SHAZAM! 2: Fury of The Gods (Official Thread - November 4 2022)

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It's a multitude of reasons why it flopped and that is one of them.
Why would you think this if the black adam film also did poorly. :jbhmm:lets say the rock decided to allow these cameos to happen. then they would blame him for tying his bad movie to this one.

this is just white people wanting to put the rock in his place for trying to be the ring master of the dc universe and almost succeeding
notice how no one is blaming gal for this movie bombing even though they added her in the advertising
even the director knew the writing on wall for this movie
the bomb is Warner brothers fault. I’m hearing the movie is actually good they just sent it out to die :yeshrug:
 

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Just got done watching it and it wasn’t that bad of a film. I enjoyed it for what it is. Wasn’t better then the first one tho…

Now when it comes to Rock…he played himself something serious. Like..did he understand that Black Adam was the VILLAIN of the story?

The fact he vetoed the Shazam cameo and refused to make a cameo in the Shazam sequel is :mindblown:

Dude thought his star power would make the studio bow down to his demands and have him be next to Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman :mjlol:

I like Rock but he has to hold that L
 

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Shazam had a scene that hinted at Black Adam’s appearance

Dwayne even started off hyping the showdown between the two.
If remember correctly, the original plan when Rock signed on to play the character was that both Shazam and Black Adam were going to be in the first movie together. But Rock recommended that both characters have their own movies to set up the show down.

So the first movie was going to introduce Shazam while the 2nd movie established Black Adam.

When the 3rd movie comes along they were both going to clash.

So for whatever reason, Rock just had to pivot and wanted his role to be a bigger focus.

Vin Diesel must be somewhere laughing right now :pachaha:
 

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heres the thing

if Gunn doesn't dismantle MCU, The Rock was RIGHT for his business interests. Shazam 2 was gonna brick REGARDLESS because of the lukewarm sentiment of Black Adam, and the fact that the movie itself just doesn't look good from trailers. That would've made a Black Adam vs. Shazam movie general DOA.

Rock saw this coming and wanted no parts of Shazam 2, and wanted Rock vs. Superman.

I'm not saying its right but Rock pulled a 'that doesn't work for me brother', simple as that.

Gunn tanked everything so its irrelevant.
 

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Why would you think this if the black adam film also did poorly. :jbhmm:lets say the rock decided to allow these cameos to happen. then they would blame him for tying his bad movie to this one.

this is just white people wanting to put the rock in his place for trying to be the ring master of the dc universe and almost succeeding
notice how no one is blaming gal for this movie bombing even though they added her in the advertising
even the director knew the writing on wall for this movie
the bomb is Warner brothers fault. I’m hearing the movie is actually good they just sent it out to die :yeshrug:
Gal doesn't have the reputation that the Rock or the ego The Rock does nor was she has vocal about DC as Rock was so it's a difference.

The media and fans have always covered for Rock for the most part, so that defense doesn't necessarily work. He gets the benefit of a doubt compared to the majority of other celebrities, so let’s not make him into a victim.
 
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I recall a lot of cac nerds were upset that the Rock wanted to get away from that silly kids cac movie Shazam and fight Superman instead. :mjpls:

But it was the right call. Shazam in live action was always silly and could never really work.

And the Rock knew that so he avoided it.

But WB because they're idiots didn't want that. So they let Gunn come in and fire everyone and destroy what the Rock was trying to build. Which if they had let it succeed would have given them Cavill and Gadot able to work with DC and do different projects for them which would have kept fan interest high.

But by firing everyone except his friends Gunn has destroyed fan interest because who cares about any of these movies? Even the Flash. Because Affleck is done with Batman, Ezra is a joke, Keaton can't save them, and Supergirl has never been taken seriously.
 

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The Rock is another flop away from begging to be on the last one.
In no order

- Journey 2 $80 mil budget / 335 return
- Jumanji $90-15p mil budget / Billion dollar return
- San Andreas $110 budget / 475 million return
- Moana $150-175 budget / 645 million return
- Jumanji 2 $125-132 budget / 802 million return

No that's not all his movies but you get a great mix here. The Jumanji movies stick out big but even San Andreas and Journey 2 quadrupled the budget at the box office. And that's not counting the Fast series

- Fast 4 (before The Rock) $85 mil budget / 360 mil return
- F5 (w/The Rock) $125 mil budget / 626 mil return
- F6 $160-260 mil budget / 789 mil return
- F7 $190-250 budget / 1.5 Billion return *Paul Walker's death most likely gave this that death boost
- F8 $250-270 budget / 1.2 Billion return

Then you got Hobbs and Shaw with $200 budget and a $700+ return

Where's the abject failure? Black Adam? Ok....

Jungle Cruise? That was a Covid era release on home video.

Y'all really need to get a hold of yourselves with this bullshyt internet hyperbole.
 

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Gal doesn't have the reputation that the Rock or the ego The Rock does so it's a difference. Multiple things can be true at the same time.

The media and fans have always covered for Rock for the most part, so that defense doesn't necessarily work.
Gal wasn’t the one talking about steering DC’s direction, going over people’s heads and vetoing cameos or universe plans.
they thought gal had enough push when they were pushing her in the little ads they made. :manny:
The rock did as much as Warner brothers allowed him and at the time it made sense. where the rock went wrong was being black Adam instead of someone else but racist Hollywood wasn't going to give him anything else.
I still don't see how we're going to blame the rock for any of this when
we're talking about a post credit cameo. that didn't even work for black Adam and superman
This is a sequel to Shazam so the fact that it didn't draw anyone means the people who saw the first didn't know about this one or didn't care about it.
Black Adam bombed and the average person didn't like it so if he was the villain in the movie it wouldn't have done much. the average audience member is tired of the rock.
they did just fine without the rock in the first one. these talks have been going for years and he was supposed to be in the first Shazam. these talks only matter when black Adam and Shazam 2 bombs
Warner brothers doesn't have a lot of money. house party was released and bombed because they didn't market it, Magic Mike was released and then bombed. this is just the latest movie in their line up. the only one they care about is the flash. Aquaman is the next bomb let me look at their calendar hold on

Zach is freaking out because he thought he would be safe if his movie did well.
so it didn't so let's blame rocky.
I hope Gunn gets rid of him:laff:
 

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they thought gal had enough push when they were pushing her in the little ads they made. :manny:
The rock did as much as Warner brothers allowed him and at the time it made sense. where the rock went wrong was being black Adam instead of someone else but racist Hollywood wasn't going to give him anything else.
I still don't see how we're going to blame the rock for any of this when
This is a sequel to Shazam so the fact that it didn't draw anyone means the people who saw the first didn't know about this one or didn't care about it.
Black Adam bombed and the average person didn't like it so if he was the villain in the movie it wouldn't have done much. the average audience member is tired of the rock.
they did just fine without the rock in the first one. these talks have been going for years and he was supposed to be in the first Shazam. these talks only matter when black Adam and Shazam 2 bombs
Warner brothers doesn't have a lot of money. house party was released and bombed because they didn't market it, Magic Mike was released and then bombed. this is just the latest movie in their line up.

Zach is freaking out because he thought he would be safe if his movie did well.
so it didn't so let's blame rocky.
I hope Gunn gets rid of him:laff:
According to The Rock "himself", the film didn't bomb though which is proving my point. N
 

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In no order

- Journey 2 $80 mil budget / 335 return
- Jumanji $90-15p mil budget / Billion dollar return
- San Andreas $110 budget / 475 million return
- Moana $150-175 budget / 645 million return
- Jumanji 2 $125-132 budget / 802 million return

No that's not all his movies but you get a great mix here. The Jumanji movies stick out big but even San Andreas and Journey 2 quadrupled the budget at the box office. And that's not counting the Fast series

- Fast 4 (before The Rock) $85 mil budget / 360 mil return
- F5 (w/The Rock) $125 mil budget / 626 mil return
- F6 $160-260 mil budget / 789 mil return
- F7 $190-250 budget / 1.5 Billion return *Paul Walker's death most likely gave this that death boost
- F8 $250-270 budget / 1.2 Billion return

Then you got Hobbs and Shaw with $200 budget and a $700+ return

Where's the abject failure? Black Adam? Ok....

Jungle Cruise? That was a Covid era release on home video.

Y'all really need to get a hold of yourselves with this bullshyt internet hyperbole.
Sorry breh I don't argue with women, children , old folks nor wrestling fans but go ahead and :cook:

And I'm a rock fan and I liked Black Adam and shazam 1 his antics and ego played a part in this and on his exit from the main fast franchise.


Can't hide the fact that he's been on a steady decline due to his antics. :manny:

Edit - Hit Dog :russ: the stan negged repped me for telling the truth about his hero.
You took your time to look up all those numbers but the fact still remains your hero needs a Hit like pookie at the carter :russ: I was being civil and didn't even say anything about Cavil distancing himself from his management whom's related to your hero for that Black Adam fiasco :deadrose:
The funny part is I took my whole family to see Black Adam you probably watched a camrip or stayed in the basement watching smackdown.
 
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