Should boys start school a year later than girls because of developmental differences?

[Blackrogue]

In an ideal world kids don’t go to school they learn and work from their communities.

School is kinda overpriced. They should start using AI, and other devices to teach.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Education starts at home and fails at home.

This slower development thing is not uniform amongst all males. NO

Went to boy schools all my life

Downside no girls. But we had a brotherhood thing and went to war at sports and had an awesome upbringing.. High school was more academically competitive

Jesus Christ...

Meanwhile I was in Nairobi schools never without a girl since 4th grade till I graduated. Only went to a all boys school for 1 semester.

 

[Uitomy]

This method sounds stifling and kinda cultish. Children need opportunities to develop outside of parents and families. I understand the need for protection, it just sounds like alot.

Look at it from this aspect, that’s how most tribal communities work, and we know those are the people most attuned with nature. They’ll be able to experience the outside world but I just personally don’t believe in sending my child off to be supervised by other people for a quarter of the day, 5 days a week, 9 months a year, for their entire youth. Most kids would rather be with their parents and learn at home and then go play with their friends outside. School is a chore for everybody these days unless you have the money to send them to a private institution that goes above and beyond.

 

[Caca-faat]

What needs to end is the idea that boys are so much "easier" to raise, deal with or rear than girls.

Young men and boys are often left to fend for themselves because of the myth that they'll eventually figure things out on their own "as nature intended" meanwhile women and girls allegedly need constant instruction on how to be women, wives and mothers.......

Young boys are both under and OVER estimated in their capabilities because society is hyper focused on female chastity, virginity and subservience. Kill that mindset and start recognizing boys as unique individuals who also require guidance and watch how quickly society improves.

I think this may be to do with girls being more emotionally manipulative from early. Boys are pretty cut and dry as kids and their emotions are a lot more straightforward to navigate in my experience. Whereas girls have a myriad of reasons why they are crying from very early.

It’s also evident that boys pride is important to them from before they even know what it is.

 

[Caca-faat]

Look at it from this aspect, that’s how most tribal communities work, and we know those are the people most attuned with nature. They’ll be able to experience the outside world but I just personally don’t believe in sending my child off to be supervised by other people for a quarter of the day, 5 days a week, 9 months a year, for their entire youth. Most kids would rather be with their parents and learn at home and then go play with their friends outside. School is a chore for everybody these days unless you have the money to send them to a private institution that goes above and beyond.

I can agree but this methodology is incredibly restrictive and takes a lot of supervision that many don’t have the time for. This also only gives your child your view on the world, which may be limited in one way or the other. This doesn’t allow them to see the world as a whole.

 

[Caca-faat]

Boys and girls shouldn't even be attending school together at all, how bout that

That is an option broken down in the OP with various reasons as well as an option on the poll.

 

[Piff Perkins]

That's a good video however I don't think you can do that in the US. A good alternative would be something that's also mentioned in the video: a return of vocational classes to schools. Shop class, robotics, etc. I'd love to see small businesses receive tax incentives to offer demonstrations at schools for things like plumbing, construction, manufacturing, etc. None of this would be restricted to girls, but we know that boys would gravitate to these things more than girls. If you stimulate that part of the male brain it'll be easier for them to also apply themselves in more traditional classes like math, English, etc too.

There should also be specific financial incentives to increase the amount of male teachers in America. Teachers already receive various tax incentives from the government, but I'd expand those for male teachers. Not just in classrooms but for men who are studying to become teachers, they should receive tuition help.

 

[xCivicx]

Public schools are heavily feminized and reward herd behavior







There is no developmental discrepancy between boys and girls. There's just shytty curriculum/teaching standards

 

[Mook]

I went to normal schools. Had one of the top gpas in my class. Could have skipped a grade or two in elementary if I wanted to. Graduated college in four years. I've often been told my handwriting (especially cursive) can be mistaken for a woman's because it's so neat.

and I'm not the most intelligent dude on the planet. The reason boys have worse handwriting than girls and some struggle in school is because teachers and parents do not hold them accountable. This rhetoric that girls are more mature and smart has been said in classrooms since I was growing up (sometimes directly to me...how demoralizing to a young child is that?), and that influences how people treat students. There were teachers who frankly didn't give af if the boys in the class were articulate or not, and focused their efforts on mentoring the girls.

My parents believed in the belt. I got a 60 on my first spelling test and finished top of class from that point on. 100 after 100 after 100. Academics were just as important as sports in my household and it reflected in my track record.

Girls also are less inclined to break rules. Boys would cause more problems by default.

 

[FromStLouis]

Sounds like some covert bullshyt going on. There's a shortage of teachers and maybe this how they plan to shrink class sizes? Boys already lead the gender ratio of births. (105 to 100)

What about studies that say the school day itself starts too early? Or the studies that show that recess leads to better focus and information retention?

Why is this the silver bullet?

 

[Volt]

In an ideal world kids don’t go to school they learn and work from their communities.

Middle ages babble.

After so many of these kids I've taught, it looks like some boys and girl equally act like they got developmental delays in their prefrontal cortex

N if this staggered approach was inplemented, you know some households would be heated cuz that first year boys gonna be like at his sister cuz she gotta hit the books and he gets to catch up with his cartoons

NGL, college was a massive disappointment for me.

They're completely out of touch. The first time I stepped into a classroom as a teacher, I couldn't remember a single thing I had learned in college that would be remotely useful for me.

A lot of issues people have with school, especially when it comes to high school, are tied to a single question "Why tf do I have to learn this?"

That's what causes people to say things like what Lamelo said.

 

[Caca-faat]

That's a good video however I don't think you can do that in the US. A good alternative would be something that's also mentioned in the video: a return of vocational classes to schools. Shop class, robotics, etc. I'd love to see small businesses receive tax incentives to offer demonstrations at schools for things like plumbing, construction, manufacturing, etc. None of this would be restricted to girls, but we know that boys would gravitate to these things more than girls. If you stimulate that part of the male brain it'll be easier for them to also apply themselves in more traditional classes like math, English, etc too.

There should also be specific financial incentives to increase the amount of male teachers in America. Teachers already receive various tax incentives from the government, but I'd expand those for male teachers. Not just in classrooms but for men who are studying to become teachers, they should receive tuition help.

These are all really good ideas, and they will have to be linked, robotics linked with math and engineering for example.

 

[Pure Water]

Look at it from this aspect, that’s how most tribal communities work, and we know those are the people most attuned with nature. They’ll be able to experience the outside world but I just personally don’t believe in sending my child off to be supervised by other people for a quarter of the day, 5 days a week, 9 months a year, for their entire youth. Most kids would rather be with their parents and learn at home and then go play with their friends outside. School is a chore for everybody these days unless you have the money to send them to a private institution that goes above and beyond.

Most tribal communities are ass backwards, respectfully. Also the only kids who want to be under their parents all day are socially inept kids, who ironically need to be in school in the first place. Now maybe they need to go to a private school with smaller classes. But a home school style teaching makes kids weird.

 

[Uitomy]

I can agree but this methodology is incredibly restrictive and takes a lot of supervision that many don’t have the time for. This also only gives your child your view on the world, which may be limited in one way or the other. This doesn’t allow them to see the world as a whole.

That’s where I would disagree, because I’m not the kind of parent that would not show their child what the world is made of and the reality of it. I’m open minded and constantly expand my skill output and world view, I’m confident I can pass those traits on to my child and trust they will be productive in society, but I agree with your view in general because I’ve come to understand many parents in this country are not very open minded and tend to close their kids worldview because like you said many don’t have the time for that kind of supervision, but that’s the direct result of our government invading our personal autonomy.

 

[Uitomy]

Most tribal communities are ass backwards, respectfully. Also the only kids who want to be under their parents all day are socially inept kids, who ironically need to be in school in the first place. Now maybe they need to go to a private school with smaller classes. But a home school style teaching makes kids weird.

You may say their ass backwards but they seem pretty content with their lives if they have little contact with the trappings of our modern world function and view, but I made my point based on how I’d personally raise my own kids, I hated every school I went to but one and I absolutely hated being away from my family, I thoroughly enjoyed learning at home because I didn’t care to socialize in a school setting, I had a much more enjoyable time at camps than I did school, but that’s just me