility rates of blk females during recessions. Media has always stereotyped us as overlyfecund and hyperfertile to distract from plummeting birth rates.
The image of Bonequesha with 8 kids doesn't show the other 7 blk women with no children. It's a smokescreen. Why do we keep falling for lies about our community?
And this is across races btw but I'm just focusing on our race...
I think it's a world depopulation conspiracy. Get people panicking about OOW babies to distract from falling birth rates period.

https://www.theroot.com/has-the-great-recession-wiped-out-a-black-generation-1790877802

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.../health/united-states-fertility-rate.amp.html

CDC: Overall Fertility Rate Down 10% Among U.S. Women

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

And there are millions of fathers out there proving you wrong every day. There is no fundamental proof that fathers need to be husbands to parent correctly. I mean that's part of your value and I can appreciate it as I am married to my children mother.....but ITS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. to parenting.

And your comparing a father who may live 10 or 20 mins away for a child who he sees every day other day, or every weekend, or 2 weekends out the month to a father who might see his kids only for holidays. Using the most extreme example of co-parenting. I am saying that co-parenting does and can work.

If you really check my post you see I am always an advocate of fathers taking care of their children. But I also don't attest to this ridiculous theory that single parent households are ruining the black community. Because its not true. The lack of both parents actually parenting is ruining the community. There is a major difference between the two. But pundits who like to criticize the black race will use that 72% statistic as to say this is why we are impoverished, or live in high crime areas or etc, etc. While I will state that a 2 income household will always be better for the child then one. I've seen first hand fathers raising their kids while living outside of the home. They are just as dedicated to their children lives as fathers who live in the home. There is really no significant difference other then the astigmatism that every black family must be nuclear in America and if we are not then our problems are somehow all our fault.

Sorry, I don't believe in black fathers assuming the role of satellite parents for their children.

And that is what a non-residential father is: satellite parenting (at best). Those instances should be the exception, rather than the rule for fathers and their vital relationships with their children.

And just from an economic efficiency position, if black dad is living in a separate household, doesn't
that circumstance require him to financially contribute to two households rather than partnering on just one
with his wife?

When did black folk become so affluent where we are able to easily fund double households?

I can safely say the every non-residential/single/disconnected father I personally know who doesn't live with their children, deeply wishes that they did reside with them, and feels intense pain at every wave goodbye when they leave their children at a separate household.

Tyler Perry captured the "pain of the goodbye" well in "Daddy's Little Girls."

Perhaps you are comfortable with our families living at the highest rates of residential dislocation
from one another (see chart below), but I think that you are indeed a "throwback" in this regard.

Today, most sociologists, social work practitioners, family law practitioners, etc., have abandoned the "it doesn't matter if you are married for the children" mantra of the 1960s/1970s white sexual revolutionaries.

 

[NoChillJones]

Sorry, I don't believe in black fathers assuming the role of satellite parents for their children.

And that is what a non-residential father is: satellite parenting (at best). Those instances should be the exception, rather than the rule for fathers and their vital relationships with their children.

And just from an economic efficiency position, if black dad is living in a separate household, doesn't
that circumstance require him to financially contribute to two households rather than partnering on just one
with his wife?

When did black folk become so affluent where we are able to easily fund double households?

I can safely say the every non-residential/single/disconnected father I personally know who doesn't live with their children, deeply wishes that they did reside with them, and feels intense pain at every wave goodbye when they leave their children at a separate household.

Tyler Perry captured the "pain of the goodbye" well in "Daddy's Little Girls."

Perhaps you are comfortable with our families living at the highest rates of residential dislocation
from one another (see chart below), but I think that you are indeed a "throwback" in this regard.

Today, most sociologists, social work practitioners, family law practitioners, etc., have abandoned the "it doesn't matter if you are married for the children" mantra of the 1960s/1970s white sexual revolutionaries.

What does the common American who makes this work for them say? It cones down to your preference breh....and your preference is not the end all be all on the subject..its just that your preference..so you cant address your preference as some rule of thumb....

 

[Shorty K]

Sorry, I don't believe in black fathers assuming the role of satellite parents for their children.

And that is what a non-residential father is: satellite parenting (at best). Those instances should be the exception, rather than the rule for fathers and their vital relationships with their children.

And just from an economic efficiency position, if black dad is living in a separate household, doesn't
that circumstance require him to financially contribute to two households rather than partnering on just one
with his wife?

When did black folk become so affluent where we are able to easily fund double households?

I can safely say the every non-residential/single/disconnected father I personally know who doesn't live with their children, deeply wishes that they did reside with them, and feels intense pain at every wave goodbye when they leave their children at a separate household.

Tyler Perry captured the "pain of the goodbye" well in "Daddy's Little Girls."

Perhaps you are comfortable with our families living at the highest rates of residential dislocation
from one another (see chart below), but I think that you are indeed a "throwback" in this regard.

Today, most sociologists, social work practitioners, family law practitioners, etc., have abandoned the "it doesn't matter if you are married for the children" mantra of the 1960s/1970s white sexual revolutionaries.

Oms it's like the older I get the more I understand why certain societies kick b*stards out. They spread they little b*stardly thought process and attempt to normalize degenerate behaviors like satellite parenting. Broken family ass nikkas really tryna say a broken family ain't an L

Ain't nothing respectable at all about two people that can't live together raising kids. Y'all pretty much have failed your kids.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

What does the common American who makes this work for them say? It cones down to your preference breh....and your preference is not the end all be all on the subject..its just that your preference..so you cant address your preference as some rule of thumb....

Not saying at all that my view is Revealed Law.

I think we've learned for certain the past four decades what works in developing healthy families
and communities, and what doesn't work.

Our exchange has been respectful, and I've enjoyed the trading of views with you on this.

 

[NoChillJones]

Not saying at all that my view is Revealed Law.

I think we've learned for certain the past four decades what works in developing healthy families
and communities, and what doesn't work.

Our exchange has been respectful, and I've enjoyed the trading of views with you on this.

The feeling is mutual, I will say this though. The essence of a "healthy family" can be benefited from a 2 parent home, but its more so the values that each parent instills into their children. And marriage is not necessarily a "value" that should be seen as healthy simply because its marriage.