San Francisco DA was recalled from office

[mastermind]

Black people will be the ones taking most of the weight of this tough on crime shyt like always. What good is tough on crime if it is only for people with “no capital and influence” like you say?

Because it’s not all black people who suffer. And in San Francisco, they’ve pretty much been priced out of town.

The people who got Bouldin ousted want to criminalize homelessnes even more.

 

[Jcotton1]

Glad to see dude's gone.

 

[Pressure]

condescending, elitist white liberals voting for what they think minority voters want. meanwhile, minorities vote against them

party is in a strange place

This is a bad take and I won't get Tinton the poor assumptions you're making.

That said, did you move to Vegas. A place with worse crime?

 

[the cac mamba]

This is a bad take and I won't get Tinton the poor assumptions you're making.

That said, did you move to Vegas. A place with worse crime?

i bought a bike last month, someone stole it off my fukkin porch plus there's too many homeless on the strip. ill probably vote accordingly

 

[storyteller]

Some of the other results in Cali are more promising for reform.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Brooke Jenkins makes wave of firings. Progressives call it 'terrifying.'

New San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins fired at least 15 people in her office on Friday, with one in particular prompting an outcry from onlookers.

www.sfgate.com

Spoiler

New San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins fired 15 people in her office on Friday, with one in particular prompting an outcry. It comes in the first week after Jenkins was appointed to her role by Mayor London Breed following the recall of Chesa Boudin.


"Today, I made difficult, but important changes to my management team and staff that will help advance my vision to restore a sense of safety in San Francisco by holding serious and repeat offenders accountable and implementing smart criminal justice reforms," Jenkins said in a statement.


Managing Attorney Arcelia Hurtado was the first member of the office to lose her job. She had served as the DA Office's representative on the city's Innocence Commission, which investigates potential wrongful convictions in the city. The commission was established by Boudin in 2020, and Jenkins signaled support for allowing it to continue in a KQED interview on Thursday.

“The decision by Brooke Jenkins to fire Arcelia Hurtado is deeply concerning, especially given the promise she made just yesterday to allow the Innocence Commission to continue to function," said University of San Francisco law professor Lara Bazelon, the chair of the commission. "Arcelia was critical to the commission’s function. It is also concerning because Arcelia was the head of the DA’s post-conviction review unit, which, among other things, is currently considering the petition by Mayor London Breed’s brother Napoleon Brown to be granted leniency and released from prison following his conviction for carjacking and manslaughter. I can see no legitimate reason for firing an attorney as rigorous, competent and ethical as Arcelia.”

Brown was sentenced to 44 years in prison for involuntary manslaughter, armed robbery and carjacking after an arrest in 2000. He is seeking re-sentencing, and Breed herself asked then-Gov. Jerry Brown in 2018 to commute his sentence. San Francisco's Ethics Commission subsequently fined her $23,000 for that infraction, among others.


The DA's office previously oversaw Brown's re-sentencing hearings; the next one is scheduled for August. Boudin and his predecessors have opposed Brown's bid for a lesser sentence. A spokesperson for Jenkins said she plans to ask the California Attorney General's Office to handle the Brown case, taking her office out of the picture.


"I'll be interested to see what she does there," Cat Brooks, co-founder of the progressive Anti Police-Terror Project said of Jenkins. "Conflict of interest and the mayor do not shock me."


Other notable staffers fired included Kate Chatfield, Boudin's chief of staff; Tal Klement, assistant chief of general crimes; Rachel Marshall, Boudin's communications director and policy advisor; Mikaela Rabinowitz, director of data, analytics and research; and Lateef Gray, managing attorney of the independent investigations bureau, the department that oversees investigations into police officers.


"I came to DA Boudin's office to fight for criminal justice reform; that battle has never felt more urgent," Marshall said in a statement. "There is no question that DA Jenkins' approach differs dramatically from my values. My passion for the mission to reform our legal system is stronger than ever and I am eager for the next opportunity to effect change."


Jenkins has repeatedly stated that she seeks to balance reform and public safety, but Brooks said she believes the firings — especially Hurtado's — are not consistent with reform.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Brooke Jenkins makes wave of firings. Progressives call it 'terrifying.'

New San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins fired at least 15 people in her office on Friday, with one in particular prompting an outcry from onlookers.

www.sfgate.com

Yep the media was about to create a certain narrative.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Between this and Eric Adams being elected Mayor in NYC, if the two most “progressive” cities can’t stomach “criminal justice reform” shyt is dead as a national platform. Really sad as there had been positive changes to undo the overcriminalization of petty crime but I fear we’re heading back to late 80’s/90’s views on crime

Rich people control the narrative and appeal to a middle-class / upper-middle-class audience. When those groups are in control, fears of crime will always vastly outweigh fears of police oppression and mass incarceration. Especially considering most of the first group are white and most of the rest are black.

Moderate justice reform is still viable in certain areas. But pervasive justice reform won't happen until poor/black/brown voters can circumvent the narrative control of the powerful above them. Neither party listens to the poor substantially or ever has.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Crime hadn't even drastically changed either...media was his downfall

Blaming Chesa Boudin for crime is empirically wrong

Five myths about progressive DAs and lawlessness, debunked

www.motherjones.com

During the last two years, in part due to the pandemic and in part due to a first-time sabbatical that my wife and I took, we spent more time visiting our parents than ever before and as a result we spent more time watching television news than ever before (at home neither of us watch TV news). The narratives on crime were extraordinary. News media were CONSTANTLY sensationalizing crime during 2021 in every way imaginable. Then on social media there are now these "community" sites where 25,000 people are posting every fukking crime they see on their block, so instead of hearing about crime from the 45-50 people in your circle you're now in a circle of 40,000+ potential victims to fearmonger. It's not surprising the public reacts a certain way.

 

[get these nets]

During the last two years, in part due to the pandemic and in part due to a first-time sabbatical that my wife and I took, we spent more time visiting our parents than ever before and as a result we spent more time watching television news than ever before (at home neither of us watch TV news). The narratives on crime were extraordinary. News media were CONSTANTLY sensationalizing crime during 2021 in every way imaginable. Then on social media there are now these "community" sites where 25,000 people are posting every fukking crime they see on their block, so instead of hearing about crime from the 45-50 people in your circle you're now in a circle of 40,000+ potential victims to fearmonger. It's not surprising the public reacts a certain way.

At this point, the registered voters and elected officials in different cities making these calls can't be dismissed/excused by media influence.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

At this point, the registered voters and elected officials in different cities making these calls can't be dismissed/excused by media influence.

Based on what?


Burglary rates are 80% lower right now than they were in 1990. But if you polled people on that question, you'd get an easy majority claiming that is more dangerous to leave you home unsecured now than it was when they were a kid. What is pushing that perception if not media and social media? Same goes for most crimes.

Look at this very case - if crime rates in San Fran were normal, why was perception completely different? Do you even have a theory?

Nightcrawler was based on obvious reality. Blasting crime and fear mongering middle-class viewers brings in ratings. Do you think they just manufactured that narrative out of thin air?

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

95% of the stuff they blamed him for was outside of his control

thats actually the case for most politicans, but people love to hate them (i know dude wasnt a politican but still)

 

[mastermind]

Based on what?


Burglary rates are 80% lower right now than they were in 1990. But if you polled people on that question, you'd get an easy majority claiming that is more dangerous to leave you home unsecured now than it was when they were a kid. What is pushing that perception if not media and social media? Same goes for most crimes.

Look at this very case - if crime rates in San Fran were normal, why was perception completely different? Do you even have a theory?

Nightcrawler was based on obvious reality. Blasting crime and fear mongering middle-class viewers brings in ratings. Do you think they just manufactured that narrative out of thin air?

@Get These Nets aligns himself with the police and elite, despite being surface-level pro-black.

 

[get these nets]

Based on what?


Burglary rates are 80% lower right now than they were in 1990. But if you polled people on that question, you'd get an easy majority claiming that is more dangerous to leave you home unsecured now than it was when they were a kid. What is pushing that perception if not media and social media? Same goes for most crimes.

Look at this very case - if crime rates in San Fran were normal, why was perception completely different? Do you even have a theory?

Nightcrawler was based on obvious reality. Blasting crime and fear mongering middle-class viewers brings in ratings. Do you think they just manufactured that narrative out of thin air?

I know you to be a reasonable poster.

San Francisco is one of the cities that voted in favor of criminal justice reform the past 3 years in the form of elected officials, public referendums, etc.

For the bad faith juelzes that I mentioned earlier to be true, these SAME electorates and elected officials had to have gotten/ become more naive, susceptible to media influence, right wing leaning, and / or racist within the past two years.

The more reasonable explanation is that the people who live, work, and raise their children in that town made decisions that were in their best interests. In both cases.

Reform of any system is a work in progress. In that city, the residents and business class see the facts on the ground and where things are trending. Public safety and crime are real issues that impact people and their families. If their personal experiences, those of their friends/colleagues, and the REALITY of their environment didn't point to a decline, no amount of fear mongering ads could convince them that it was.

Here is a piece that came out after the election. The Black lady quoted in the article echoes some of the comments I've made in this subforums in the past. Unless I'm mistaken, she is the lady shown in the OP video.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/op-ed-boudin-recall-reveals-democrats-rift-with-minority-voters/article_57ab6554-eb2d-11ec-a0d9-dfdab6d5efed.html

 

[Professor Emeritus]

For the bad faith juelzes that I mentioned earlier to be true, these SAME electorates and elected officials had to have gotten/ become more naive, susceptible to media influence, right wing leaning, and / or racist within the past two years.

The more reasonable explanation is that the people who live, work, and raise their children in that town made decisions that were in their best interests. In both cases.

No, the more reasonable, obvious explanation is that the media was on a clear "pro-Black" wave for a brief period of about May-November 2020 that reverted to a roided-up version of their normal "anti-crime" posturing in 2021.

No one became any more or less susceptible to media influence, it's just that mainstream media's attention span is shyt and willingness to defy norms is fleeting. You're disingenuously suggesting that media acted the same in 2020 as they did in 2021-22 which is patently ridiculous.

Reform of any system is a work in progress. In that city, the residents and business class see the facts on the ground and where things are trending.

Bullshyt. Not only did robbery, assault, rape, and property crime all DROP from 2019 to 2021, but the total variation is on the order of 0.1% of the population, meaning there is zero fukking chance that any residents are able to discern the "facts on the ground" based on personal experience as opposed to media narrative.

Blaming Chesa Boudin for crime is empirically wrong

Five myths about progressive DAs and lawlessness, debunked

www.motherjones.com