Seth Rollins' GF Zahra, Nazi Sympathizer - GF Fired

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fact tho. I agree. Im not saying she shouldn't be judged. But I just dont want to live in a world where I have to hide my true self because of what somebody may think 10 years from now.

Im not cool with that. Im not cool with watching what I say in my own fukking house.
If your true self is being a bigot and you can't even hide it, that's on you. People getting fired aren't saying minor things. They're saying some disturbing vitriolic stuff. Unless you have some fukked up beliefs and can't hide them, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
 

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that wasnt my point. Once again, my point is I dont believe people should be punished at work, for shyt they do at home.

I dont think Donald Sterling should have lost his team either. I UNDERSTAND Y HE DID. 100% UNDERSTAND WHY. fukk DONALD STERLING. But I dont think it's right in context to what this country is SUPPOSEDLY about.

Im not okay with people being recorded and being punished for what they say in bed with their chick. Im not okay with somebody digging up some shyt I did three years ago on my page on my own time, and using it against me AT WORK today. That sets a precedent where im not FREE to speak and do as I wish. Thats my point.

Im not defending Zahra's actions. Shes a c*nt. But there is a fundamental issue here. I dont like this trend in the country.

If she did it while she was under the employ of WWE, obviously fire her. Thats conduct unbecoming. But if she said this shyt 3 years ago. Before she was in developmental. Have her apologize and move on.

fukk Zahra once again. But as a real nikka, I still have to stand by what I feel is right.


I get that you are black, and that you don't support their actions (no need to further clarify)

You are speaking about individual freedoms being stripped due to past actions (and thoughts). Her actions are wildly different than Donald Sterling And Hulk Hogan because they both offered public apologies for times they were recorded without their consent...she (still) hasn't... and she was the one who willfully posted the comments and the Nazi imagery. There is a big difference between getting baited into saying something (like Sterling) and willfully posting that you like all Disney Princesses EXCEPT Tiana (the black one) and then reaffirming those comments with smileys...there is a big difference between speaking off the cuff about who your daughter is having sex with (while being SECRETLY filmed) and posting swastikas on an instagram

The difference between our work and hers is that they are "public figures". You or I aren't representing a company on television each week. They need to be more scrupulous than our employers because of the nature of the work. Just like your employer wouldn't "fire you" for gaining 20 lbs, where a modeling agency may drop a model for that same reason. You can't compare the regulations in your industry to that of "entertainers" because they do a completely different type of work.

The main point is that we also don't know if she was fired for the imagery, or refusing to remove/apologize for the imagery. WWE has not issued an "official" statement and neither has she. We don't know if they gave her the chance to apologize and she said "nope" because she would rather be famous for being notorious than to apologize and still end up in the WWE abyss.

long and short of it

You said: My main point is that people shouldn't be fired for what they do at home
Counter: once you put things online, you are no longer "doing them at home" you are building a very public image of who you are and what you believe in (especially for entertainers and sometimes what you do in the past catches up to you.
 

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I get that you are black, and that you don't support their actions (no need to further clarify)

You are speaking about individual freedoms being stripped due to past actions (and thoughts). Her actions are wildly different than Donald Sterling And Hulk Hogan because they both offered public apologies for times they were recorded without their consent...she (still) hasn't... and she was the one who willfully posted the comments and the Nazi imagery. There is a big difference between getting baited into saying something (like Sterling) and willfully posting that you like all Disney Princesses EXCEPT Tiana (the black one) and then reaffirming those comments with smileys...there is a big difference between speaking off the cuff about who your daughter is having sex with (while being SECRETLY filmed) and posting swastikas on an instagram

The difference between our work and hers is that they are "public figures". You or I aren't representing a company on television each week. They need to be more scrupulous than our employers because of the nature of the work. Just like your employer wouldn't "fire you" for gaining 20 lbs, where a modeling agency may drop a model for that same reason. You can't compare the regulations in your industry to that of "entertainers" because they do a completely different type of work.

The main point is that we also don't know if she was fired for the imagery, or refusing to remove/apologize for the imagery. WWE has not issued an "official" statement and neither has she. We don't know if they gave her the chance to apologize and she said "nope" because she would rather be famous for being notorious than to apologize and still end up in the WWE abyss.

long and short of it

You said: My main point is that people shouldn't be fired for what they do at home
Counter: once you put things online, you are no longer "doing them at home" you are building a very public image of who you are and what you believe in (especially for entertainers and sometimes what you do in the past catches up to you.
The Nazi stuff nullified the apology opportunity. Jewish people don't let that slide. She was done as soon as it went public. And an apology is worthless because if she knew better she would have done better.
 

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The Nazi stuff nullified the apology opportunity. Jewish people don't let that slide. She was done as soon as it went public. And an apology is worthless because if she knew better she would have done better.

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I get that you are black, and that you don't support their actions (no need to further clarify)

You are speaking about individual freedoms being stripped due to past actions (and thoughts). Her actions are wildly different than Donald Sterling And Hulk Hogan because they both offered public apologies for times they were recorded without their consent...she (still) hasn't... and she was the one who willfully posted the comments and the Nazi imagery. There is a big difference between getting baited into saying something (like Sterling) and willfully posting that you like all Disney Princesses EXCEPT Tiana (the black one) and then reaffirming those comments with smileys...there is a big difference between speaking off the cuff about who your daughter is having sex with (while being SECRETLY filmed) and posting swastikas on an instagram

The difference between our work and hers is that they are "public figures". You or I aren't representing a company on television each week. They need to be more scrupulous than our employers because of the nature of the work. Just like your employer wouldn't "fire you" for gaining 20 lbs, where a modeling agency may drop a model for that same reason. You can't compare the regulations in your industry to that of "entertainers" because they do a completely different type of work.

The main point is that we also don't know if she was fired for the imagery, or refusing to remove/apologize for the imagery. WWE has not issued an "official" statement and neither has she. We don't know if they gave her the chance to apologize and she said "nope" because she would rather be famous for being notorious than to apologize and still end up in the WWE abyss.

long and short of it

You said: My main point is that people shouldn't be fired for what they do at home
Counter: once you put things online, you are no longer "doing them at home" you are building a very public image of who you are and what you believe in (especially for entertainers and sometimes what you do in the past catches up to you.

dap rep. I would have fired her too.

But, it just makes me nervous for the future. If I say "I dont want my son wearing a dress like Jayden Smith." on my FB, and 3 years from now im wild famous. People might say im homophobic.

If I say fukk the Police. Am I spreading hate... should I be punished? Thats my thing. People always use righteousness to oppress you. I dont want these types of things becoming the norm. Because where is the boundary of what defines hateful talk.

In this case, im black and didnt appreciate what she said. But im sure the dudes on reddit, have come up with 100 justifications for it. This whole social media/tape recorded shyt is just murky ground to me.
 

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The Nazi stuff nullified the apology opportunity. Jewish people don't let that slide. She was done as soon as it went public. And an apology is worthless because if she knew better she would have done better.

fact. i didnt want to address that. But I think had she just said the black shyt, she woulda been good. Jews and Gays and its a wrap.
 

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dap rep. I would have fired her too.

But, it just makes me nervous for the future. If I say "I dont want my son wearing a dress like Jayden Smith." on my FB, and 3 years from now im wild famous. People might say im homophobic.

If I say fukk the Police. Am I spreading hate... should I be punished? Thats my thing. People always use righteousness to oppress you. I dont want these types of things becoming the norm. Because where is the boundary of what defines hateful talk.

In this case, im black and didnt appreciate what she said. But im sure the dudes on reddit, have come up with 100 justifications for it. This whole social media/tape recorded shyt is just murky ground to me.
If you had a pattern of criticizing gay people (in a direct way and not the Jaden Smith example) then it would be a problem for the future. Some comments here and there won't be detrimental.
 

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nikka im black. All them muthafukkas are racist I dont need a IG post to figure that out. Are you okay NOT KNOWING THESE THINGS? Id rather know u dont like my people so I can deal with u accordingly.
Lmao, you're trying too hard dude. Really. So now you're the thought police and automatically know shyt because you're Black :usure:? :ufdup:

And I am too. I'd rather know who my enemies are if they're bold enough to tell me. Not assume shyt and waste time and credibility with conspiracy theories and blatant caping.
 

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If your true self is being a bigot and you can't even hide it, that's on you. People getting fired aren't saying minor things. They're saying some disturbing vitriolic stuff. Unless you have some fukked up beliefs and can't hide them, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Or straight c00ning. I've never seen a "brotha" fight this hard for a Nazi sympathizer.
 

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If I say fukk the Police. Am I spreading hate... should I be punished? Thats my thing. People always use righteousness to oppress you. I dont want these types of things becoming the norm. Because where is the boundary of what defines hateful talk.
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This kind of thing worries me too. Even though situations like this one might be obvious (she's a piece of shyt and deserves to be fired), I do predict that there will be increasing levels of grey area and that it'll become a problem down the road. If humans weren't overly emotional, hot headed, prone to mob mentality, I'd think otherwise, but....
 

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Long and short of all of this caping, rationalization, and slippery slope shyt is you simply have to know who your audience is and could be. If you're a small fish saying "fukk the police", nobody would probably give a shyt. If you get large enough that ranting about it would hurt you, you have to be smart enough to know this and independent enough to accept the consequences of people trying to take your money from you.

There's no right and wrong about it. People are sensitive to different things, and if you're brave enough to take some beats, do you. I have lots of White friends on my FB page and I rant about the police and Republicans constantly. I haven't lost many, and I guess some just unfollow but stay friends. I doubt it because when my dad had his stroke I had a lot of outpouring from people I was political enemies with.

I'd even gone hard on White apathy. So whatever. Just know the ledge.
 
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