Should successful black role models live in and serve the community in the hood?

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Nah. Security costs would be too high.
yes. and Security cost aren't too high... the police are a para military force in my neighborhood... it's madd safe right in the middle of da d.

plus we pay for security, shyt's not that much.

Regardless, THAT NOT the fukking point.

If you come from the hood, IMHO, you don't deserve to be successful then bounce - taking intellectual potential.. tax dollars, etc out of the core city. That's some selfish shyt... and some PUNK ASS shyt... like everyone in the a city is looking to rob/shoot you. Mostly thugs get popped... hardly anyone else.

I don't like the responses in this thread at all.
 

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yes. and Security cost aren't too high... the police are a para military force in my neighborhood... it's madd safe right in the middle of da d.

plus we pay for security, shyt's not that much.

Regardless, THAT NOT the fukking point.

If you come from the hood, IMHO, you don't deserve to be successful then bounce - taking intellectual potential.. tax dollars, etc out of the core city. That's some selfish shyt... and some PUNK ASS shyt... like everyone in the a city is looking to rob/shoot you. Mostly thugs get popped... hardly anyone else.

I don't like the responses in this thread at all.
:what: Name ONE predominantly BLACK area in the states where this type of thinking has been enacted and actually works. How can you say someone doesn't deserve to be successful and provide a better life for himself, children, etc? People give back all the time, but that doesn't mean they have to live there. And as far as mostly thugs gettin popped, come to Oakland and talk to the families of all those babies that were murdered between 2012-2013, old folks and bystanders. I understand where you are coming from but to say someone doesn't "deserve" to move somewhere safer is absurd. Let's be honest, Detroit, Camden, Oakland, St Louis, Little Rock, Memphis etc aren't the safest places. If I bust my butt on my job or college, etc to provide better for self or my family, where is the argument?
 

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:what: Name ONE predominantly BLACK area in the states where this type of thinking has been enacted and actually works. How can you say someone doesn't deserve to be successful and provide a better life for himself, children, etc? People give back all the time, but that doesn't mean they have to live there. And as far as mostly thugs gettin popped, come to Oakland and talk to the families of all those babies that were murdered between 2012-2013, old folks and bystanders.
better doesn't equal... running to some cheap sub. I moved to the sub as soon as i got money--- that shyt's wack... I moved back.

You don't have to live in the trap to live in the core city.

idk about oakland. but the majority of people round my way basically had it coming. I just had a 21 year old cuz shot... Nobody deserves it.. but some things come w the territory of what ur involved in.
 

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better doesn't equal... running to some cheap sub. I moved to the sub as soon as i got money--- that shyt's wack... I moved back.

You don't have to live in the trap to live in the core city.

idk about oakland. but the majority of people round my way basically had it coming. I just had a 21 year old cuz shot... Nobody deserves it.. but some things come w the territory of what ur involved in.
That's the thing, we have WOMEN and CHILDREN in these cities who need to see something different. The thinking of these people need to change big time. I remember a couple years ago man, it was this one brother who would cook food and ride around in his truck handing out plates to homeless people. A Good Samaritan. Why did this nicca get his cap peeled in front of his wife and kids IN the hood just trying to help? Give back man, but honestly these cities aren't safe.
 

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No I don't think so. I think successful black role models should run for office and improve their neighborhoods by attacking the two main problems of the black community. Guns and Drugs. It's wide open for new black leadership today since the old guard is essentially retiring.
 

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No I don't think so. I think successful black role models should run for office and improve their neighborhoods by attacking the two main problems of the black community. Guns and Drugs. It's wide open for new black leadership today since the old guard is essentially retiring.
I agree. There is more to black problems than looking for a handout from those who are successful. Truth be told, they don't owe anyone shyt. You couldn't PAY me to live in Oakland. But if a nicca ask me for some help with uplifting, and if he is serious, it's all good. But that "keepin it real" bull is for them revolutionary niccas. I haven't lived in Oakland in near 20years.
 

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I agree. There is more to black problems than looking for a handout from those who are successful. Truth be told, they don't owe anyone shyt. You couldn't PAY me to live in Oakland. But if a nicca ask me for some help with uplifting, and if he is serious, it's all good. But that "keepin it real" bull is for them revolutionary niccas. I haven't lived in Oakland in near 20years.

Those keepin it real types stay broke that's the problem. I'm with you on mentoring or giving advice, but every once in a while someone hits me up on some, "I'm starting a t-shirt business or I need money for my mixtape artwork". I did both once and never again. lol I'm more in to advice and guidance now. Especially for young brothas who are into international travel.
 

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Those keepin it real types stay broke that's the problem. I'm with you on mentoring or giving advice, but every once in a while someone hits me up on some, "I'm starting a t-shirt business or I need money for my mixtape artwork". I did both once and never again. lol I'm more in to advice and guidance now. Especially for young brothas who are into international travel.
The fathers of these children also man. These niccas sicken me. I don't understand how you can blame a "successful" black man who busted his @ss in college or his job to make moves and not call out the fathers who are absent or the ditzy chick who layed on her back to have mad kids. Make NO sense. Dude, If I ran for public office, I'd call out these niccas left and right.
 

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The fathers of these children also man. These niccas sicken me. I don't understand how you can blame a "successful" black man who busted his @ss in college or his job to make moves and not call out the fathers who are absent or the ditzy chick who layed on her back to have mad kids. Make NO sense. Dude, If I ran for public office, I'd call out these niccas left and right.

Hell yeah those nikkas ain't shyt! I don't even like talking to nikkas like that. You have a few responsibilities in life that you HAVE to take care of. And taking care of your kids is one of them. I don't have any remorse or help for sorry nikkas who abandon their kids and show up looking for help. And these sorry ass mommas...man, the thirst that comes from them is sickening. They think it is an accomplishment to have all them damn kids and no father in the home. We are supposed to support and be proud of these sistas...Man fukk all that. We need to be harder on these folks so they can BE better to these kids because life has passed them by. Focus on the next generation so they won't end up to be fukk ups like their parents. I would never get elected because I would be hurting people's feelings. "Oh you got a GED, so the fukk what! Why didn't you finish high school?"
 

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Are you fukking cac women and travel to France but not Africa? When was the last time you went back in Jamaica? Love your contradiction.
when you niccas talk to that mf like he's black. when you look at his flikr it reek's of a cac. the reality about his pictures is he went to europe to take pictures of cars. no "pawgs" he talks about here. taking pictures with a s95 like he's ballin.. smh

why you keep addressing frauds?
 

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Do you think poor communities would be best served with successful black role models coming back to the community to help uplift the area? Should successful blacks just focus on leaving the hood permanently. Should they habe a vacationer mindset, come to visit but live their life somewhere else?

Would this be a good idea? Would this be a complete waste of talent? Shoot off what you think. This is a discussion, dont hold your tongue and lets brainstorm.

NOTHING is off limits in this discussion, just be able to back up what you say if its out there.
successful black role models should come back to the community at least for inspiration for the next generation.
the black community needs all the help it can get from anyone.. at best from one of it's own. only these so called successful ppl can rally them up and prevent politicians from taking advantage of them.
 

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That's the thing, we have WOMEN and CHILDREN in these cities who need to see something different. The thinking of these people need to change big time. I remember a couple years ago man, it was this one brother who would cook food and ride around in his truck handing out plates to homeless people. A Good Samaritan. Why did this nicca get his cap peeled in front of his wife and kids IN the hood just trying to help? Give back man, but honestly these cities aren't safe.
yeah, but there usually are good spots within the city.

but I would have no problem if people left to get something better.... but didn't leave to run and never look back. You didn't do what people normally do, you didn't something different.

I don't like that, because some people are trapped their in their city and in their mind.
 
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