Shannon Sharpe, JR Smith talking about Shaq like he Zion.

[concise]

I thought this was gonna be about off the court stuff.

 

[Sean7]

The Shaq disrespect is starting to get corny and forced.

I get he seemingly left a lot on the table as far as his prime years, buit cmon: Three straight finals MVP's is NOTHING to sneeze at.

Thats incredibly rare air and should be respected

HE was on ANOTHER LEVEL too during that run! Shaq was by far the most dominant player on the planet at the time, you had to game plan to try and slow him down because you were not stopping him with one player.

 

[CHICAGO]

ppl mad shaq was a 10 out of 10 instead of a 12 out of 10 lol

What year was he supposed to win that he didnt because of conditioning? Tim Duncan is da only reason Shaq didnt have more chips and awards and there's no shame in that.

YEA THE ONLY SUPERSTARS
WITH MORE RINGS THAN SHAQ
ARE RUSSELL, MJ, KOBE, MAGIC, KAREEM AND DUNCAN



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[Sean7]

Nobody should be ranking Jokic on an all-time scale until his prime is over, at least.

That said, y'all need stop with this shyt.

Jokic has dominated every single type of big that he's come up against - from cats he's punished in the low post/in the paint (4x DPOY Rudy) to shooting over players whose wingspans can reach the sky (AD). His scoring skillset allows him to kill any type of big. And that's before we even take into account his playmaking, where he is without peer.

When Shaq was in LA running through the league, he was dominating a league full of stiffs and 4s too.

There was a lot of 4s during his time in LA I agree (Unless you call Duncan a 5 but Robinson was still there so Tim Duncan was at the PF most of the time), the age of the PF was the early to mid 00s so I can see what you mean there on that end (Webber, Duncan, Rasheed, Garnett and so on). I won't take away from Shaqs domination though during his peak! He went up against the several time DPOY of the year in Motumbo in those finals and he went off against NJ so no BIG at the time was stopping him one on one but you are right there was not an abundance of great Centers in the league during that time in their prime (David Robinson was in his late 30s by then and past his prime).

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

THE 90S WERE MJS.

HE HAD TO WAIT HIS TURN.



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Wait his turn when he was coming up against:

old ass Divac
old ass Sabonis
old ass Smits
old ass DRob
Mutumbo's one dimensional ass
MacCulloch's no dimensional ass.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

The Shaq disrespect is starting to get corny and forced.

I get he seemingly left a lot on the table as far as his prime years, buit cmon: Three straight finals MVP's is NOTHING to sneeze at.

Thats incredibly rare air and should be respected

We’ll probably never see 3 straight finals mvp in our lifetime again.

 

[No1]

Wait his turn when he was coming up against:

old ass Divac
old ass Sabonis
old ass Smits
old ass DRob
Mutumbo's one dimensional ass
MacCulloch's no dimensional ass.

None of those players had anything to do with Shaq not winning in the 90s.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

None of those players had anything to do with Shaq not winning in the 90s.

Those are the true centers he was coming up against when he was winning.

 

[CHICAGO]

Wait his turn when he was coming up against:

old ass Divac
old ass Sabonis
old ass Smits
old ass DRob
Mutumbo's one dimensional ass
MacCulloch's no dimensional ass.

SHAQ WOULD AVERAGE 40
AGAINST PFS TODAY.

AD ON SHAQ?

WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?
ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY
JOKER>>>SHAQ?

IF SO SAY IT.



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[HollywoodP]

I got that game when Kobe shyt all over JR Smith and the Nuggets burned into my memory.

 

[melraH]

I'm still salty JR smutted out my fav actress.

 

[UpAndComing]

YOU NAMED A PF IN AD
AND A GREAT WEAK SIDE HELP DEFENDER IN GOBERT.

JOKER AND EMBIID ARE
THE ONLY TRUE CENTERS IN
THE LEAGUE IN TERMS OF SIZE AND SKILL.

SHAQ DOMINATED IN THE 90S
AS SOON AS HE STEPPED ON
A NBA COURT.


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Exactly. Shaq came in the league and made an immediate impact alongside prime

- Olajuwon
- Ewing
- David Robinson
- Alonzo Mourning
- Rik Smitts
- Mutombo
- Divac

Jokic has no where near the competition in the modern era. Anyone trying to argue this point is an idiot

 

[ECA]

Nobody should be ranking Jokic on an all-time scale until his prime is over, at least.

That said, y'all need stop with this shyt.

Jokic has dominated every single type of big that he's come up against - from cats he's punished in the low post/in the paint (4x DPOY Rudy) to shooting over players whose wingspans can reach the sky (AD). His scoring skillset allows him to kill any type of big. And that's before we even take into account his playmaking, where he is without peer.

When Shaq was in LA running through the league, he was dominating a league full of stiffs and 4s too.

Todd McCullough was a starting center in the finals

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

SHAQ WOULD AVERAGE 40
AGAINST PFS TODAY.

AD ON SHAQ?



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He wouldn't average 40 simply because he wouldn't get enough possessions and wouldn't play enough time.

On that note - if that's the measurement you want to use, then Jokic would still contribute more points through his own creation and creation for his teammates.

WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?



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What are we doing here?

We're debunking your argument on the difference in big man competition that Jokic faces vs. what Shaq faced.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Exactly. Shaq came in the league and made an immediate impact alongside prime

- Olajuwon
- Ewing
- David Robinson
- Alonzo Mourning
- Rik Smitts
- Mutombo
- Divac

Jokic has no where near the competition in the modern era. Anyone trying to argue this point is an idiot

And Shaq didn't win shyt until his competition died out and/or got weaker.

Unless we're talking about dominating removed from success like winning championships, which would go against the point of this thread.

It's rather an empty argument to begin with, because it's not like Jokic is playing against lesser competition, he's still playing against all-time great talent, regardless of position. The greatest player to ever play the game (to many) had virtually no competition at his position, yet we never hear those folks use that against him.