SHO Championship Boxing returns to StubHub – 8/16: Porter-Brook: The Official Fight Card thread

[Skip b]

The quickest way to Floyd for Brook is a match with Khan I believe.

Khan is old news.........................He aint doing nothing but sitting on the shelf talking, he can happen anytime



A Thurman win is the true path, if he take Thurmans WBA belt he becomes Floyds mandatory..............



at Khan constantly get cut out of the Floyd sweepstakes............................

 

[surv2syn]

Porter will get better, now he knows he simply can't bully WW because he was a SMW, you actually have to punch to win fights, and he have a good lil punch he can recover......................


He beats, Khan and Thurman, he may even beat Brook in a rematch. He loses to Lucas, gets scalped by Swift, and gets a brutal beating by Floyd. I fear for Porter that they may freeze him out the fights because of risk reward and style......



Oh and you slipping breh if you think Khan beats Brook, he too tehnically sharp for those wild slaps, he'll shoot stiff lasers up the middle in the midst of his predictable left right lefts, plus we showed he couldn't be bullied by a dirty brusier in Porter, he have no worries of Khans holding and pushing................

I think Brook can easily be outworked and I know speed will give him fits. Thats why I think Khan can get him. Plus Khan can pop too so would keep Brook honest. Brook relies too much on his technical ability. Ironically, he mentioned Honeyghan last night. Brook fights more like Curry than Honeyghan. Very precise and measured. I think a Honeyghan like fighter will do to Brook what Honeyghan did to Curry. I am happy for Brook though, Porter got his shine, now Brook has his. It all makes for a more interesting WW division.

 

[surv2syn]

Khan is old news.........................He aint doing nothing but sitting on the shelf talking, he can happen anytime



A Thurman win is the true path, if he take Thurmans WBA belt he becomes Floyds mandatory..............



at Khan constantly get cut out of the Floyd sweepstakes............................

I like Thurman over Brook. Thurman, although raw.... is getting better with each fight. I wouldnt sleep on Khan, that fight makes dollars and sense for Brook.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

I agree with this completely. Porter, and a lot of these kids are raw. He is only 25. He is a pretty good fighter, his skills just arent sharp enough and he doesnt really have the necessary experience to be considered a REAL champion. Neither does Brook really. Brook is ok, but not "special". I always had that view about him....but he is a fighter that cruises. I'd definitely favor Khan over Brook, yet I'd favor Porter over Khan. All of these guys are at the same level. After Floyd, its pretty much parity. In some ways, Porter fights like Aaron Pryor, but obviously not as skilled. Porter fans, dont give up. He seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. If he continues to work and improve he can be in the game a long time and come back stronger. At this point he really just has a lot of room to grow.

Funny you mentioned Pryor breh...

That's exactly what I told my boy I was watching the fight with last night...

The kid has the same motor, he just keeps coming forward throwing those hands trying to overwhelm you...If I was Porters trainer I'd pop in some tapes of the hawk and have Porter watch his footwork...Porter tries to mimic Tyson with the bob and weave straight forward approach which is stupid imo because he doesn't have Tyson's god given ability to lay nikkas out...If he focuses more on his footwork and develops a little more lateral movement like the hawk had where he'd bounce around left/right, in/out Porter would be a much harder fighter to time with straight punches...

 

[MIAlien]

The quickest way to Floyd for Brook is a match with Khan I believe.

I disagree. Beating Khan alone won't help enough. I also don't think Khan deserves the fight, and Brook wouldn't get much credit for it.

I think beating Marquez would be a much better way to get to Floyd. So would Thurman. I'd take Marquez for the payday and the path it creates to Floyd or Pac.

 

[surv2syn]

nikka do you read your posts before you hit reply?

Since when has Floyd ever shown an inability to keep his poise in the ring with a flawed wild pressure fighter like Porter? Did you even watch the Maidana fight? You honestly think this lil nikka is going to have one of the most poised defensively sound counter punchers in the history of the sport shook?


Do not ever tag me again if you're going to post dumb shyt like this b...

he just had to throw that Floyd shyt in there breh. Floyd is going to have a much easier time with Maidana this time around since he knows it aint gonna be no trilogy. just shut nikkas mouths who were thinking Maidana would be a real threat. then maybe @Newzz boy can right his ship.

 

[surv2syn]

Funny you mentioned Pryor breh...

That's exactly what I told my boy I was watching the fight with last night...

The kid has the same motor, he just keeps coming forward throwing those hands trying to overwhelm you...If I was Porters trainer I'd pop in some tapes of the hawk and have Porter watch his footwork...Porter tries to mimic Tyson with the bob and weave straight forward approach which is stupid imo because he doesn't have that one punch KO ability...If he focuses more on his footwork and develops a little more lateral movement like the hawk had where he'd bounce around left/right, in/out Porter would be a much harder fighter to time with straight punches...

he doesnt really have a good signature punch. he needs to develop the straight right down the middle. that will help him get in. he also needs to improve his inside game. he smothers his punches. he needs to take notes from Lamont Peterson. Peterson is a really good inside fighter and body puncher, shame he doesnt have much pop though.

 

[surv2syn]

I disagree. Beating Khan alone won't help enough. I also don't think Khan deserves the fight, and Brook wouldn't get much credit for it.

I think beating Marquez would be a much better way to get to Floyd. So would Thurman. I'd take Marquez for the payday and the path it creates to Floyd or Pac.

I agree somewhat. Khan alone wont do it but that win and another good one after would. I mention Khan because it seems like that fight makes the most sense and would be the easiest to make. As a matter of fact, I bet they are already fielding offers for a Dec matchup. Its a winnable fight that both would get paid handsomely for. How easy is it to make a JMM fight? Thurman fight no where near the money of a Khan fight in the UK.

The ONLY thing I see harpooning a Khan fight is the negotiating table. Brook gonna say he is undefeated and got the belt that Khan was supposed to fight for, Khan gonna say he is still the bigger draw and nobody outside the UK dont know who Brook is still.

 

[Black_Jesus]

nikka do you read your posts before you hit reply?

Since when has Floyd ever shown an inability to keep his poise in the ring with a flawed wild pressure fighter like Porter? Did you even watch the Maidana fight? You honestly think this lil nikka is going to have one of the most poised defensively sound counter punchers in the history of the sport shook?


Do not ever tag me again if you're going to post dumb shyt like this b...

Your reading comprehension is pisspoor
"Not even Floyd" meaning Floyd is very poised and focused, but no matter how much of his composure he's able to maintain, Porter would give him huge problems and I believe Floyd could be stopped by him.. Yes I watched the Floyd/Maidana fight you dumbass.. Maidana sucks, but was able to give Floyd huge problems especially in the first half.. Porter, while similar, is a much better version of Maidana stylewise in my opinion.. and unlike Brook, I dont believe Floyd at this stage of his career would be able to handle Porter's style... And one of the main reasons is that Floyds punching power is severely lacking..

 

[Ari Gold Bawse]

ive always thought Brook would beat Khan, Brooks power is maybe still a bit underrated, Porter has a solid chin and took some nice right hands.

I dont see Khans chin standing up to those right hands for 12 rounds, also Brook is great with distance and has a better jab than Khan

 

[MIAlien]

I agree somewhat. Khan alone wont do it but that win and another good one after would. I mention Khan because it seems like that fight makes the most sense and would be the easiest to make. As a matter of fact, I bet they are already fielding offers for a Dec matchup. Its a winnable fight that both would get paid handsomely for. How easy is it to make a JMM fight? Thurman fight no where near the money of a Khan fight in the UK.

The ONLY thing I see harpooning a Khan fight is the negotiating table. Brook gonna say he is undefeated and got the belt that Khan was supposed to fight for, Khan gonna say he is still the bigger draw and nobody outside the UK dont know who Brook is still.

I'd never disagree about the $ side of a Khan/Brook fight making total sense. And if they draw a huge crowd, it'll make big names want to go to the UK to fight him, not just have to go to get the belt. And maybe it means something for Brook's legacy in the UK. But it means almost nothing if he wants to fight Floyd, and means very little if he wants to be the best or fight the best. A win over JMM wouldn't make him more $ or be as big in the UK, but it would be a huge resume booster and automatically put him near the top of the Floyd short list. It would also make him a lot of money too.

That Brook/Khan fight will always be there too.

That said, if Marquez only wants to fight in Mexico, it won't happen. And in that case, I'd take the Khan fight just to show US fighters that huge crowd turnout the UK fight fans will bring.

 

[Newzz]

he just had to throw that Floyd shyt in there breh. Floyd is going to have a much easier time with Maidana this time around since he knows it aint gonna be no trilogy. just shut nikkas mouths who were thinking Maidana would be a real threat. then maybe @Newzz boy can right his ship.

What do I have to do with yalls convo?


Floyd cant do anything by fighting Maidana in 10oz, non MX or Reyes gloves. This fight coming up is a parody.


Beat a power puncher by making him wear Hulk gloves AND let his fans give you full credit brehs

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Finally got a chance to post again in this thread. Thoughts on the card last night.

- Linares looks like he could campaign at 140 or 147. That nikka looked as big as Crawford in there.

- Wilder is open for the pull counter right hand, Gavern had that shot open for him the times he slipped the jab and right cross. If he was in shape he prolly could have been more competitive. Stiverne will definitely see that opening though

- Figueroa's defense needs more polishing, but his offense is crazy. He seemed to cut the ring off a lil better against Estrada, but then again his last opponent was moving a lot more.

- Dirrell showed that he could box and stick to a game plan for 12 rounds. He still gets riled up with that mean streak of his and it really showed early, but he kinda settled down later. He was rocking and hurting Bika with just about every other shot he threw. I can't remember seeing Bika getting tagged so consistently clean. Ref earned his check and did a better job in a much rougher fight than Vic did with Rios and Chaves.

- Porter/Brook was an ugly fight and I felt it could have gone either way. Porter controlled most of the first half and Brook took over in the 2nd half. Neither really impressed me. For as bad as Porter looked with his wild reckless flailing, I thought Brook would have made him pay a lot more for that shyt. It seemed like he was just punching at the target instead of through it. He still out-boxed dude and landed some clean shots, but he still got bullied way too much for my taste. He needed to step to Porter with hard shots more consistently instead of always getting backed up all over the damn ring. Porter closes the distance good, but once he does that he smothers his work. His dad was right, that he should have used more angles when he got in close instead of staying right in front of him. He had openings and positions that he didn't capitalize on.

- I think Thurman beats Porter and Brook. Both them nikkas kinda neutralized each other to a point. Porter's pressure swarming didn't allow Brook to really sit on his shots as much as he normally does.

 

[Axum Ezana]

shyt now nikkas know how skilled/fast puncher Tyson was before gus died.....you can't just replace greats like that.

with that said I still like porter and that nikka learned the hard way that he can not bully his way to victories against all opponents.

im tired of this floyd $weepstakes cause I don't really see anyone that is a threat to him.....sorry. he will retire at 50-0....boring.

 

[HARLEM AL]

I mean if brook beat Kahn he should get a Floyd fight. He just beat porter, why not?

He deserve a fight over everybody not named pacq at 147.