Shaq Says Penny Was Every Bit As Good As Kobe

[Professor Emeritus]

MJ IS THE GOAT CLOSER...

HE COULDN'T CLOSE IN THAT SERIES.

HIS LEGS WERE DONE AT THE END
OF THOSE GAMES.

WE KNOW YOU DONT
WATCH BALL AND CAN ONLY
RESORT TO BOX SCORES
SO SIMPLE shyt LIKE THIS GOES
OVER YOUR HEAD.





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So '95 playoff Jordan already averaged 32-7-5 on 48% shooting......but if he had his legs under him, he would have averaged, what, 37-9-7 on 54%?

Cause all those extra stats he racks up "closing" would count in his box score. So you're claiming that the '95 playoffs would be the ONE postseason in his 2nd stretch where he'd put up ridiculous #'s even better than his prime.....then why didn't that happen in '96, '97, or '98?


The same player that averaged 31-5-4 on 46% in 1996. Same player that averaged 31-8-5 on 46% in '97. Same player that averaged 32-5-4 on 46% in '98. Why were his scoring, rebounds, assists, defense, and efficiency all WORSE in '96-'98 if he had better legs and better closing in those years?



And you talking about, "But I watch the games!" You were 5 years old in 1995 and you've proven over and over that you don't understand what happens on a basketball court anyway beyond whatever narrative you chose to believe before the games started.


Why is it so hard to just admit that the Bulls added Rodman who put up 12 and 16 on 53% shooting with elite defense, and that Horace Grant averaged 18-11 on 65% shooting in '95, but scored literally 0 points in '96 and had to be replaced with an injured and useless Jon Koncak? Why is it so hard to admit that the Magic were healthy in '95 but lost Grant, Shaw and Anderson in '96 plus had to play Penny and Koncak injured?

 

[Jplaya2023]

This was pre prime young kobe vs end of the road penny

I wanted to see 96 Penny go against 06 Kobe

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Penny missed the entire next season due to two microfracture surgeries, but after that they were basically even in their two November 2001 games too.

Penny: 23-4-4 on 47% shooting and 3.5 turnovers, 2-4 threes
Kobe: 21-5-7 on 48% shooting and 4.5 turnovers, 1-3 threes

That was 23yo Kobe a year into his prime versus washed Penny who had undergone 7 surgeries by that point. Split those games 1-1 even though Kobe was halfway between his 2nd/3rd titles while Penny was on a meh Phoenix squad that missed the playoffs.

 

[CHICAGO]

So '95 playoff Jordan already averaged 32-7-5 on 48% shooting......but if he had his legs under him, he would have averaged, what, 37-9-7 on 54%?

Cause all those extra stats he racks up "closing" would count in his box score. So you're claiming that the '95 playoffs would be the ONE postseason in his 2nd stretch where he'd put up ridiculous #'s even better than his prime.....then why didn't that happen in '96, '97, or '98?


The same player that averaged 31-5-4 on 46% in 1996. Same player that averaged 31-8-5 on 46% in '97. Same player that averaged 32-5-4 on 46% in '98. Why were his scoring, rebounds, assists, defense, and efficiency all WORSE in '96-'98 if he had better legs and better closing in those years?



And you talking about, "But I watch the games!" You were 5 years old in 1995 and you've proven over and over that you don't understand what happens on a basketball court anyway beyond whatever narrative you chose to believe before the games started.


Why is it so hard to just admit that the Bulls added Rodman who put up 12 and 16 on 53% shooting with elite defense, and that Horace Grant averaged 18-11 on 65% shooting in '95, but scored literally 0 points in '96 and had to be replaced with an injured and useless Jon Koncak? Why is it so hard to admit that the Magic were healthy in '95 but lost Grant, Shaw and Anderson in '96 plus had to play Penny and Koncak injured?

YOU REALLY ARE AUTISTIC.

USING SERIES AVERAGES
MAKE NO SENSE WHEN THAT SERIES
CAME DOWN TO 2 GAMES.

GAME 1:
MJ WAS 8-22 FOR 19 PTS WITH 8 TURNOVERS

BULLS WERE UP BY 1PT WITH 11 SECONDS LEFT AND JORDAN TUNRED THE BALL
OVER WHICH LEAD TO A GAME WINNING
FAST BREAK DUNK.
HE WAS IN QUICK SAND OUT THERE.

GAME 6:
HE WAS 8-19 FOR 24 PTS WITH 6 TURNOVERS

BULLS LEAD 102-94 IN THE 4TH
AND LOST THE GAME 108-102.

A NON GASSED MJ DOESNT
ALLOW A 14-0 RUN TO END THE GAME
AT HOME IN AN ELIMINATION GAME.

WHERE WAS ALL OF THIS 32 PTS ON 48%
YOU fukkING DOOFUS?

HE COULDNT CLOSE.



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[Bubba T]

Its sad when people have to fight LeBron stan wars by proxy.

 

[fifth column]

Yall love this lie. Orlando were simply a better team. Bulls couldn't stop em, and got dominated on the boards.

What happened is that the Bulls got Harper and Rodman. And Nick Anderson turned into a Mental case after that 4 free them misses.

So Orlando get to have “what ifs” but the Bulls don’t

 

[fifth column]

Why do y'all lie so openly and think it should mean anything?

The difference between 1995 and 1996 was the Bulls adding Rodman and the Magic having five major injuries. MJ looked the exact same both years

Horace Grant in 1995: 18-11-2 on 65% shooting
Horace Grant in 1996: Rodman holds him to 0 points and 1 rebound before he's knocked out for the series just 28 minutes into Game 1. Rodman put up 13 points and 21 rebounds in the game while utterly dominating Grant.

Brian Shaw got knocked out in Game 2, Nick Anderson got knocked out in Game 3, Jon Koncak (Grant's replacement) played injured all series, and Penny was playing hurt too. Plus Nick Anderson had a permanent case of the yips after that choke-job in the 1995 Finals (shot just 31% FG, 20% 3pt, and 36% FT for the series).



Meanwhile, what was the vast improvement in MJ that you claim decided the series?

MJ against Orlando in 1995: 31-7-4 on 48% shooting
MJ against Orlando in 1996: 30-6-5 on 52% shooting


Y'all just LIE every day on here.

The difference between 1995 and 1996 is MJ returning from baseball late in the NBA season and out of basketball shape

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Kobe looked up to Penny. Kobe asked Penny should he go pro and Penny kinda shined on him cuz he didnt know who he was. And that was all Kobe needed to add fuel to his fire. Penny knew it but wasnt tripping because it never hated Kobe

 

[seemorecizzy]

Y'all love quoting Shaq because he says stupid shyt on a daily basis just to get attention.

MJ in the 1st round in 1995 averaged 32-7-6 on 50% shooting.
MJ in the 2nd round in 1995 averaged 31-7-4 on 48% shooting.


He didn't have back-to-back series that good again for the entire rest of his playing career. They lost in 1995 because they had no rebounding or interior defense after losing Horace Grant. Same reason they had been struggling a bit in the regular season after winning 55 games the previous year. Once they picked up Rodman in the summer, they were fine. That's why Phil and MJ were willing to take the flier on a head case.

If we're supposed to believe you, the Bulls didn't need to risk fukking up team chemistry with Rodman because they already had the title in the bag once MJ got a full season in.

im not choosing a coli poster over someone who can directly compare the 95 version of MJ and the 96 version of MJ beause he played against him 2 years straight in ds playoffs lol

 

[Harry B]

im not choosing a coli poster over someone who can directly compare the 95 version of MJ and the 96 version of MJ beause he played against him 2 years straight in ds playoffs lol

I never know if people are trolling with this “he played” thing. People who played have different takes and opinions, you just choose what fits your opinion.

 

[murksiderock]

And you talking about, "But I watch the games!" You were 5 years old in 1995

Hold up, this cornball brother Chicago is only 33-34 and be acting like an authoritarian on Michael Jordan? If this nikka don't sit his ass down somewhere ...

 

[seemorecizzy]

I never know if people are trolling with this “he played” thing. People who played have different takes and opinions, you just choose what fits your opinion.

its not even about him generally playing the game of basketball lol its about him playing in a series against a specific player in 1995, and then playing him in a series again in 96 lol. He also experieced how MJ played before his retirement.

He can make a direct comparison and he said Mj wasnt the same. Which takes away from shaq's accomplishments if anything. His words hold more weight then a coli poster in this situation

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Shaq is one precarious dude. The stuff this dude be saying sometimes is just

I know Penny was a more efficient player...definitely a better playmaker. I could see how he was probably more fun for Shaq to play with. But to say he was “just as good”

Penny was never as dominant as Kobe was. At his peak he was a 21/8/7 guy

At Kobe’s peak he was a 30/5/6 guy


That’s a big difference. Don’t get Shaq sometimes...

I hate when people blurt out a personal opinion and then proceed with a discussion as though it's an acknowledged, indisputable fact.

"You sayin' Penny could've been a top 3 player of all time cause that's what Kobe is..."

 

[UpAndComing]

I've always said Penny and Grant Hill's injuries opened the door for Kobe to become the "face of the NBA"

If they didn't have those injuries, Kobe's light would have definitely been dimmed

 

[CHICAGO]

I've always said Penny and Grant Hill's injuries opened the door for Kobe to become the "face of the NBA"

If they didn't have those injuries, Kobe's light would have definitely been dimmed

KOBE NEVER BECAME
THE FACE OF THE NBA THOUGH.

COLORADO MADE SURE OF THAT.




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