Ryan Coogler will officially direct black panther

[pete clemenza]

Black hero, black director, majority black casting. AAA Hollywood funding.

Hope things stay this way for this way come shooting time

 

[Easy-E]

Feige also noted that the movie would feature a "majority black cast," although the only confirmed castmember so far is Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa. The movie is set for release on July 6th, 2018

We'll see about that "majority black" stuff, but, I'm happy for the homie.

Dude seems down to earth and understand where he stands in Hollywood and where we as a people.

But, id love to see how American responds to this film.

I see it being the lowest grossing Marvel film unless they bring in a white guy to save the day and give the Black Panther an American accent.

But we'll see.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Black director and black lead
Hopefully they don't make T'Challa a fukk nikka in this flick

 

[Ziggiy]

Whoaaaa, I had to jump in here.

So you think power and doomwar was good?

Power was aight imho, but doomwar ended up being trash. Mayberry didn't do any better than Hudlin, and strictly off doomwar some can argue worse.

As far as vol 5 arcs are concerned: deadliest of the species (written by Hudlin) >>> power (Mayberry) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doomwar (Mayberry).

Doom war is the absolute WORST mental/physical/ emasculation of a character I have ever had the displeasure of reading. fukk Mayberry, fukk Hickman, fukk Marvel for taking everything Priest built and Hudlin innovated and flushing it down the shytter.


Mayberry can seriously suck my dikk.

 

[AtlienInTheGoodieMob]

Fix the tag breh, it says back excellent

 

[Birnin Zana]

I'm not saying Mayberry was some kind of next level writer, but all Hudlin had was some big ideas and no follow-up. Mayberry had to come in to give the book some kind of lifespan.

And beyond the awful editorial interference Doomwar was pretty good actually. Maybe if they had let Mayberry write it, it would've worked out better but as it stands, that's a solid story.

What big ideas did Hudlin not follow up on? And what life did Mayberry give to the book? He really didn't built up much, outside of perhaps shadow physics. Everything else, Hudlin more or less already established it in his previous work.

Mayberry's run was basically the beginning of a lot of hudlin' ideas being under attack (the marriage, wakanda being undefeated for thousands of years, etc).

Doomwar had very few good moments, but the story is still trash. If Hudlin wrote that, you would be shytting on him even more.

 

[Zero]

If that mouse fukks this up

 

[Birnin Zana]

Doom war is the absolute WORST mental/physical/ emasculation of a character I have ever had the displeasure of reading. fukk Mayberry, fukk Hickman, fukk Marvel for taking everything Priest built and Hudlin innovated and flushing it down the shytter.


Mayberry can seriously suck my dikk.

I just realized, if Shuri doesn't come back in the ANAD universe, basically everything noteworthy Hudlin would be gone.

 

[TheGodling]

What big ideas did Hudlin not follow up on? And what life did Mayberry give to the book? He really didn't built up much, outside of perhaps shadow physics. Everything else, Hudlin more or less already established it in his previous work.

Mayberry's run was basically the beginning of a lot of hudlin' ideas being under attack (the marriage, wakanda being undefeated for thousands of years, etc).

And Where did you find the claims of editorial interference? I remember Mayberry specifically talking about doomwar, and he said that during the planning of the story that he changed the story from a BP story to a doom story featuring BP characters, hence why we got the bs that we got.

Doomwar had very few good moments, but the story is still trash. If Hudlin wrote that, you would be shytting on him even more.

Hudlin didn't follow up on anything, that's why Mayberry had to take over the book. Hudlin introduced Shuri as the new Panther and pretty much announced his departure from the book right after. So why even introduce a new character and make her Panther if you're not going to see it through? Hudlin just did "big changes" like the marriage and Shuri becoming Panther because those changes drew attention, not because he had any interest in telling a story.

There's a bunch of interviews with Mayberry where he explained that editorial told him he couldn't use the X-Men after already having them appear in the first issues because of their own event, so he had to write them out in ham fisted fashion. Then they forced him to do an extended recap midway through the story for "new readers" (because everybody picks up stories midway through), as well as being told to use Deadpool in the story because Marvel was pushing him heavy around that time. That's one of the reasons the final issues were so rushed because they kept forcing Mayberry to include stuff he didn't plan for.

Doom war is the absolute WORST mental/physical/ emasculation of a character I have ever had the displeasure of reading. fukk Mayberry, fukk Hickman, fukk Marvel for taking everything Priest built and Hudlin innovated and flushing it down the shytter.


Mayberry can seriously suck my dikk.

Mayberry made T'Challa look strong in "defeat", I have no idea what you're talking about. And it's funny you say 'fukk Hickman' like Aaron wasn't the one who had Namor destroy Wakanda with a single tidal wave and ruined Storm and T'Challa's marriage in AvX, which led to this beauty of a scene.

Yeah, it was Mayberry and Hickman who ruined T'Challa, not the dudes who had him beg Storm not to fukk Wolverine like a bytch-ass simp.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Mayberry made T'Challa look strong in "defeat", I have no idea what you're talking about. And it's funny you say 'fukk Hickman' like Aaron wasn't the one who had Namor destroy Wakanda with a single tidal wave and ruined Storm and T'Challa's marriage in AvX, which led to this beauty of a scene.

Yeah, it was Mayberry and Hickman who ruined T'Challa, not the dudes who had him beg Storm not to fukk Wolverine like a bytch-ass simp.

I'll do the honors: fukk Aaron and editorial for the AxV bullshyt. shyt was and still is disgusting to read. I cringe every time I see AxV panels with T'Challa and Ororo in it.

Hickman: good writer overall. Crafted a good story. But made T'Challa look like an idiot and a bytch to make it happen. I can't fukk with that.

Hudlin didn't follow up on anything, that's why Mayberry had to take over the book. Hudlin introduced Shuri as the new Panther and pretty much announced his departure from the book right after. So why even introduce a new character and make her Panther if you're not going to see it through? Hudlin just did "big changes" like the marriage and Shuri becoming Panther because those changes drew attention, not because he had any interest in telling a story.

There's a bunch of interviews with Mayberry where he explained that editorial told him he couldn't use the X-Men after already having them appear in the first issues because of their own event, so he had to write them out in ham fisted fashion. Then they forced him to do an extended recap midway through the story for "new readers" (because everybody picks up stories midway through), as well as being told to use Deadpool in the story because Marvel was pushing him heavy around that time. That's one of the reasons the final issues were so rushed because they kept forcing Mayberry to include stuff he didn't plan for.

Shuri was already there since the beginning of his run. She was even featured in previous story arcs, though not as prominently as vol. 5.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the marriage. Based on previous issues, I felt the relationship between T'Challa and Ororo was going in its natural course. My only issue with the marriage was its initial execution.

Hudlin left, among other things, because Alonso was no longer his editor (he moved up to E-I-C), if I recall correctly. I too wish he stayed for the rest of the arc, we might have had something different.

Good point on the recap, I remember hearing about that. With that said, the bottomline: Doomwar, overall, was not a good story. At all. And knowing how Hudlin gets beat up for a bunch of stuff he did (rightfully or not), if he was the one to write Doomwar, a lot of people wouldn't give a shyt about potential editorial interference. They would go in on him even harder.

 

[TheGodling]

I'll do the honors: fukk Aaron and editorial for the AxV bullshyt. syt was and still is disgusting to read. I cringe every time I see AxV panels with T'Challa and Ororo in it.

Hickman: good writer overall. Crafted a good story. But made T'Challa look like an idiot and a bytch to make it happen. I can't fukk with that.



Shuri was already there since the beginning of his run. She was even featured in previous story arcs, though not as prominently as vol. 5.

Hudlin left, among other things, because Alonso was no longer his editor (he moved up to E-I-C), if I recall correctly. I too wish he stayed for the rest of the arc, we might have had something different.

Good point on the recap, I remember hearing about that. With that said, the bottomline: Doomwar, overall, was not a good story. At all. And knowing how Hudlin gets beat up for a bunch of stuff he did (rightfully or not), if he was the one to write Doomwar, a lot of people wouldn't give a shyt about editorial interference. They would go in on him even harder.

Yeah, I meant Shuri becoming Black Panther. Seeing as he pretty much stepped away from the book after that arc, it seemed he just had no follow-up idea for that change.

I'll stand by that Doomwar was pretty good. It might've been more of a Doom story than a Black Panther story but frankly, no empire lasts forever and T'Challa took the inevitable "L" on his own terms.

And Hickman did everything he could to salvage T'Challa after the events AvX completely ruined him and Wakanda without flat-out ignoring continuity or simply retconning the whole shyt.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

the fukk is yall talkin about?

is this nikka the director or not??

 

[Birnin Zana]

Yeah, I meant Shuri becoming Black Panther. Seeing as he pretty much stepped away from the book after that arc, it seemed he just had no follow-up idea for that change.

I respectfully strongly disagree with a lot of your points (not counting T'Challa taking an L. I have no problem with that). Don't wanna derail the thread. Let's continue this debate in the BP thread: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/official-black-panther-mcu-thread-with-bp-civil-war-footage.343550/

Will tag you when I've posted there.

 

[Birnin Zana]

the fukk is yall talkin about?

is this nikka the director or not??

It's looking likely, but no official confirmation yet. We're still waiting for the word.

 

[Ziggiy]

Hudlin didn't follow up on anything, that's why Mayberry had to take over the book. Hudlin introduced Shuri as the new Panther and pretty much announced his departure from the book right after. So why even introduce a new character and make her Panther if you're not going to see it through? Hudlin just did "big changes" like the marriage and Shuri becoming Panther because those changes drew attention, not because he had any interest in telling a story.

There's a bunch of interviews with Mayberry where he explained that editorial told him he couldn't use the X-Men after already having them appear in the first issues because of their own event, so he had to write them out in ham fisted fashion. Then they forced him to do an extended recap midway through the story for "new readers" (because everybody picks up stories midway through), as well as being told to use Deadpool in the story because Marvel was pushing him heavy around that time. That's one of the reasons the final issues were so rushed because they kept forcing Mayberry to include stuff he didn't plan for.



Mayberry made T'Challa look strong in "defeat", I have no idea what you're talking about. And it's funny you say 'fukk Hickman' like Aaron wasn't the one who had Namor destroy Wakanda with a single tidal wave and ruined Storm and T'Challa's marriage in AvX, which led to this beauty of a scene.

Yeah, it was Mayberry and Hickman who ruined T'Challa, not the dudes who had him beg Storm not to fukk Wolverine like a bytch-ass simp.

Actually I forgot to add Aaron into my rant because I completely and utterly REFUSE to acknowledge his existence. My beef with everyone after Hudlin is that they went through GREAT pains to deconstruct and emasculate him. You say that Doomwar made T'Challa "stronger in defeat" is absolute horse shyt. It's the same as people trying to justify making the black character a cowardly, bytch made loser in The Force Awakens who fails at every single endeavor. The T'Challa that Priest and Hudlon wrote would NEVER EVER have been stripped of his pride and regality in such a disgusting fashion.



You have forced me to relive painful memories of bleeding eyeballs and mental anguish as I read that panel. That is NOT T'Challa begging Ororoe not to bed-wench with Logan. The T'Challa that I read doesn't allow Doom to walk into Wakanda and literally laugh while raping it's precious resources (while rendering it "inert" and praising Doom on kicking his ass) the T'Challa that I read doesn't make promises to kill Namor and then fail to follow up. The T'Challa that I read doesn't SINK to his hands and knees CRYING after being scolded by his father.



It's too early for me to be getting angry about comic books. But again I will,say this and I mean it with every single fiber of my being.

fukk Mayberry
fukk Hickman
fukk Aaron


Every single writer after Hudlin gave T'Challa NOTHING but L's. To the point of writing him completely out of character JUST to have him take an L.