He did what he did. There is no taking that away. However, the way we tend to paint things should not only be in question it should be completely revamped. The Spurs were the ultimate team in 2014 and they ran through a gassed Heat team. Any of their top 4 could've won MVP. Kawhi just got extra props for holding Bron to 28 on 60% shooting. Last year he balled and was the guy. However, this year (and 1/4 of the season last year) clearly demonstrated how thorough that squad was around him. He didn't carry them anywhere. He played his part, like everyone else did. Winning is about circumstance and dependent on the performance of others no matter how great you are. There is also something to be said for pressure. Plenty of guys can perform when no one cares whether you win or lose or if that heat isn't gonna fall on you. It takes a truly special player to deliver when all eyes are on you and it's win or bust. That's GOAT shyt, not being fortunate enough to be on the right team in the right situation.
Should Kawhi Leonard’s 2 finals Wins be in question now?
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It was written in the Bible
2014 Spurs was the most beautiful basketball ever played
No shyt Sherlock.
I’m talking about the perception and how everyone views that seriespeople(general public/basketball fans) talk about 2 things when they discuss 2014
1. Lebron leaving
2. Kawhis FMVP.
because of this. The perception on how kawhi won it gets skewed and don’t tell me people don’t act like he was averaging 28PPG that series
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2014 Spurs was the most beautiful basketball ever played
Jokic is low key looking like Duncan with the passes
I mean they played like 2 or 3 series to 7 games though
Even though Kevin barely played
Even though Klay didn’t play
The Raptors made it to The Finals
The Raptors never made it to The Finals
Kawhi has a bad series after having a great series which he finished in spectacular TD Garden Tatum before the All Star game fashion
Posted the best individual numbers of his career. He’s not the athlete he was but he’ll be ok
Where a lot of the talk stems from is since we haven’t seen a player like him before nobody knows what to do with him. He went from one thing when he started with one set of expectations on him to something way different
Bron was expected to be Bron
Kevin was expected to be Kevin
Kawhi was expected to be Gerald Wilkins
Devil Plisken…CMS
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I’m being sarcastic
At the age peg leg at tho it shouldn’t be happening. In basketball terms, he’s the ultra rich kid with the trust fund that finds out the world don’t work for him.....
Sounds like a guy that got spoiled and fr couldn’t carry the load. All that flaugin on exemplary, model franchise but once he goes to the crackhouse franchise he finds out shyt ain’t sweet in the NBA like he thought...
THE MACHINE
night owl
Nah, his rep is legit
2014 everyone says "the MVP could have gone to anyone", so how can you take that away. Its not like he didnt deserve it, its just that others played well too. No problem with that fMVP
2019 he had an incredible run. Its not his fault KD and Klay got hurt, he earned his fMVP
2x dpoy he earned those
2020 is an epic choke job but his status as top 3-5 player in the league is deserved
2014 everyone says "the MVP could have gone to anyone", so how can you take that away. Its not like he didnt deserve it, its just that others played well too. No problem with that fMVP
2019 he had an incredible run. Its not his fault KD and Klay got hurt, he earned his fMVP
2x dpoy he earned those
2020 is an epic choke job but his status as top 3-5 player in the league is deserved
LeBron
Curry/KD (assuming at least 1 will be 100% next year)
Giannis
AD
Jokic
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THE MACHINE
night owl
Im taking Kawhi over Jokic and Giannis
Giannis is the league MVP and Jokic literally just sonned Kawhi lmao you’re a clown
The Finals wins themselves? No.
14 he wasn't the best Spur and got the "I Made LeBron Work" award (like Iggy). Parker could've gotten it.
I've said on here before in '19 the shot against the Sixers is never being duplicated (damn near Helmet Catch level) and without it we're looking at this man a whole different way and this is basically the delayed energy. But it went in, and while his teammates stepped up when he didn't look so dominant, he deserved the 19 FMVP.
14 he wasn't the best Spur and got the "I Made LeBron Work" award (like Iggy). Parker could've gotten it.
I've said on here before in '19 the shot against the Sixers is never being duplicated (damn near Helmet Catch level) and without it we're looking at this man a whole different way and this is basically the delayed energy. But it went in, and while his teammates stepped up when he didn't look so dominant, he deserved the 19 FMVP.
THE MACHINE
night owl
Jokic beat him in 1 series whoopdedoo
Im still taking Kawhi's resume over his in the playoffs despite this choke jobGiannis does not have a playoff basketball repertoire. He is a downhill runner that cant score against a zone. You have got to be kidding me with this.