Sampling early 2000s beats is so lazy

[boogers]

i hate that shyt.

when Khaled got away with this shyt i knew it was over



what a fukking disgrace. i'd like to hold him down and cut his beard off.

 

[HoldThisL]

I don't have a problem producers sampling early 2000s beats, I have a problem with producers making a drill or jersey club version of the 2000s beats .

Don't get me wrong there is a few hidden gems floating around the internet but it's starting to get repetitive, and the rapping or singing on these tracks don't make it any better.

 

[JustCKing]

"BROKE THE GLASS EVERYWHERE"

HOW IN THE HELL WASNT
IT PAYING HOMAGE WHEN THEY
USED THE HOOK WORD FOR WORD
INCLUDING THE "HA HA HA HA" ADLIB?



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Because the entire essence and message (no pun) of the song is different.

 

[CHICAGO]

Because the entire essence and message (no pun) of the song is different.

NOTHING WRONG WITH PAYING HOMAGE
WHILE PUTTING YOUR OWN SWAG ON IT



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[re'up]

Interesting conversation for sure, I know I don't always like those covers or samples, from the late 90's or 2000's but I fukk with some of them. Tory Lanez came in the game doing that. I liked all that. The Khaled ones were usually wack to me.

Maybe this is a fair point, a lot of the iconic sampling done in the 90's, weren't actually rap records, likely because there weren't that many to draw from, the genre was brand new, the 2010's and 2020's are the first years where producers, who are probably about 25 years old, have a good 20 years to pull from.

Think of songs like

I'll Be Missing You
The City Is Mine
Been Around the World
I'll Be
Hard Knock Life
Feel So Good
All Eyez On Me
Street Dreams
Sunshine
The Message

some of those are R&B samples for sure. but, those are like 80's pop hits mostly. Sting and shyt. David Bowie. Broadway musical.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

the issue is the producers ain't doing shyt with the samples

they not flipping, looping or chopping shyt

but then again, the audience of today don't care, so im sure the producers and labels like "if they don't care, why should we?"


you can sample a beat from the 2000's or last year, it's not about what you sample, but how you sample it and what you do with the sample.

the lack of creativity among many is what hurting a lot of the music but it's been this way for a long time now

"ain't saying nothing new" - The Roots

Devil's advocate for a sec

They really don't have to do any flipping or chopping. If the songwriting and raps are good then it can work

Kinda like on mixtapes where rappers would take beats and make new songs outta em.

Dont get me wrong though. I prefer if they did stuff like havoc with the white lines bassline and change the whole feel of the sample but shyt could be better than now even if they don't put in that much effort

 

[I love Latina women]

Devil's advocate for a sec

They really don't have to do any flipping or chopping. If the songwriting and raps are good then it can work

Kinda like on mixtapes where rappers would take beats and make new songs outta em.

Dont get me wrong though. I prefer if they did stuff like havoc with the white lines bassline and change the whole feel of the sample but shyt could be better than now even if they don't put in that much effort

They could but where’s the fun in that if all they doing is just taking what’s already been used before and not putting their own twist on it?

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

They could but where’s the fun in that if all they doing is just taking what’s already been used before and not putting their own twist on it?

Well, if they can rap its at least entertaining from that aspect

Take game for example. He's rapped over every classic hip hop beat imaginable

That was pretty much the concept of 1992, but that was still a good album cause the bars were there even if the samples weren't tweaked with or chopped something crazy

 

[cartierhoe]

I mean this is what the old heads from the 60s and 70s were saying about hip hop in the 90s....not comparing the creativity in these modern joints with what producers were doing in the 90s, but i mean if you look at what Diddy was doing just looping 80s classics it's just as egregious.

Take hits from the 80's? But do it sound so crazy?

 

[I love Latina women]

Well, if they can rap its at least entertaining from that aspect

Take game for example. He's rapped over every classic hip hop beat imaginable

That was pretty much the concept of 1992, but that was still a good album cause the bars were there even if the samples weren't tweaked with or chopped something crazy

If an artist or artists are doing that over and over again, that shyt is boring and lazy

The Game?

 

[FunkDoc1112]

ITS NOT THE SAME WHEN ITS
THE SAME GENRE THOUGH....
THATS WHERE THE LAZINESS GETS HIGHLIGHTED.

IT COMES OFF AS A MIXTAPE TRACK
RAPPING OVER OTHER nikkaS BEATS.

PUFFY RAPPING OVER A STING TRACK
IS STILL CREATIVE BECAUSE NO ONE
RAPPED OVER THAT TRACK BEFORE.

RAPPING OVER ANOTHER
nikkaS RAP SONG THO?


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Right...like it's one thing occasionally remake an old song but even then it was guys taking small local shyt and reimagining it ie I Got 5 On it and Doin' It...but it's so ubiquitous and lazy these days. Sampling a rap beat that already had a sample to begin with is beyond lazy.

 

[Bugzbunny129]

I knew these sounded familiar. Lmao

 

[Eza]

shyt is almost always an instant skip/turn off for me.

VERY rarely does it work... and beats had already become simplified as fukk by that era, so it looks stupid as hell sampling some shyt you could've made yourself in 30 seconds.

Like, is anybody gonna be surprised when Laffy Taffy is remade in the next few years?

 

[HoldThisL]

This video popped up on my YT feed and I automatically thought of this thread. This shyt is trash.

 

[Mag Wheel]

Sampling with no drums is lazier.