Sherdog Opinion article: Did Conor McGregor Just Become Adrien Broner?

[Reggie]

Receipts?

These two eye of mine that clearly could see that Broner was overrated is the only receipt I need.

 

[firemanBk]

Andreas Hale is a fool...I hate all her articles for RING Magazine

Its a horrible comparison imo. Again, Broner was 27-0, a 3x Champion over 3 divisions, had already beaten 6 RING Top 10 Opponents in his division including 2 who were Champions in the division at the time, beat 3 current/former Champions overall, and didn't lose until his 2nd fight at a division (17lbs higher than the weight he debuted at) against a naturally much larger fighter who happens to be the same fighter who gave Floyd his 2nd toughest fight ever.

McGregor on the other hand already had 2 losses in 21 fights and lost to a guy who only had 11 days notice beforehand.

It's a disrespectful comparison to me

The comparison really wasn't in relation to their accomplishments. More so that they were pegged as the next big stars in the sport and failed. I don't even think it's that good a comparison though. McGregor already got to where Broner wanted to be in terms of his drawing power. He's one of the biggest PPV draws in any sport and his last 3 fights are the biggest Vegas gates the UFC has ever done. I think he will take a hit with the loss but it won't be too bad. People tune in to McGregor because he's a character. The fighting is secondary. It's critical he doesn't lose 2 in a row though, which I'm pretty certain he will if he fights Frankie Edgar

 

[Newzz]

The comparison really wasn't in relation to their accomplishments. More so that they were pegged as the next big stars in the sport and failed. I don't even think it's that good a comparison though. McGregor already got to where Broner wanted to be in terms of his drawing power. He's one of the biggest PPV draws in any sport and his last 3 fights are the biggest Vegas gates the UFC has ever done. I think he will take a hit with the loss but it won't be too bad. People tune in to McGregor because he's a character. The fighting is secondary. It's critical he doesn't lose 2 in a row though, which I'm pretty certain he will if he fights Frankie Edgar

Broner has done more in his sport than McGregor has done in his. If they both retire today, AB will retire as the youngest person to ever win 4 Championships in 4 Different Divisions...McGregor hasn't done anything yet is what Im being led to believe. That's why it's a bad comparision to me.




Also, she compared Nate Diaz to Marcos Maidana, when Maidana had a full training camp, had only 3 losses in 37 career fights & was a former Champion while Diaz came into the fight with 10 losses in 28 career fights, never had been a Champion, and only had 11 days notice




She is a Boxing writer for RING Magazine. She KNOWS this already, but yet she still wrote a horrible article for MMA heads to read.

 

[Another Man]

Here is what his trainer who knows more than most has to say

Conditioning coach: Nate Diaz was basically coming off couch for Conor McGregor


By Steven Marrocco March 8, 2016 4:15 pm

When Nate Diaz told UFC President Dana White he was in shape for a short-notice fight with Conor McGregor at UFC 196, he was mostly being truthful.

When he said he was training for a triathlon, that wasn’t technically a lie. Diaz is always active in some way or another.

Just three months ago, the UFC veteran had put in a solid training camp for a pivotal fight with Michael Johnson at UFC on FOX 17, and the benefits of his hard work were still present.

It just so happened that wasn’t the full story. An Instagram post today on Diaz’s official account told the more truthful one about his readiness for this past Saturday’s UFC 196.

According to a video posted by the now-victorious welterweight, he was shooting tequila on a yacht in Cabo San Lucas, “gettin my chillax on wit my dudes … before I got the call.”

“But #alwaysreadyforwar in season or not,” Diaz added.

The way Diaz’s longtime conditioning coach describes the situation, there was a good foundation to build on. It just wasn’t the most ideal one for taking a pay-per-view headliner opposite Conor McGregor.

But it’s nothing new for the brothers Nick and Nate, said Damian Gonzalez, a pro triathlete who’s worked with Team Diaz going on six years alongside Cesar Gracie, Richard Perez, Victor Galdon and Val Ignatov.

Unsurprisingly, Gonzalez shares the Diaz’s dissatisfaction – politely put – over how they’ve been treated thus far in the UFC, and a general suspicion of the promotion’s intentions in how and when it puts together fights with the brothers from Stockton, Calif.

“I feel they get sold short,” Gonzalez said. “They don’t get paid as much as they should. They use them to make money and then don’t break them off.”

Gonzalez also holds the hope that things might change now that Nate Diaz (19-10 MMA, 14-8 UFC) has upset one of the UFC’s biggest stars in spectacular fashion. When the 30-year-old veteran submitted McGregor (19-3 MMA, 7-1 UFC) via rear-naked choke at this past Saturday’s pay-per-view event, he may have earned himself a bigger seat at the negotiation table. And perhaps, a yacht of his own.

“I think now, things are going to change,” Gonzalez said. “Now, I think they’ll treat these guys equally.”

But until the tide started to turn around for Diaz in the second frame, and the weight of McGregor’s aspirations left him gasping for air, it was a gamble built on a slight bluff. The Diaz brothers have always been known as tough and durable. But if a white lie needed to be told to get an amazing opportunity, so be it.

Triathlon training? Sure, that works.

“I think that he told Dana that really just to put them at ease, like, ‘Yeah, we’re in shape,’” Gonzalez said. “He can’t tell Dana, ‘I’m sitting here on the beach having a cocktail.’ You just can’t say that.

“So you can look at it that way – he needs to recover from his last fight so he can start training again and triathlon season is coming. So technically, yeah, but not exactly the way everybody spun it.”

When Gonzalez got a call from Diaz 10 days from the fight, on Feb. 24, he immediately invited Diaz to a local track to test his conditioning.

“I was worried,” he said. “He was worried. Everybody was concerned about his conditioning, especially the people around him.”

Gonzalez felt better when Diaz notched solid times in 400-meter runs. Then the work began to get him into as good shape as possible by March 5, the date for UFC 196 at Las Vegas’ MGM Grand Garden Arena.

“He was going to cram in a lot of work in short time, but he needed to recover from it,” Gonzalez said. “Basically what we were doing was shorter workouts, but a lot of workouts throughout the day, doing short duration.

“But the volume was pretty high, with a lot of intensity and a lot of recovery. They can’t take any illegal supplements; they’re not really into all that stuff, so basically, it’s just, when you’re not working out, you’re recovering.”

Gonzalez is short on specifics of what Diaz did to get himself ready for McGregor, who reportedly green-lit a welterweight bout when Diaz asked for a 165-pound catchweight fight. Not wanting to give away Diaz’s secrets, he did back the fighter’s post-bout claim that the plan was to hang back and let the Irish featherweight champ wear himself out.

“Conor is super explosive, and so for Nate, it was not necessarily his usual game plan of pressing the action,” Gonzalez said. “Because he knew the guy would come to fight. So it was more about letting him see what Conor has and conserve his energy and then adjust to that, and then pick it up.”

What the conditioning coach will say is that years of actual training for triathlons has left the veteran with the ability to persevere when energy stores are low. Diaz might have been closer to beach mode than beast mode when he took the fight, but he was still capable of going five rounds.

“For triathletes, it takes a lot more than the average person for you to redline and make you tired,” he said. “So when the other guy is redlining, that’s when he makes mistakes. You have mental lapses. And even a split-second mental lapse in MMA, bad things can happen.”

They certainly did with McGregor, whose bid for the welterweight title held by Robbie Lawler (27-10 MMA, 12-4 UFC) may be usurped by Diaz.

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Conditioning coach: Nate Diaz was basically coming off couch for Conor McGregor​

And I note that in the post fight Dana was giving mcgregor excuses on top of excuses......hardly gave Diaz any credit

I fukking hate Dana White. He's such a petty little spiteful bytch it's insane. A little man with a big position. You could tell he couldn't wait to hit Ronda up and give her that shot against Holly too. shyt makes no sense. I pray Meisha fukking destroys her in the rematch just to shove it up Dana's ass. I'm fukking sick of his favoritism bullshyt and he's gotta go

 

[The axe murderer]

I fukking hate Dana White. He's such a petty little spiteful bytch it's insane. A little man with a big position. You could tell he couldn't wait to hit Ronda up and give her that shot against Holly too. shyt makes no sense. I pray Meisha fukking destroys her in the rematch just to shove it up Dana's ass. I'm fukking sick of his favoritism bullshyt and he's gotta go

Breh check out the MMA thread. He throwing shots at fukking GSP, a proven GOAT, in favor of conor.......... smh

 

[Another Man]

Breh check out the MMA thread. He throwing shots at fukking GSP, a proven GOAT, in favor of conor.......... smh

See like him or not, and he can get annoying with the antics, one thing you gotta give McGregor is that the kid is a fighter, and loves and respects the fight game and all of it's competitors, so you know it's not exactly sitting well with him when Dana decides to trash a certified legend in the game to try and prop him up. I wouldn't be shocked if Conor ends up checking him on that shyt.

 

[Another Man]

Breh check out the MMA thread. He throwing shots at fukking GSP, a proven GOAT, in favor of conor.......... smh

See like him or not, and he can get annoying with the antics, one thing you gotta give McGregor is that the kid is a fighter, and loves and respects the fight game and all of it's competitors, so you know it's not exactly sitting well with him when Dana decides to trash a certified legend in the game to try and prop him up. I wouldn't be shocked if Conor ends up checking him on that shyt.

 

[Big Boss]

Broner has done more in his sport than McGregor has done in his. If they both retire today, AB will retire as the youngest person to ever win 4 Championships in 4 Different Divisions...McGregor hasn't done anything yet is what Im being led to believe. That's why it's a bad comparision to me.




Also, she compared Nate Diaz to Marcos Maidana, when Maidana had a full training camp, had only 3 losses in 37 career fights & was a former Champion while Diaz came into the fight with 10 losses in 28 career fights, never had been a Champion, and only had 11 days notice




She is a Boxing writer for RING Magazine. She KNOWS this already, but yet she still wrote a horrible article for MMA heads to read.

She???

 

[The Infamous]

Broner has done more in his sport than McGregor has done in his. If they both retire today, AB will retire as the youngest person to ever win 4 Championships in 4 Different Divisions...McGregor hasn't done anything yet is what Im being led to believe. That's why it's a bad comparision to me.




Also, she compared Nate Diaz to Marcos Maidana, when Maidana had a full training camp, had only 3 losses in 37 career fights & was a former Champion while Diaz came into the fight with 10 losses in 28 career fights, never had been a Champion, and only had 11 days notice




She is a Boxing writer for RING Magazine. She KNOWS this already, but yet she still wrote a horrible article for MMA heads to read.

McGregor is/was the face of MMA. He's the FW champion (best fighter between 136-145lb), knocking out the #2 P4P in the world. How hasn't he done anything?

I'm not saying this is an easy feat, but doesn't boxing have 4 champs per division (and there's around double the divisions in boxing)?

@firemanBk is right. The comparison wasn't really about accomplishments.

 

[yoyoyo1]

Broner has done more in his sport than McGregor has done in his. If they both retire today, AB will retire as the youngest person to ever win 4 Championships in 4 Different Divisions...McGregor hasn't done anything yet is what Im being led to believe. That's why it's a bad comparision to me.

Vicente Martin Rodriguez
[URL='http://boxrec.com/boxer/260221']Antonio DeMarco[/URL]
Paul Malignaggi
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[Newzz]

McGregor is/was the face of MMA. He's the FW champion (best fighter between 136-145lb), knocking out the #2 P4P in the world. How hasn't he done anything?

He hasn't done anything relative to Broner's level in the sport of Boxing.


Again, Broner has done something only 14 other people have done before in the 100+ years of Boxing. What historical thing has McGregor done in the sport of MMA?


McGregor wasn't undefeated, wasn't a 3x Champion over 3 different divisions already, and lost to a guy who had 10 losses in 28 fights, had never been a Champion, & had only 11 days of preparation....what is "Adrien Broner" about him?

 

[Newzz]

She???

I thought he was a girl

 

[The Infamous]

He hasn't done anything relative to Broner's level in the sport of Boxing.


Again, Broner has done something only 14 other people have done before in the 100+ years of Boxing. What historical thing has McGregor done in the sport of MMA?


McGregor wasn't undefeated, wasn't a 3x Champion over 3 different divisions already, and lost to a guy who had 10 losses in 28 fights, had never been a Champion, & had only 11 days of preparation....what is "Adrien Broner" about him?

He beat the #2 P4P in MMA, which is easily the best win between either fighter.

Like I said boxing has double the divisions and 4 champs per division. It's hard to compare accomplishments from 2 different sports.

And again, this article wasn't really about accomplishments.

 

[Newzz]

Vicente Martin Rodriguez

Record of 34-2-1 and was ranked the #6 Junior Lightweight in the world by the WBO when Adrien Broner KOd him.

Antonio DeMarco

Record of 28-2-1, was WBC Lightweight Champion, and was ranked #1 Lightweight in the world by RING Magazine when Adrien Broner KOd him.

Paul Malignaggi

Record of 32-4, was WBA Welterweight Champion and a 2x Champion overall, and was ranked the #4 Welterweight in the world when Adrien Broner beat him.

Khabib Allakhverdiev

Record of 19-1, former Champion, and was 1 fight removed from losing the same title he was facing Adrien Broner for (WBA Junior Welterweight Champion) when Broner KOd him.




Anyone else?



Let's see:


Daniel Ponce De Leon: record of 41-2, 2x Champion...KOd by Broner.
Jason Litzau: record of 28-2, ranked #4 by WBC and #9 by RING Magazine at Junior Lightweight....KOd by Broner.
Eloy Perez: record of 23-0-2, ranked #9 Junior Lightweight by RING Magazine...KOd by Broner
Gavin Rees: record of 37-1-1, ranked #1 by WBC, #2 by WBA, #5 by WBO, and #6 by RING Magazine at Lightweight....KOd by Broner.

 

[Big Boss]

I thought he was a girl