Should a person making food at McDonalds be able to afford rent and groceries with their paycheck?

[Wild self]

Fast food could go away and America would get healthier. Stop acting like its loss would destroy society

Apply the logic to Wal Mart, America's LARGEST EMPLOYER, and other low wage chain stores, you think that people don't deserve a living wage?

 

[Traveler]

Put massive regulations on them and put PRICE CAPS on their properties.

Then the business goes away cause it's not profitable. Business is out to make money not take care of people.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

People who are working part time to supplement their salaries or people in retirement who need a few extra dollars or who want to still interact with people.

But any upwardly mobile adult shouldn’t be working here outside of managerial roles.

everyone isn't upwardly mobile, so what is that segment of people supposed to do? it's now harder than ever to change socioeconomic class, you're living in white america's 60's with the bootstrap mindset

Socioeconomic status in the U.S. harder to change than any time in past 150 years | Penn Today

Research from Penn sociologist Xi Song and colleagues shows that mobility declined substantially during this period, particularly for those born in the 1940s and later.

penntoday.upenn.edu

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

They trying to make a honest living.. why the fukk not?

Funny thing is alot of Nikkas love to talk call people out and talk that right Wing and MAGA shyt but steady using their view points on their outlook of Economics and people whom they feel they better than now because they got a lucky break

Bingo. Hypocrites. Their ways of thinkin' often aligns with da same people that they claim to despise where it regards right wingers.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Cap.

A 4 for $4 is way cheaper.

Pull up any menu.

You cannot eat like a king for 8-12 at a Mexican restaurant.

you can spend $10-13 on a fast food meal out here (oakland) - literally all the fast food spots cost $10+ for a combo, we'd all agree that's one meal

or you can spend $16 for a super burrito at a taqueria (a little less at a taco truck since they don't have as high rent to pay) and for the average woman, get 2-3 meals out of it, and for the avg dude, ~2 meals

 

[Wild self]

Then the business goes away cause it's not profitable. Business is out to make money not take care of people.

How does that hurt? Having MORE disposable income to use in those businesses?

 

[O.Red]

Fast food could go away and America would get healthier. Stop acting like its loss would destroy society

I'm not only talking about fast food. Americans have the same condescending feelings towards retail employees too

 

[O.Red]

Cap.

A 4 for $4 is way cheaper.

Pull up any menu.

You cannot eat like a king for 8-12 at a Mexican restaurant.

And 4 for 4 is not a "meal" in the traditional fast food sense

And I don't know where y'all live but in Texas $10-12 will get you more food than you can eat in one sitting at a Mexican restaurant or truck

Vietnamese, Thai, Jamaican, whatever. If you gotta spend $20-30 to feed yourself in these places you as hell. Even at a chain like Chili's you can eat a full meal for around $15, so what's the point of getting a $12 #3 at Wendy's?

 

[O.Red]

People who are working part time to supplement their salaries or people in retirement who need a few extra dollars or who want to still interact with people.

But any upwardly mobile adult shouldn’t be working here outside of managerial roles.

This type of blanket terminology is the problem

Everybody ain't upwardly mobile. That ain't how societies work. That ain't how humans work

Y'all speak from this perspective where everyone is supposed to be extremely ambitious and a mega hustler and that shyt is fantasy. A society can't sustain everyone trying to be a certs/degrees God. There ain't enough demand for the type of work certain skills provide. Hell we've just seen tech sector realize how bloated they are as they continue firing nikkas by the thousands. We only need but so many engineers and HVAC specialists

But right now and for the foreseeable future, we need nikkas to load and unload these trucks, we need nikkas to flip the burgers and tell you what aisle the super glue is on. That Amazon package you got in 2 days didn't pack and ship itself. But y'all take every opportunity to remind those people that you barely consider them people in the first place. Again we NEED these people but that's hard to admit when you get off on feeling above nikkas

The rhetoric y'all use is adjacent to welfare queen, begging for handouts arguments being applied to some of the hardest working people.

And nobody's even saying a full time fast food employee should be buying BMWs. But they shouldn't be able to afford a home and groceries? just fukk em huh

 

[NatiboyB]

everyone isn't upwardly mobile, so what is that segment of people supposed to do? it's now harder than ever to change socioeconomic class, you're living in white america's 60's with the bootstrap mindset

Socioeconomic status in the U.S. harder to change than any time in past 150 years | Penn Today

Research from Penn sociologist Xi Song and colleagues shows that mobility declined substantially during this period, particularly for those born in the 1940s and later.

penntoday.upenn.edu

If a person doesn’t possess these qualities which clearly has levels involved do they even deserve more than a few dollars? I’m not referencing people with special needs or anything. I’m talking about a person who is considered “normal/average”. Clearly it’s multiple levels to upward mobility. But if I can’t rely on you to do basic task you aren’t upwardly mobile and in all honesty why should you be compensated greatly for doing a job? It’s a cold world. You do have to pull yourself up.

Outside of those with special needs I’d be hard pressed to find anyone I’ve ever worked with who wasn’t upwardly mobile. Kids are upwardly mobile they work a job and eventually at least strive to get a promotion.

upward mobility​

noun​

: the capacity or facility for rising to a higher social or economic position

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

If a person doesn’t possess these qualities which clearly has levels involved do they even deserve more than a few dollars? I’m not referencing people with special needs or anything. I’m talking about a person who is considered “normal/average”. Clearly it’s multiple levels to upward mobility. But if I can’t rely on you to do basic task you aren’t upwardly mobile and in all honesty why should you be compensated greatly for doing a job? It’s a cold world. You do have to pull yourself up.

upward mobility​

noun​

: the capacity or facility for rising to a higher social or economic position

the minimum comp should be enough to survive, so yes, they deserve more if the minimum makes it impossible to survive. upwardly mobile means more than bare minimum survival, comp should increase for those who want to work harder to have disposable income or live in bigger better housing, and have an upwardly mobile life.

i'm not even sure what you're talking about on not being able to rely on someone to do a basic task....sure, if the person isn't showing up to work, they can kick rocks.

lastly, not all min wage jobs are flipping burgers or putting clothes back on a rack. EMTs make damn near min wage and these are the people who are the first responders that we count on to ensure people don't die on their way to the hospital...but they shouldn't be "compensated greatly"

 

[NatiboyB]

the minimum comp should be enough to survive, so yes, they deserve more if the minimum makes it impossible to survive. upwardly mobile means more than bare minimum survival, comp should increase for those who want to work harder to have disposable income or live in bigger better housing, and have an upwardly mobile life.

i'm not even sure what you're talking about on not being able to rely on someone to do a basic task....sure, if the person isn't showing up to work, they can kick rocks.

lastly, not all min wage jobs are flipping burgers or putting clothes back on a rack. EMTs make damn near min wage and these are the people who are the first responders that we count on to ensure people don't die on their way to the hospital...but they shouldn't be "compensated greatly"

I ageee on EMTs and first responders I’ve only see them paid a low amount when it was a small locality or they were very jr. But that’s dependent on where they are same as most county jobs. The bottom line is this. You get What you earn. Do what you need to do. And no they shouldn’t be greatly compensated unless they earn it. if they aren’t being paid the wage they want find another position and I’m not a 6 cert type.

 

[Knuckles Red]

We should be paid to live. We shouldn't be living to pay.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I ageee on EMTs and first responders I’ve only see them paid a low amount when it was a small locality or they were very jr. But that’s dependent on where they are same as most county jobs. The bottom line is this. You get What you earn. Do what you need to do. And no they shouldn’t be greatly compensated unless they earn it. if they aren’t being paid the wage they want find another position and I’m not a 6 cert type.

a lot of people did what they need to do and are still underpaid - see the genertion of college students with crippling debt for jobs that don't pya enough to cover the degree they demand people to have.

america is not set up for everyone to live at the middle class and above. every single person in america could all get the same credentials and there would still be stratification, we all wouldn't get the same pay despite having "done what we need to". the minimum wage should be able to cover the basics of living, so yes, min wage workers deserve more because their basics are not covered and our taxes are being wasted making up the difference that their employers should be paying. i really don't get how yall are so warped in the mind to think mcd's shouldn't have to pay enough for someone to afford a studio/room, groceries ad health care, but your tax dollars should

whooo...america will never have nice things, even people near the bottom think they don't deserve better

 

[Will Ross]

Again

Who's working these teenage jobs when the teenagers are at school? Who's opening? Who's working overnight?

The 18-24 yr Old that are in school or have no skill