Sam Altman is a habitual liar and can't be trusted, says former OpenAI board member

[DrBanneker]

Sam Altman's goal I think is to be some grand historic figure that creates Artificial General Intelligence for humanity and thus propel us into some divine age of transhumanism, space travel, etc. All the ethics and safety shyt are obstacles to this and he thinks that even if he played by the rules it would let someone else like China, Google or Elon scoop him.

It's an arms race at this point, the safety and ethics shyt is just window dressing to make it look like they give a fukk.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

"Some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place," the CTO said of AI's role in the workplace. "I really believe that using it as a tool for education, creativity, will expand our intelligence."

https://www.pcmag.com/news/openai-cto-mira-murati-ai-could-take-some-creative-jobs

These people are real fukking sociopaths.

 

[DrBanneker]

"Some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place," the CTO said of AI's role in the workplace. "I really believe that using it as a tool for education, creativity, will expand our intelligence."

https://www.pcmag.com/news/openai-cto-mira-murati-ai-could-take-some-creative-jobs

These people are real fukking sociopaths.

If you want to understand their misanthropy, read these books by Douglas Rushkoff

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[bnew]

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Sam Altman says the day is approaching when we can ask an AI model to solve all of physics and it can actually do that

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[Professor Emeritus]

What is that random claim even based on?[/spoiler]

 

[bnew]

What is that random claim even based on?[/spoiler]

I think they got a scaling "predictor" for the intelligence of the models they train and eventually this might our new reality.

 

[Consigliere]

These folks most likely have military and CIA types pushing them in a certain direction.

Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I think they got a scaling "predictor" for the intelligence of the models they train and eventually this might our new reality.

How would you predict what level of intelligence it would take to "solve all of physics"? We don't even know if we have the necessary information to do that in the first place.

I don't think Altman has any clue what that would entail or even what that means.

 

[Geek Nasty]

How would you predict what level of intelligence it would take to "solve all of physics"? We don't even know if we have the necessary information to do that in the first place.

I don't think Altman has any clue what that would entail or even what that means.

How much do power requirements scale with all this theoretical intelligence? AI is already stressing the grid, we're supposed to come up with power for retiring fossil fuels AND AI farms too?

 

[bnew]

How much do power requirements scale with all this theoretical intelligence? AI is already stressing the grid, we're supposed to come up with power for retiring fossil fuels AND AI farms too?

maybe AI will be used to solved it's energy needs

 

[bnew]

How would you predict what level of intelligence it would take to "solve all of physics"? We don't even know if we have the necessary information to do that in the first place.

I don't think Altman has any clue what that would entail or even what that means.

this is the way I see it possibly going, it'll be tasked with going from point A, where we currently are in our understanding of physics, to point B, where we have a complete and consistent theory of everything. the journey from A to B will likely involve an AI system that can learn from the vast amounts of existing research, identify patterns and connections that we may have missed, and generate new hypotheses and predictions that can be tested and validated. maybe a world model or something that surpasses it that can do reasonably accurate simulations. my point is I think it'll be like every task that it's given will be broken down into subtasks to fill in any knowledge gaps necessary to get to the end goal. thats basically how i think it would come up with novel solutions.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

this is the way I see it possibly going, it'll be tasked with going from point A, where we currently are in our understanding of physics, to point B, where we have a complete and consistent theory of everything. the journey from A to B will likely involve an AI system that can learn from the vast amounts of existing research, identify patterns and connections that we may have missed, and generate new hypotheses and predictions that can be tested and validated. maybe a world model or something that surpasses it that can do reasonably accurate simulations. my point is I think it'll be like every task that it's given will be broken down into subtasks to fill in any knowledge gaps necessary to get to the end goal. thats basically how i think it would come up with novel solutions.

That's possible, but we don't know if it would work and it's definitely not what Altman said.

The main reason we don't know if it would work is that we don't know if we even have the experimental data necessary to develop the theories to explain physics. It's possible that we will never have that data, there could be shyt going on at a level we can't even physically detect, and without that information we'll never be able to realize what is actually going on.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How much do power requirements scale with all this theoretical intelligence? AI is already stressing the grid, we're supposed to come up with power for retiring fossil fuels AND AI farms too?

Not to mention that, with the hyper-profit focus, OpenAI and company appear obsessed with mass distributing shytty AI before they develop any next-level AI. Which means they'll flood the world with power-sucking shyt that is hardly contributing anything other than taking people's jobs long before they build anything that will "solve global issues" (not that that will necessarily ever happen).

maybe AI will be used to solved it's energy needs

Maybe, but there isn't a great history of corporate tech solving significant issues.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Others are seeing the same thing and openly saying so in public.

One of the most powerful men in entertainment just called OpenAI's Sam Altman a 'con man' who can't be trusted​

One of the most powerful men in entertainment just called OpenAI's Sam Altman a 'con man' who can't be trusted

Endeavor CEO Ari Emanuel said OpenAI co-founder Sam Altman can't be trusted with artificial intelligence and called for government intervention.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[bnew]

That's possible, but we don't know if it would work and it's definitely not what Altman said.

The main reason we don't know if it would work is that we don't know if we even have the experimental data necessary to develop the theories to explain physics. It's possible that we will never have that data, there could be shyt going on at a level we can't even physically detect, and without that information we'll never be able to realize what is actually going on.

that's the gap in knowledge AI can be used to fill by "thinking" outside the box. make new connections or develop new science in pursuit of that goal/sub-goal. recursively solving a problem/mystery to ultimately fulfill the original objective. it's like how to get to space NASA made a number of scientific advancements and discoveries in pursuit of that goal.