Sam Altman is a habitual liar and can't be trusted, says former OpenAI board member

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didn't they say in their letter to investors that if they're successful money might not matter or have value anymore.. push the pedal to the metal. :manny:
 

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Notice that almost all the safety-conscious employees at Open AI are quitting, including the head of their alignment team, because they don't trust Altman anymore:







Since the old safety team fell apart, Open AI just formed a new one.......and it's headed by Altman himself. It's like he's laughing at everyone at this point.

This Is what worries me. They were formed with the promise they could self-destruct if they felt like they were on a dangerous path.
 

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if he's so dangerous to the company why keep him in power. the board well within their rights to get rid of him...:ld:
 

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Toner did a good job twisting the knife when it was most impactful instead of wasting her bullets when the public was on her side. There is an interesting shift in tone over the last 1-3 weeks on Altman publicly I feel like. I jumped off his fanboy ride for sure when the coup tried to out him, but there the general public has done an about face within the last month especially.


I'm not sure whether it was strategic on her part or coincidental. Some people are saying that changes in her NDA only just now allowed her to go public with those statements, and those changes may have come about due to the huge pushback Open AI was getting for their ridiculously hard NDA terms which led to Sam Altman promising to change their language.
 

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if he's so dangerous to the company why keep him in power. the board well within their rights to get rid of him...:ld:


The board did get rid of him. He bytched to his employees that the board was killing their stock options, then went crying to Microsoft (one of the major sponsors of the company) and they promised to set him up with his own company there and take all the employees with him. The board broke on this suggestion because several of them own those same options which would then become useless if everyone left. So they capitulated and let him back. Then all but one resigned and it's a bunch of yes-men now.

The current board is a clown show and won't do anything against him ever unless he tells them to. On the old board, 3 out of 4 members were seriously concerned with safety issues. The new board has no one who puts safety first and all of them have pretty much been corporate/capitalist tools.
 
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The board did get rid of him. He bytched to his employees that the board was killing their stock options, then went crying to Microsoft (one of the major sponsors of the company) and they promised to set him up with his own company there and take all the employees with him. The board broke on this suggestion because several of them own those same options which would then become useless if everyone left. So they capitulated and let him back. Then all but one resigned and it's a bunch of yes-men now.

The current board is a clown show and won't do anything against him ever unless he tells them to.

:picard: jfc
 

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This Is what worries me. They were formed with the promise they could self-destruct if they felt like they were on a dangerous path.


Yeah, basically everything they said about Open AI safety was a lie.


The "nonprofit" structure was a lie.

The "It's important that the board be able to fire me" was a lie.

The "I have no financial interest" was a lie.

The "we never threatened our employees with the NDAs" was a lie.

Appointing two board members seriously interested in ethics and a 3rd who knew the technology and its dangers deeply was all just for show.



Open AI billed itself as a company which could be trusted to do what it was doing because they cared about the safety of humanity, when really they look like even bigger pieces of shyt because they were lying about being ethical while acting exactly like all of the other profit-hungry capitalists ready to destroy the world for a buck.

At this point Congress needs to start really seriously working on oversight, but Republican idiocy has made them dysfunctional as fukk and they'll do nothing.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant overlap between Altman fanboys and (former?) Musk fanboys.

No different than Elon Musk

Anyone who has followed Altman since his Y Combinator days knows (and knew) what he thought before he became the media darling after the ChatGPT release. A couple old quotes

Earlier this year, I noticed something in China that really surprised me. I realized I felt more comfortable discussing controversial ideas in Beijing than in San Francisco. I didn’t feel completely comfortable—this was China, after all—just more comfortable than at home.

To get the really good ideas, we need to tolerate really bad and wacky ideas too....this is uncomfortable, but it’s possible we have to allow people to say disparaging things about gay people if we want them to be able to say novel things about physics. Of course we can and should say that ideas are mistaken, but we can’t just call the person a heretic. We need to debate the actual idea.
I wonder if 'gays' is really the example he and his friends have in mind? :mjpls:

From 2015
Development of superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) [1] is probably the greatest threat to the continued existence of humanity..How can we survive the development of SMI? It may not be possible. One of my top 4 favorite explanations for the Fermi paradox is that biological intelligence always eventually creates machine intelligence, which wipes out biological life and then for some reason decides to makes itself undetectable.

There are other examples like supporting eugenics and backing scholars who dabble in race realism (among other things) as supporting 'heretics' like the second quote implies
 

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Anyone who has followed Altman since his Y Combinator days knows (and knew) what he thought before he became the media darling after the ChatGPT release. A couple old quotes




I wonder if 'gays' is really the example he and his friends have in mind? :mjpls:

From 2015


There are other examples like supporting eugenics and backing scholars who dabble in race realism (among other things) as supporting 'heretics' like the second quote implies


Well that's ugly. So it could be even worse than the pure money-grubbing capitalism I assumed he was on.

A LOT of those tech lords do talk like they're on the same kinda time.
 

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More and more employees are calling him out. This looks like a total shytshow.


I'm not panicking. Larry Summers is on the board now so I am sure ethics dominates the conversations.
 
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