School me on the pipe bomb

[Art Barr]

It is amazing how horribly booked punk was after he won the strap, you couldn't have booked him any worse if you tried, easily one of the worst booking decisions I can ever remember. From having him come back way too soon, throwing him in a fued with Nash, to the most egregious booking decision in company history by having HHH go over cleanly. The hottest wrestler on the planet loses to a part timer, no one was going to give a shyt about punk getting his win back 9 months later, that killed so much of his momentum. Of all the unforgivable burials HHH has done, that was easily the worst. At least the argument could be made that in the past HHH was a full time wrestler, by this time he was part time, it still pisses me off thinking about it. The pipe bomb and the MITB match got me back into wrestling and the way they completely dropped the ball afterwards made me leave again. Actually I don't think I've watched full time since then.

Cripple ache feared punk, because real talk....
Their feud should have been over the use of the Pepsi plunge and in that either punk or cripple could have gone over and the finish was interchangeable by having the victor give the super pedigree or super Pepsi plunge. That at the end both would have been over regardless. Instead we got clique bullshyt like usual.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

No it was one of the best runs in recent history, the MITB Ppv was one of the best in years. The more I think the more I feel the booking after the PPV is easily the worst booking and decision making in company history

No the worst decision in WWE history is not creating a workrate based product that would lengthen the shelf life of their talent. The lack of actual wrasslin sequences and chain counters that made db to punk, and the Indy heroes their draw was removed. Plus took away the ability for the talent to stay healthy. Instead the WWE simply put db and punk out there in the smashmouth WWE me style. That the son in law is injury prone to and from exclusively. Yet do not and will not change this low quality workrate style or aesthetic.
Simply because actual worked wrasslin sequences exposes said son in law.
As being completely inept as an actual grappler or wrassler.
when it comes to grappling based sequences and psychology based sequences and aptitude.


Art Barr

 

[Jmare007]

Triple H had the audacity to go on Stone Cold's podcast saying HIM feuding with Punk was the way to getting Punk MORE over, but it just didn't work out

And this is who neckbeards trust to run the company when Cokeboy dies.

To me, the worst part of it all is he had even Punk spewing the bullshyt. As soon as he signed the contract he tried to go along with their retarded booking and was even saying the typical "wait and see" BS. Hell, he was still saying it in 2012 in the Colt Cabana podcast IIRC

 

[CM_Burns]

It was a good promo that gets its importance overstated. CM Punk drew money one night in his life, and brother, it took a "wrestling is fake, BUT THIS IS REAL" angle to do it

 

[CM_Burns]

Prolly the BIGGEST example of "Dropping the Ball" in wrestling history.

shyt was damn near an unlimited potential angle.

It was limited because Punk coming back after a "THIS IS REAL!" angle was always gonna be underwhelming

 

[Cladyclad]

So the pipe bomb was a work shoot?

I wasn’t watching wrestling at the time either but I always thought Punk did that on his on own accord

I got worked

 

[Scottie Drippin]

So the pipe bomb was a work shoot?

I wasn’t watching wrestling at the time either but I always thought Punk did that on his on own accord

I got worked

They let him go out without a script, and told him they'd pull the plug whenever he went too far. Once he started on the Be A Star thing they cut the cord. It was a shoot, but obviously they allowed it. Punk had been arguing for more freedom and opportunities and swore by his mic ability and finally Vince said fukk it, there you go.

 

[NYChase718]

Gave punk his "record breaking" title reign, his merch and his ice cream bars as contract stipulations.....


STILL booked a titleless Cena as champ over him

Yeah i recall when they started that raw supershow and went 3 hours

Punk would be coming out somewhere in the first hour or beginning of the 2nd and youd never see him again

Yet hes the champ

 

[Art Barr]

Yeah punk was kept to move merchandise and shyt but like bryan they didnt give a fukk about him

Triple h and nash shyt

Rock comes out of nowhere beats punk twice and takes his wrestlemania spot then disappears forever to hollywood

Wwr never even realized punk completely owned the rock on the MIC in that feud. Plus, if this was ever booked right. The examples of what punk provided in the next program versus the undertaker could be viewed as the greatest villain happening in WWE history. Outside of macho the ringbell and the dragon's larynx. Punk imo the greatest wrestlemania build promo ever and probably wwe's best heel promo to sell a match in wwe's actual history. This was after the rock too. Plus, punk with Brock lesnar was an incredible promo based build and the eventual match could arguably be brock's best.
When I probably outweight punk.
to put it in perspective how profound punk is/was as a talent.

I really miss cm punk, FA real.

He was the Indy heroes who saved wrasslin equalizer that yes, you can be a wrassler and one of the best and not ever look the part. Cm punk is/was a fukk'n beautiful enigma of a talent.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

It was limited because Punk coming back after a "THIS IS REAL!" angle was always gonna be underwhelming

You mean WWE inept face ass booking was always going to be underwhelming.

This company has always been inept. The only decision they ever made that made sense.
was to actually realize Hogan in child fan perception was literally a god for whooping rocky as thunder lips in segment on film in rocky III. Including had the most convincing character via gateway of all time because of that one time appearance. Coupled with eye of the tiger and the fame/draw of Mr t as a result as well. The same Mr t that if he never shows there is no wwf as we know it, period.

Plus the WWE was so inept in actually using talent worth a damn. Mr t actually looked to be superior in perception to all their talent including Hogan as well. That is how wack WWE was as a roster.
To the point I literally remember the best villain was actually Bret hart at that time via tags. Who was so viscious yet undersized, he was the only actual heel who was formidable and he was little as fukk and in tags opposite of big ass Jim anvil and made anvil look like an inept ogre from gummi bears. Plus, the WWE was built off completely unconvincing bad guys that were all ogre level dumb bad from the gummi bears worthless. That literally, till the macho man showed his real direction. WWE did better to show squash matches and reruns of Hogan beating sheik.
as their best actual quality based content in that time.

Luckily vkm was playing games with tv stations nationwide at the time. That by the time the rest of the nation saw any other wrasslin. All anyone in the general know knew about wrasslin was Hogan and nuffin else. So they had a complete jump start gateway advantage that still takes precedent over any company in wrasslin to this day via perception. Imo, if any kid was able to see magnum Ta a lot earlier nationally. Plus magnum is never subsequently injured. I don't think wwf becomes the wwf that in perception is viewed erroneously higher than the other promotions of that time.



Art Barr



Art Barr

 

[Chris Cool]

They let him go out without a script, and told him they'd pull the plug whenever he went too far. Once he started on the Be A Star thing they cut the cord. It was a shoot, but obviously they allowed it. Punk had been arguing for more freedom and opportunities and swore by his mic ability and finally Vince said fukk it, there you go.

yaw really think he could go out there and freely shyt the McMahons without Vince's permission?

 

[Golayitdown]

They took the closest thing they had to a real Austin successor and pissed it away. It caused a ripple effect that we're still reeling from today.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

They took the closest thing they had to a real Austin successor and pissed is it away. It caused a ripple effect that we're still reeling from today

For a company that loves to follow tried and tested formulas, why they wouldn't keep a loudmouth, blue collar White boy around to feud with the biracial Samoan top prospect they were looking to push, is completely and utterly beyond me.

Lord knows Roman would have learned a shyt load from him in the promo department too....

 

[Golayitdown]

For a company that loves to follow tried and tested formulas, why they wouldn't keep a loudmouth, blue collar White boy around to feud with the biracial Samoan top prospect they were looking to push, is completely and utterly beyond me.

Lord knows Roman would have learned a shyt load from him in the promo department too....

I never thought of it that way. That's a hell of an observation.

 

[TOAD99]

Has to be one of the greatest fumbles ever by the WWE

CM Punk was on fire.

His MIB crowd reaction still gives me goosebumps

I think creative would’ve handled the situation a bit better now. However, it wouldn’t be as compelling bc Cena is on the decline.

This shyt was surprising because it happened during peak Super Cena, legit didn’t know who was going to win.