Senate Healthcare Bill Thread - UPDATE: 9/26 Graham-Cassidy Bill is Offically DEAD! Free Daps/Reps!

Dr. Acula

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I was actually Obamacare would get repealed cuz I work in a Republican hospital. You should see how many of them watching CNN and MSNBC now cuz Fox won't cover the Healthcare debate. A doctor told a lady straight up, " You keep saying u wanna wait for people before you consent for this. Hopefully you still have insurance"

I had to tell her what's happening because she didn't even know she had Obamacare. She didn't even know the repeal would hurt her. She thought it was illegal immigrants and Muslims Healthcare. I was floored when she quoted Hannity.

I never seen somebody feel so stupid and so inadequate. I told her you need to read. You have an iPhone and a tablet. Lol.


It'd be sad to see them being turned away with a F U but they made their bed.
But if you try to tell them any different they think you're some liberal devil worshipper. None of these people have the humility to admit they may be getting played. It's annoying.

Anyways what mcconnel et al are hoping for is for the political fire to die down. By next year or after the midterms. They probably realize that if they passed a shyt sand which, it may kill them next year. So they can store it away for now and work on more mundane ways to fukk us over and hope they don't suffer as much a bloodbath next fall.
 

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Analysis | Why is Mitch McConnell still calling for a health-care vote?

What Mitch McConnell is doing next on health care, explained
Sean Sullivan - The Washington Post - Tuesday, July 18, 2017

For Mitch McConnell, Monday night was as embarrassing a blow as they come for a Senate majority leader. Two more Republican senators came out against his bill to overhaul the Affordable Care Act, effectively dooming the latest version. That forced the Kentucky Republican to confront a difficult question with no good options: What now?

The answer he came up with and then articulated in a 90-word written statement was essentially a dare.
McConnell practically challenged conservative critics of the bill to vote against moving the process ahead. How? By publicly dangling in front of them what they have said they wanted if the current effort falls apart: a so-called clean repeal of the law known as Obamacare, with a two-year delay to come up with a replacement.

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But there is a catch: to get that vote, they will now have vote to proceed to consideration of the House-passed repeal and replace bill, which Senate GOP leaders have been trying to reconcile with their own version (through an arcane procedural tactic known appropriately as budget reconciliation).

If hard-right conservative senators vote no on proceeding with the bill and it collapses, McConnell can come back at them and say, “Well, you had your chance at the ‘clean repeal’ you demanded. And you decided not to take it.” He will have shifted some of the blame onto others and given himself a new talking point to counter the “clean repeal” crowd — which includes President Trump.

If they vote yes — hey, they’re suddenly back on track, at the table debating legislation with at least some chance of passing.
But don’t count on the latter scenario ever happening. Why?

Because even if the Senate got to a clean repeal vote, it wouldn’t likely have the votes to pass. So why would the conservatives go out on a limb for something that isn’t expected to actually become law?

Sure, it passed back in 2015. But the stakes were lower back then. Barack Obama was president and he wasn’t ever going to sign a bill that undid his signature law. So Republicans were free to vote for it with little on the line.

Now, there’s a lot on the line — which is why moderate Republicans have openly worried the current Senate bill goes too far in attacking Obamacare. How are they supposed to support a more aggressive repeal?

What’s less clear at this point is McConnell’s longer game. If this doesn’t work out, will he move on to other matters? Follow through on his threats to work with Democrats and narrower reforms, which were seen as ways to try to pressure conservatives not to let this fail? We’ll find out soon.
There are no longer any good outcomes for McConnell — politically speaking. There are bad ones and less bad ones. And putting the onus on other senators means there will be more blame to go around when this all ends.
 

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I live here. Grimes ran a weak campaign and they kept asking her if she voted for Obama and she didn't answer the question. Also the majority of the people in Kentucky are really stupid.
Part of the problem is that until recently, most democrats ran away from obama and ACA. They got scared. None of these people want to own their party's platform. At the least bit of resistance, they run.

They don't even believe what they are selling so it's why so many come off as unauthentic and why many fold like a cheap chair.

You can't even say you voted for your own party's president? :hhh: If people won't vote for you because you supported your president then they won't vote for you because you're democrat more than anything else. Plus it's obvious that you're being dishonest because you probably did vote for your own party's candidate for president. Stop lying and playing. :francis: This adds to the unlikeability. People respect people more who they disagree with but own their shyt, than those who obfuscate and sugar coat their beliefs. It's why the folks on this board who say " I don't support either side " and then proceed to constantly attack just one side are more annoying than someone who for example just owns and says they voted for trump.
 

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There's no real time limit on this. They'll get it done eventually. Probably within the next year or two.
 

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I was actually Obamacare would get repealed cuz I work in a Republican hospital. You should see how many of them watching CNN and MSNBC now cuz Fox won't cover the Healthcare debate. A doctor told a lady straight up, " You keep saying u wanna wait for people before you consent for this. Hopefully you still have insurance"

I had to tell her what's happening because she didn't even know she had Obamacare. She didn't even know the repeal would hurt her. She thought it was illegal immigrants and Muslims Healthcare. I was floored when she quoted Hannity.

I never seen somebody feel so stupid and so inadequate. I told her you need to read. You have an iPhone and a tablet. Lol.


It'd be sad to see them being turned away with a F U but they made their bed.
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I see a lot of money and peer pressuring going on until all Republicans vote yes. :yeshrug: Trump gonna put the guys who are saying 'no' on blast until they cave in.
I think that Mitch is fukking with Trump, and Trump is losing more and more political capital by the day. I think that it is inevitable that D's take back the government, and I think that Trump attacking members of the R party is not sitting well with Mitch and they are not gonna carry water for him at the expense of their own hides. If you look at the special elections, it is not Trump that got those wins, if anything they lost more base at the local level considering the margins that the original seat holders won by compared to the thin margin they squeezed out the wins by. Trump is going to destroy the Republican Party.
 

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I think that Mitch is fukking with Trump, and Trump is losing more and more political capital by the day. I think that it is inevitable that D's take back the government, and I think that Trump attacking members of the R party is not sitting well with Mitch and they are not gonna carry water for him at the expense of their own hides. If you look at the special elections, it is not Trump that got those wins, if anything they lost more base at the local level considering the margins that the original seat holders won by compared to the thin margin they squeezed out the wins by. Trump is going to destroy the Republican Party.
Yep.

Everyone wants to say " I don't want moral victories" in relation to close races. That's understandable. But you can't dismiss that republicans are winning races by single digits now instead of double digits. This is not something that should be dismissed.

Also people forget these special elections are for seats that were emptied by trump administration appointees and usually people aren't pulled from these areas unless the party in power has confidence they won't lose the seat. So these are seats that were believed to be safe already.
 

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The reason the GOP tried to make a plan was because they knew for a fact they couldn't get votes for a flat out repeal with no replacement.

The GOP were digging their grave through all of Obama's administration and now they have to lay in it.

They made a deal with the devil to get the house, the senate and eventually the presidency but what difference does it make if you can't pass anything.

The Devils Contract :ohlawd:
 

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Part of the problem is that until recently, most democrats ran away from obama and ACA. They got scared. None of these people want to own their party's platform. At the least bit of resistance, they run.

They don't even believe what they are selling so it's why so many come off as unauthentic and why many fold like a cheap chair.

You can't even say you voted for your own party's president? :hhh: If people won't vote for you because you supported your president then they won't vote for you because you're democrat more than anything else. Plus it's obvious that you're being dishonest because you probably did vote for your own party's candidate for president. Stop lying and playing. :francis: This adds to the unlikeability. People respect people more who they disagree with but own their shyt, than those who obfuscate and sugar coat their beliefs. It's why the folks on this board who say " I don't support either side " and then proceed to constantly attack just one side are more annoying than someone who for example just owns and says they voted for trump.

It's called lacking a spine.

Why the hell does Bernie Sanders, a 75 year old self declared democratic socialist, still draw big crowds in a state like Kentucky or West Virginia?

People will respect you if you stand for something and actually believe in it. Cut through the bullshid. It's what I hate about "focus group" tested politicians who think way too damn hard and end up lying for no reason.
 
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