Should the Bible be taught in school?

[MMS]

Most are.

so if a toddler is a theist before going into elementary school but becomes an atheist coming out of elementary school (assuming they are teaching a bible study class) your conclusion is because they read the bible?

am I reading this right? why do you associate the bible with unbelief? Some folks take the book and beat people with it, but others use the book to save people

dont let the handler of the books, confuse you of the one who is the source of the book

 

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so if a toddler is a theist before going into elementary school but becomes an atheist coming out of elementary school (assuming they are teaching a bible study class) your conclusion is because they read the bible?

am I reading this right? why do you associate the bible with unbelief? Some folks take the book and beat people with it, but others use the book to save people

dont let the handler of the books, confuse you of the one who is the source of the book

Well Im not the poster that made that statement but we are indoctrinated at home and taught only one way and whatever extra bias your parents or whoever sprinkles on top of it.
Now if it's taught in school it should be from an unbias academic prospective.
I would think kids would ask the questions that they can't ask their parents out of fear or they know they'll just get told to not question it.
Just in that video I posted above talks about the inconsistencies in Genesis and how it was picked from different sources

 

[The Fade]

Only if it’s taught with bíblical Greek and biblical Hebrew, accompanied with Midrash


Throw that atrocity called KJV away.

 

[MMS]

Only if it’s taught with bíblical Greek and biblical Hebrew, accompanied with Midrash


Throw that atrocity called KJV away.

provide an example where the KJV is irrevocably different in understanding to the Septuagint and Masoretic Texts

because @Sccit and @Koichos would both say the Septuagint cant be trusted either if you are going that route.

Well Im not the poster that made that statement but we are indoctrinated at home and taught only one way and whatever extra bias your parents or whoever sprinkles on top of it.
Now if it's taught in school it should be from an unbias academic prospective.
I would think kids would ask the questions that they can't ask their parents out of fear or they know they'll just get told to not question it.
Just in that video I posted above talks about the inconsistencies in Genesis and how it was picked from different sources

everyone will always have questions whether its a holy text or not, the thread is more about whether the Bible should be included as a source of material to read

so the biases and extra can only be attributed to the handlers of the book be they parents or faculty. I still dont see a reason why it shouldnt be considered

biblical poetry is not like other texts and the purpose of the books of the bible are definitely different in understanding but only believers will consider this completely.

In either case as I asked @Luke Cage if fictional books can be used as a source of literature, why not any holy text?

Jesus says:

We are to be "doers" of the law, not judges. So anyone who comes to you to condemn you with the law, is announcing that they are a judge (as per Gods statement that he would raise up Judges amongst the people)

some scripture to meditate on
Bible Gateway passage: Romans 2 - King James Version

 

[Tasha And]

As an elective like in a world religions class, then yes. Right alongside other religious texts.

TBH, my world religions class during junior year, and particularly reading and discussing the Bible in school set me on a path towards becoming an atheist. That was where I learned about how the Bible was put together and all other kinds of context that I never got at church.

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

Separation of church and state

 

[Luke Cage]

As an elective like in a world religions class, then yes. Right alongside other religious texts.

TBH, my world religions class during junior year, and particularly reading and discussing the Bible in school set me on a path towards becoming an atheist. That was where I learned about how the Bible was put together and all other kinds of context that I never got at church.

If people won't accept religion as an elective, and are insisting it be required, thats proof right their this is just an attempt at indoctrination and nothing more. Because not a single college requires credits in Christianity for any applicants.

 

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everyone will always have questions whether its a holy text or not, the thread is more about whether the Bible should be included as a source of material to read

so the biases and extra can only be attributed to the handlers of the book be they parents or faculty. I still dont see a reason why it shouldnt be considered

biblical poetry is not like other texts and the purpose of the books of the bible are definitely different in understanding but only believers will consider this completely.

In either case as I asked @Luke Cage if fictional books can be used as a source of literature, why not any holy text?

Jesus says:

We are to be "doers" of the law, not judges. So anyone who comes to you to condemn you with the law, is announcing that they are a judge (as per Gods statement that he would raise up Judges amongst the people)

some scripture to meditate on
Bible Gateway passage: Romans 2 - King James Version

And those questions will lead to a good chunk being closet atheist. They would still be young enough to where the indoctrination isn't so ingrained to where they wouldn't feel the need to find any reason to cling on to it because it was so much a part of them.

The Bible isn't just any ole book. People take it very seriously definitely in the South to where some wackjob(s) would threaten the teacher if he or she taught the Bible in an unbias secular academic way to kids. It doesn't have the luxury as other fictional books because it has been beaten in people's heads over centuries that it's a holy book and it's the word of God. In college, whatever, but K-12 is just going to cause problems.

Also like many other posters have stated: separation between church and state.

 

[MMS]

And those questions will lead to a good chunk being closet atheist. They would still be young enough to where the indoctrination isn't so ingrained to where they wouldn't feel the need to find any reason to cling on to it because it was so much a part of them.

The Bible isn't just any ole book. People take it very seriously definitely in the South to where some wackjob(s) would threaten the teacher if he or she taught the Bible in an unbias secular academic way to kids. It doesn't have the luxury as other fictional books because it has been beaten in people's heads over centuries that it's a holy book and it's the word of God. In college, whatever, but K-12 is just going to cause problems.

Also like many other posters have stated: separation between church and state.

to me indoctrination has nothing to do with the bible and only with the churches

someone who reads and feels the words of the Bible can do so without ever stepping foot in a church. But many fictional books also indoctrinate people into occult understandings unknowingly

so to me whats currently happening is worse because those texts do so in a clandestine way whereas the Bible is upfront about what its about.

IE there are plenty of pagan practices in childrens cartoons let alone in books yet they are unregulated so is it separation of specific churches and state or separation of ALL churches and state

 

[010101]

yes everything is best held under the light of constant inquiry

send all the claims of spiritual revelation to school for testing

the bible & all the other books of scripture

a large part of the problem is people handle that shyte with no intelligence

they consume it in spaces of indoctrination not space of education

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[Gritsngravy]

visit an orthodox church once

and dm me afterwards

What is an Orthodox Church

 

[MMS]

What is an Orthodox Church

see below

yes everything is best held under the light of constant inquiry

send all the claims of spiritual revelation to school for testing

the bible & all the other books of scripture

a large part of the problem is people handle that shyte with no intelligence

they consume it in spaces of indoctrination not space of education

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its the difference between liturgy and pastoral services



a house of worship is not the same as a house of study

 

[MMS]

@*~bigg~vvvave~*

speaking of hidden messages not being taught, can you hear the hidden message in this song?


We are living in a world of illusion

goosified

 

[Left.A1]

I mean sure...dont they already have theology classes anyway? Don't really see how this is controversial as long as it's studied as a historical document just like the declaration of independence and not as an evangelizing tool

 

[010101]

@*~bigg~vvvave~*

speaking of hidden messages not being taught, can you hear the hidden message in this song?


We are living in a world of illusion

goosified

we can have different interpretations

i hear nothing you may hear the opposite

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