Should the Bible be taught in school?

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Absolutely.

They use Biblical ideas and imagery in everything from shyt like Man Of Steel to actual laws.

The idea of it being the year 2022 is based on the concept that Jesus would be 2022 right now had he lived.

It's perhaps the most influential work of literature of all time.

I wouldn't go as far as to tell kids that the shyt IN the Bible is historical fact. But that's part of education also. The Bible suggests the Earth is like 10,000 YO but Science says it's more like a few BILLION. And so forth.

Part of "knowing" the Bible is definitely knowing the contradictions, how it was likely written, what was left out, what was changed.

As with anything worth studying, knowing the Bible will help know Western civilization. Which you HAVE to understand and interact with even if you flee to the furthest corner of the planet.

 

[Pseudonym]

We read it in an IB Literature class in high school but as folklore

 

[MMS]

Absolutely.

They use Biblical ideas and imagery in everything from shyt like Man Of Steel to actual laws.

The idea of it being the year 2022 is based on the concept that Jesus would be 2022 right now had he lived.

It's perhaps the most influential work of literature of all time.

I wouldn't go as far as to tell kids that the shyt IN the Bible is historical fact. But that's part of education also. The Bible suggests the Earth is like 10,000 YO but Science says it's more like a few BILLION. And so forth.

Part of "knowing" the Bible is definitely knowing the contradictions, how it was likely written, what was left out, what was changed.

As with anything worth studying, knowing the Bible will help know Western civilization. Which you HAVE to understand and interact with even if you flee to the furthest corner of the planet.

take it a step further, Christianity is represented completely different by the Western and Eastern interpretations respectively, but in the West most people only know the history taught from the Catholic -> Martin Luther side of things

truthfully if I had not discovered the Orthodox branches I would probably still be sleep. Hearing them and learning about the OG church reinvigorated my understanding and drew me much closer than I've ever been I've even opened my eyes to Jewish understandings that I would also not consider if not for the internet.

With all the technology available its easier than ever to consider all the religious perspectives side by side. This wasn't always the case for hundreds of years so many people have a chance to kindle faith without the threat of violence and oppression...this also means that those beholden to demons have to see their sins in real time via video/internet

John 15:21-27

21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

 

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I mean sure...dont they already have theology classes anyway? Don't really see how this is controversial as long as it's studied as a historical document just like the declaration of independence and not as an evangelizing tool

That's the controversy right there. Literature is one thing, historical document is another

 

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this is why you should re-read the bible, cause its pretty blatant in America.

that said you dont have to fear it nor worry about it. Rather as long as you are of internal understanding none of those things will effect you or cause you problems. But children who are not with spiritual direction can be lead into these things unknowingly. I'm not the kind of parent of abstains completely but Id like to give my seeds a foundation of their spiritual understanding so they can go out with assurance and strength in the face of the many dialogues happening in the world

for the record, ANY book can become a factual historical book when a person acts on its words. Take that to heart.

I feel we will just keep going in circles so let's agree to disagree

 

[MMS]

I feel we will just keep going in circles so let's agree to disagree

circling where? I have a consistent position on it

language used to be holy, so the use of it today doesnt seem of consequence to most people, but there are people who try to weaponize it

thats why folks are currently scrambling like I said our God is great, so I do not worry

That's the controversy right there. Literature is one thing, historical document is another

heres the kicker, who writes the historical document but the victors?

your history could be entirely fabricated, then its all literature

 

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circling where? I have a consistent position on it

language used to be holy, so the use of it today doesnt seem of consequence to most people, but there are people who try to weaponize it

thats why folks are currently scrambling like I said our God is great, so I do not worry


heres the kicker, who writes the historical document but the victors?

your history could be entirely fabricated, then its all literature

Circling by just repeating ourselves and saying the same thing.

Christians are the victors, though. Even with that it isn't a historical document. Even the founders of this country were worry about it and didn't include it in the constitution.

 

[MMS]

Circling by just repeating ourselves and saying the same thing.

Christians are the victors, though. Even with that it isn't a historical document. Even the founders of this country were worry about it and didn't include it in the constitution.

victory over what? exactly?

a nation is a nation, but a group of people who believe something (Israel - Jacob) is something else entirely

you dont choose the nation you are born in, or how you appear, but your beliefs are wholly your own. Nations may or may not last, and if you go by biblical perspective the nations are subject to cycles due to their sin.

Thats why the scriptures speak at length about protecting Jacob but also chastizing Jacob from the very judgments Jacob has laid on himself and others. People who put their faith in the nations will end up getting chewed up and spat out as a nation is like a giant undead creature that eats and eats until it gets eaten itself.

No matter what people try to do to save nations there is nothing that brings people together more than belief.

 

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That's the controversy right there. Literature is one thing, historical document is another

You saying the Bible is a modern work?

I'm pretty sure the bible is a historical document.... Not to be confused with a documentation of history Of course

 

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I thought this fits with the discussion

 

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You saying the Bible is a modern work?

I'm pretty sure the bible is a historical document.... Not to be confused with a documentation of history Of course

I got what you are saying. Ancient religious text is probably a better name. Historical document makes it seem like it was a historical law, constitution, or something along those lines.

 

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victory over what? exactly?

a nation is a nation, but a group of people who believe something (Israel - Jacob) is something else entirely

you dont choose the nation you are born in, or how you appear, but your beliefs are wholly your own. Nations may or may not last, and if you go by biblical perspective the nations are subject to cycles due to their sin.

Thats why the scriptures speak at length about protecting Jacob but also chastizing Jacob from the very judgments Jacob has laid on himself and others. People who put their faith in the nations will end up getting chewed up and spat out as a nation is like a giant undead creature that eats and eats until it gets eaten itself.

No matter what people try to do to save nations there is nothing that brings people together more than belief.

It being world wide shows it's victory over all other religions. It turned a lot of smaller religions into myths in modern people's eyes. It's so embedded in our society that people will look at you funny if you say you don't follow it and say you'll go to hell.

 

[MMS]

It being world wide shows it's victory over all other religions. It turned a lot of smaller religions into myths in modern people's eyes. It's so embedded in our society that people will look at you funny if you say you don't follow it and say you'll go to hell.

you could say the same about Islam, Buddhism, Taoism and Judaism

but I promise what you wont find is High Priests of Min
Get right with God

Indra - Wikipedia

 

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you could say the same about Islam, Buddhism, Taoism and Judaism

but I promise what you wont find is High Priests of Min
Get right with God

Indra - Wikipedia

I meant in this country. Religion, in general, is losing its grip on younger generations however

 

[MMS]

I meant in this country. Religion, in general, is losing its grip on younger generations however

depends on the perspective you look at it in