"She's so right everybody dies so let's just get rid of healthcare I pay my taxes and I ain't supporting any freeloaders"
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T GET FINANCING FOR MY HOVEROUND AND VIAGRA IS $50 A PILL?!"
Senate Healthcare Bill Thread - UPDATE: 9/26 Graham-Cassidy Bill is Offically DEAD! Free Daps/Reps!
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"She's so right everybody dies so let's just get rid of healthcare I pay my taxes and I ain't supporting any freeloaders"
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T GET FINANCING FOR MY HOVEROUND AND VIAGRA IS $50 A PILL?!"
Senate GOP leaders aim for revised health bill by Friday
Translation: "We'll shave another 2 million off the CBO report. That'll show them."
Translation: "We'll shave another 2 million off the CBO report. That'll show them."
The latest polls show support for this bill is under 20%.
Polls show GOP health bill bleeding out
Trump may be teflon with his supporters, but they will take out their disapproval on Congress members in 2018.
The cognitive dissonance with Trump supporters could lead them to support Trump tacit push of the bill while simultaneously punishing GOP congress for passing the bill especially since Trump has voiced reservations with the House Bill.
Push comes to shove and Trump will throw the entire GOP under the bus and his supporters will buy it.
Polls show GOP health bill bleeding out
Trump may be teflon with his supporters, but they will take out their disapproval on Congress members in 2018.
The cognitive dissonance with Trump supporters could lead them to support Trump tacit push of the bill while simultaneously punishing GOP congress for passing the bill especially since Trump has voiced reservations with the House Bill.
Push comes to shove and Trump will throw the entire GOP under the bus and his supporters will buy it.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Dave Rubin has himself said as much.Lol there's someone in that thread arguing AGAINST the USDA
These people are delusional
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Dude said it was anticompetitive
Yes... I want the ability to sell low cost disease ridden beef from Brazil without Uncle Sam breathing down my neck
No they won't.
They may be mad about losing their healthcare but FOX News/Trump will just tell them that it's because of Obama/blacks/illegals and they'll eat it up and go right back to supporting the GOP.
No they won't.
They may be mad about losing their healthcare but FOX News/Trump will just tell them that it's because of Obama/blacks/illegals and they'll eat it up and go right back to supporting the GOP.
This isn't a secret. In fact this is SOP on both sides when it comes to legislation. The cornhusker kickback was the bribe Reid used to get Bill Nelson support on the ACA.
The use of the word bribe here means that mcconnel can go to say the senator to Alaska and tell her "if you vote yes on this bill, we will budget money for whatever projects you have in Alaska". This is why it's foolish to feel any delay on this bill is a victory or win. Nah, that just means that Mcconnel needs time to work out some deals for support. This bill will passs. No doubt.
This is not abnormal and is the whole issue of pork spending that John McCain used to rail again.
afterlife2009
Superstar
Lol...
No final decision has been made, Republicans said, but the party is leaning strongly toward reshaping the bill to be less of a tax cut for the wealthy and more to supplying health insurance options to the working poor.
“We are going to figure out a way, I believe, before Friday comes, to greatly enhance the ability of lower-income Americans to buy health insurance on the exchanges that actually covers them. And my sense is the [investment tax] is going to go away,” Corker said. “It’s not an acceptable proposition to have a bill that increases the burden on lower-income citizens and lessens the burden on wealthy citizens.”
Killing or delaying the tax cuts will give the party significantly more money to play with and potentially change the optics of a bill portrayed by Democrats and some GOP critics as a tax cut for the rich at the expense of curtailing benefits for the poor.
The "net investment tax" imposes a 3.8 percent charge on some investments by people who make more than $250,000 a year, in addition to the capital gains tax. Centrist and deal-making senators are ready to scrap it to take away critics' ammunition.
Corker and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) have both raised the issue in party lunches, Republicans said.
Republicans are also considering keeping a Medicare tax increase from Obamacare that their initial bill would cut. Combined, the investment tax and Medicare tax could give the party more than $200 billion to invest in healthcare, on top of the $188 billion in savings the GOP has to spend from its initial Congressional Budget Office score this weekend.
McConnell met with a bevy of senators privately over the past two days, including conservatives like Ted Cruz of Texas and moderates like Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. The party is trying to reach a new deal on healthcare by Friday.
“One of the things the working group said at the outset is that we will not set any artificial deadlines. We would keep working until we reached an agreement,” Cruz said after leaving McConnell’s office.
Movement on the party’s tax cuts follows a new Wednesday evening offer among White House and congressional negotiators. That plan would deliver $45 billion to fight opioid addiction and establish health savings accounts that would allow people to pay for insurance premiums with pre-tax money, aimed at moderates and conservatives, respectively.
The frenzied atmosphere is a last-ditch attempt by McConnell and his lieutenants to salvage a bill that will no longer be considered this week, despite vows by leadership that a vote would occur regardless of the outcome.
Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) said that he’d like the Senate to vote in the first two weeks after the chamber reconvenes following the July Fourth recess. He said part of the difficulty is receiving a new score from CBO which he said is using a “Ouija board … to predict the future.” The Senate cannot vote without a CBO score.
No final decision has been made, Republicans said, but the party is leaning strongly toward reshaping the bill to be less of a tax cut for the wealthy and more to supplying health insurance options to the working poor.
“We are going to figure out a way, I believe, before Friday comes, to greatly enhance the ability of lower-income Americans to buy health insurance on the exchanges that actually covers them. And my sense is the [investment tax] is going to go away,” Corker said. “It’s not an acceptable proposition to have a bill that increases the burden on lower-income citizens and lessens the burden on wealthy citizens.”
Killing or delaying the tax cuts will give the party significantly more money to play with and potentially change the optics of a bill portrayed by Democrats and some GOP critics as a tax cut for the rich at the expense of curtailing benefits for the poor.
The "net investment tax" imposes a 3.8 percent charge on some investments by people who make more than $250,000 a year, in addition to the capital gains tax. Centrist and deal-making senators are ready to scrap it to take away critics' ammunition.
Corker and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) have both raised the issue in party lunches, Republicans said.
Republicans are also considering keeping a Medicare tax increase from Obamacare that their initial bill would cut. Combined, the investment tax and Medicare tax could give the party more than $200 billion to invest in healthcare, on top of the $188 billion in savings the GOP has to spend from its initial Congressional Budget Office score this weekend.
McConnell met with a bevy of senators privately over the past two days, including conservatives like Ted Cruz of Texas and moderates like Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. The party is trying to reach a new deal on healthcare by Friday.
“One of the things the working group said at the outset is that we will not set any artificial deadlines. We would keep working until we reached an agreement,” Cruz said after leaving McConnell’s office.
Movement on the party’s tax cuts follows a new Wednesday evening offer among White House and congressional negotiators. That plan would deliver $45 billion to fight opioid addiction and establish health savings accounts that would allow people to pay for insurance premiums with pre-tax money, aimed at moderates and conservatives, respectively.
The frenzied atmosphere is a last-ditch attempt by McConnell and his lieutenants to salvage a bill that will no longer be considered this week, despite vows by leadership that a vote would occur regardless of the outcome.
Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) said that he’d like the Senate to vote in the first two weeks after the chamber reconvenes following the July Fourth recess. He said part of the difficulty is receiving a new score from CBO which he said is using a “Ouija board … to predict the future.” The Senate cannot vote without a CBO score.
Cosmetic. I'm concerned about preexisting conditions, Medicaid expansion, essential health benefits, lifetime caps, etc.
Do not give in and give them a
on this shyt. This is only an out being given to center republicans to support the bill to maintain an image of supporting a "less bad" bill.
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I keep reading comments from these same people attacking the "leeches" who they have to pay health insurance for while they have to work, not realizing ACA isn't just Medicaid or access to health exchanges. They also act like their usually white ass are the only people who pay taxes. The entitlement and arrogance is sickening.No they won't.
They may be mad about losing their healthcare but FOX News/Trump will just tell them that it's because of Obama/blacks/illegals and they'll eat it up and go right back to supporting the GOP.
EVERYONE will be impacted by this. It gets rid of the employer mandate which incentivized employers to provide coverage. Without it, companies can says "peace to your plan. We're not interested in providing it anymore."
The thing is you can argue with these people all day and change some minds here and there. But you're just one person with limited time and resources.
Democrats need to use the apparatus and cash to inform these people better. I have yet to see much of that. Republicans are much better in brainwashing people than democrats.