You're right...but somehow someway, this new shyt is just worse than that
Figure it out lol
Guess I'm happily
Sampling early 2000s beats is so lazy
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Figure it out lol
Guess I'm happily
You're right...but somehow someway, this new shyt is just worse than that
Figure it out lol
Guess I'm happily
It's only worse because you don't like it. This is literally the same argument our elders had against Hip Hop period. It didn't matter how cleverly it was sampled, if an elder recognized it, it was an obligatory "why did they f that song up like that. That was my joint back in the day".
Stop it. As someone who was there in the 90's, those artists fed off the nostalgia in the same way. Stop trying to make exceptions just because we all like the 90's. The music was incredible, but come on. They were as guilty of sampling older records to feed off nostalgia.
ITS NOT THE SAME WHEN ITS
THE SAME GENRE THOUGH....
THATS WHERE THE LAZINESS GETS HIGHLIGHTED.
IT COMES OFF AS A MIXTAPE TRACK
RAPPING OVER OTHER nikkaS BEATS.
PUFFY RAPPING OVER A STING TRACK
IS STILL CREATIVE BECAUSE NO ONE
RAPPED OVER THAT TRACK BEFORE.
RAPPING OVER ANOTHER
nikkaS RAP SONG THO?
LOL. Puffy and Mase are literally rapping over "The Message" on the same album. Not only just the beat, but they even used the same hook just added and took away some words. This wasn't the only example. There are plenty of hit songs from the 90's where another rapper sampled another rapper and we still knew which songs it was. We loved the music, but it was still "rapping over another nikkas rap song". "Foxy's Bells" isn't an album cut that lift's LL Cool J's "Rock The Bells".
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YOURE LISTING PAYING HOMAGE SONGS BASICALLY COVERS
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Atleast back in the day producers sampled songs from other genres like Funk, Jazz, etc... These new producers just take old rap songs and slightly change the beat.
I think that there are objective patterns to support my stance if we're being real
I look at the 00s RnB samples as what Diddy and them were doing with 80s hits. Even though we loved it at the time, perspective has shown that it was a bit lame and the strong records from the Hitmen (album cuts and the like) showcased some real craft and great production on those projects
I don't think that is happening at all anymore, at least not on most majors. Aside from a handful of artists, rap albums barely even matter anymore. There ain't enough original shyt being made that will be worth sampling in 20 years at this rate
There is a
element but there's also perspective having seen trends come and go over the years
In a vacuum, this is a great point
In reality, without any of the cultural context behind sampling, the lack of resources and limited technology and access at the time, a higher barrier of entry, the need to have some technical ability etc...
The current style of sampling is hollow
Kingshango
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I think that there are objective patterns to support my stance if we're being real
I look at the 00s RnB samples as what Diddy and them were doing with 80s hits. Even though we loved it at the time, perspective has shown that it was a bit lame and the strong records from the Hitmen (album cuts and the like) showcased some real craft and great production on those projects
I don't think that is happening at all anymore, at least not on most majors. Aside from a handful of artists, rap albums barely even matter anymore. There ain't enough original shyt being made that will be worth sampling in 20 years at this rate
There is a
Diddy and them weren't the only culprits though. The 90's were rampant with songs that sampled songs that weren't THAT old.
People had the same attitude towards Hip Hop in the 80's and 90's because of the samples. I still remember people saying nobody would be sampling music from the 00's, but here we are.
"BROKE THE GLASS EVERYWHERE"HOW IN THE HELL WASNT
IT PAYING HOMAGE WHEN THEY
USED THE HOOK WORD FOR WORD
INCLUDING THE "HA HA HA HA" ADLIB?