serious question: when and where did house music stop being cool amongst black Americans?

[Unknown Poster]

One reason


C & C Music Factory

Haven't heard that name in a while.

@Sagat shyt you know breh?
He called secrets by the weeknd, house. I think it's synthpop, but i have no problem admitting to be wrong

The Weeknd is more of a glossy post synthpop r&b now.

Synth pop pretty much came up around or was moreso the precursor to that sound and the euro house sound in the mid to late 80s into the early 90s really derivative of Neu Wave style and into that period.

It all pretty much came from really Kraftwerk and Krautrock as far as electronic music is concerned in the 70s which came from Kraut rock. The venture into programming beats and using machines to make music was summed up in their recordings into 1976. Which was around the time Disco was popular in America. So around that time DJs in America in NyC detroit philly were playing their records.

@IllmaticDelta
Id figure Id tag you since you could expound more knowledge on this.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Yup every city has their own subgenres of black music IMO

Every city.
It all starts really in the black areas of america...each and every time. In the hoods in America. Just like jungle and drum and bass and garage house in the black neighborhoods of the UK.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Think it's a generation thing my older cousin used to always play house but she's in her early 40s now

My family on my moms side woukd take me and my siblings to cookouts and they would play house music there in Newark in the 90s.

 

[MikeyC]

Damn I'm getting school.

Do anyone know the earliest house song???

Most OGs claim its this one:

 

[IllmaticDelta]

House never stopped being cool amongst aframs but the truth of the matter is, it was a heavily regional afram music along with techno (detroit) and garage (new york/jersey). It was never a music that permeated all of afroamerica so if you weren't from those places, the muisic probably didn't touch you as much.

 

[Unknown Poster]

There were some mainstream hits that came out that were corny as shyt and might have had a hand in people
leaving it alone or not giving it a shot in the first place

So much corny shyt.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Come to Detroit, we still thrive off that shyt. We grew up on it. Movement/DEMF is this weekend. I cant fukking wait. Its usually Lit. I met Method Man two years ago at it.


But Rap's hyper-masculinity has a part in it yes.

Went to DEMF in 2008
And 2010.
Amazing shyt...

 

[Unknown Poster]

Yeah because they don't leave their comfort zone, and only go by what is on TV. House is fukking ill to me, and I listen to it more than hip-hop now. I am getting older, and some days driving to and from work I can't listen to a breh talking about killing folks. Or whatever the new drug craze is.

I listen to house every day.

I like working on stuff and throwing on a mix
And having it in the background causw thwre arent any lyrics on it and the bass is dope and there's clashes between samples and synths.

Been thinking about Dillas music because of this. And Dilla actually was a heavy house head.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I dont know if it was the gangsta rap movement that made house too "unmascline" and "too gay" for black men to fukk with....
Or if it was the fact house & techno were still very regional in NYC, NJ, Chicago, Detroit back then.
Or that before the internet we didnt even know what mosr of those producers who's records were selling overseas looked like.
Somehow the blackness got removed.

the thing is if you didn't live in new york/jersey, detroit or chicago, you probably didn't even know the music was afram in origin lol. Remember, these forms went global so fast, that once you actually noticed the music from a region you weren't part of, a whole bunch of white people from overseas had jumped on the wave. That's why all these black pioneers had to go overseas to make money because those people were more aware of the true history and pioneers of the music they loved. London was up on American electronic music whereas in America these scenes were kept underground. Most of the innovators in America from the 80's they were treated like gods in those places but ignored in their own country of origin.

First academic conference on techno music and its African American origins (2006 article)

"Maultsby said the conference will re-establish the African American origins of the genre and an understanding of the context from which it came.


"It is interesting how the music migrated from Detroit to Europe, and the music became associated with rave parties, and then migrated back to the U.S., and Americans became involved ... and the African American identity became invisible," Maultsby said. "Music can be appropriated and re-appropriated, and history can be distorted as a result of that ...Very few people associate techno with its African American origins."

First academic conference on techno music and its African American origins to be at IU on Oct. 21: IU News Room: Indiana University

 

[Unknown Poster]

Rap music has been garbage, Im back rocking House music, especially south african house

Nikkaz need to travel, listening to house music, drinking cocktails on a beach in Ibiza,

Seriously.
House life is the life
Girls
Beaches
Parties
Thats the dream!

 

[Unknown Poster]

Yo put me onto kwaito and South African house brehs

I knew S Africa fukked with house heavy but I haven't check out any of those artists except for Black Coffee (because of the drake superman track)

Same.
I need to get up on that more

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Garage house started in Chicago.
From "The Paradise Garage".

garage house is from ny/jersey. Deep, downtempo, ambiet and acid house is from chicago

 

[invalid]

House music is still popular, at least among the 35-45 y.o black professional/BGLO set in Chicago. Although I just turned 30, growing up I would be around all of my aunts and uncles who'd just finished pledging at UofC or Northwestern in the early 90's and would remember the parties they'd have and all they'd bump was house music. They would have friends from all around city - Chicago State, Loyola, DePaul, NIU, Northwestern, UofC, IIT and they'd just bump house. I would also hear about a couple of clubs they'd go to that played house; The Riv, Cinebar(sp?), E2, Wild Hare. Thursdays and Sunday nights were college nights and house nights.

I like house music a lot as it is pretty nostalgic for me. If I'm not mistaken, its origins are in Chicago's black gay subculture, but it doesn't matter to me, its still good music. My parents are 50+ and I see the interest in house music is not really there among their friends and associates. So it definitely appeals more to a certain age group - those that were in college in the late 80's and early to mid 90's, and possibly to a certain middle class black folk.

There are certain times when house music is GOAT.
Driving down LSD in the summer

Fridays at 3pm when you about to get off work

Rush hour in traffic

Brings back a lot of good memories

My peoples are at the Chosen Few heavy. It's the highlight of the summer.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

House music was snatched by cacs when it became essential to gay culture, primarily in NYC with their dance competition. For historical insight into that time period, watch the documentary "Paris Is Burning". Soon, cacs began releasing products like this:

House was always loved by gays dating back to chicago and even further in NY with disco.

(note that Mclaren also tried to culture vulture Hip Hop with "Buffalo Gals" along with other musical artforms)

facts

I've read somewhere that after the video below came out, we were largely done with House Music. Although, there was some House hits after 1990...

I disagree...infact alot of 90's R&B was basically soulful house. Many modern neo soul tracks are house-based

A post 1990 house hit (but it's more techno than House, I think)

^^more house + techno

 

[IllmaticDelta]