Shakur Stevenson: "If Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard were to box today, people would call them runners"
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Thank you for making Shakur Stevenson's point
That's not what running means.
And nikkaz back then ain't even think about running or even moving too much.
That's why the rope a dope thing was big.
Katts use to really bang.
Shakur has fights where he actually really kinda gets out the way.
And some of is fights get stop prematurely.
He's undoubtedly talented. But He gonna run up against a Tank
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You can't be a "runner" if you are knocking opponents out.
SRL and Ali were laying guys out.
NZA
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nobody criticizes slick guys who go in for the kill when they get their opponent hurt.
threattonature
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Yup. Plus there is a huge difference between keeping distance and flat out running. It's one thing to fight at a distance and piece your opponent up as he comes in and then dancing back out of range to repeat the process. It's another that everytime the opponent comes inside you just dance out of the way without making him pay.
Shakur has had a couple of fights were he looked like he was just flat out trying to avoid engaging, especially the last one.
Add on the level of competition. SRL was dancing away from Marvin Hagler and Roberto Duran. Two killers in the ring who will punish the fukk out of you with boxing skills to back it up. Ali same thing, heavy handed punchers. Not somebody that they could easily outbox.
MoshpitMazi
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I never seen Shakur put hands on anyone
Flex Grossman
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Difference is , Shakur, they backed their defensive “running” up with classic fights and KO wins
Shakur looked horrible in the last fight. Dude was legit not trying to engage or scared when buddy threw a punch. He was ready to jump out the ring whenever he was about to get hit.. buddy was clowning him too
Just stop talking and prove nikkas wrong (or right) in your next fight. He only got like 10 KO’s on his record too, so despite the wins he’s gonna get criticized for that kind of performance and that he doesn’t have power at his weight class
Shakur looked horrible in the last fight. Dude was legit not trying to engage or scared when buddy threw a punch. He was ready to jump out the ring whenever he was about to get hit.. buddy was clowning him too
Just stop talking and prove nikkas wrong (or right) in your next fight. He only got like 10 KO’s on his record too, so despite the wins he’s gonna get criticized for that kind of performance and that he doesn’t have power at his weight class
NZA
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then let me add more context to it. nobody criticizes slick fighters who consistently seek to hurt the opponent, and then when having done so, go in for the kill. shakur spends far more time trying to not get hit than trying to hurt his opponents. he has had a few fights where he performed better offensively, but that has not been the norm. he has been mostly content to box inferior opposition to decisions.
Thats not the whole story. Shakur knows it. Leonard would clamp down and fight when necessary. Had absurd hand speed. Ali? Nah..thats not even worth addressing.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
DLH vs. Trinidad is what I would class as running. It cost him that fight.
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I just saw the hagler fight yesterday actually. Leonard ABSOLUTELY ran. He ran for 7 rounds straight until he tired out. The worst part was he would clinch if anything happened. There was 10 clinches a round. He'd hit hagler after the bell was rung. He hit hagler with low blows. Hagler was trash though and Leonard whipped his ass.
NYC Rebel
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What about other fights?