Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)
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Yall still think russia is gonna collapse
Breh, even Iraq didn't collapse when we went in there and took out their leader and broke their military's back.
Russia would have to collapse from the inside and I don't see any inkling that it will happen.
Iraq didn't collapse?
Saddam and his sons were found hiding in holes.
Saddam was hung and recorded on a flip phone.
who was in charge of Iraq before the US invasion?
Sadadm
whoever the fukk is in charge right now bookmarked.
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
saw some photos of Ukraine pulling a Russian tank out of a river yesterday, the crew was still inside
Link?
Where are the photos?saw some photos of Ukraine pulling a Russian tank out of a river yesterday, the crew was still inside
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Link?
photos were pretty brutal idk if they're still on twitter
Ukraine’s emergency services drag submerged Russian tank from river
Guess they sat there for a month
you can make out two of the crew members in the first photo, the photos I saw yesterday were close ups
Oh look. Just like I said.
War in Ukraine Compounds Hunger in East Africa
War in Ukraine Compounds Hunger in East Africa
The conflict has driven up the cost of food in a region that depends heavily on crops from Russia and Ukraine and is facing what could be its worst drought in four decades.
April 1, 2022Updated 1:26 p.m. ET
People in Somalia who fled drought-stricken areas arrive at a makeshift camp on the outskirts of the capital, Mogadishu, in February. The drought has left nearly a third of the country’s population hungry.Farah Abdi Warsameh/Associated Press
NAIROBI, Kenya — First came the drought, drying up rivers, and claiming the lives of two of Ruqiya Hussein Ahmed’s children as her family fled the barren countryside in southwest Somalia.
Then came the war in Ukraine, pushing food prices so high that even after making it to the outskirts of the capital, Mogadishu, she is struggling to keep her two other children alive.
“Even here, we have nothing,” she said.
Across East Africa, below-average rainfall has created some of the driest conditions in four decades, according to the United Nations, leaving more than 13 million people facing severe hunger. Seasonal harvests have hit their lowest in decades, malnourished children are filling hospitals and many families are walking long distances to find help.
The devastating drought has blanketed most of Somalia, leaving nearly a third of the population hungry. In neighboring Kenya, the drought has left more than three million people short of food and killed more than 1.5 million livestock.
The Iftin Camp for internally displaced people outside Baradere town, in Somalia’s Jubaland state, in March.Feisal Omar/Reuters
And in Ethiopia, where a civil war has impeded aid delivery into the northern Tigray region, food insecurity is more widespread than at any time in the last six years. The first food aid to Tigray in three months arrived on Friday.
Now, the war in Ukraine is making the crisis even worse by raising the price of grains, fuel and fertilizer.
Russia and Ukraine are some of the region’s top suppliers of agricultural commodities such as wheat, soybeans and barley. At least 14 African countries import half of their wheat from Russia and Ukraine, according to the Food and Agriculture Organization. Eritrea depends on them entirely for its wheat imports.
“The conflict in Ukraine is compounding an already complicated situation in East Africa,” Gabriela Bucher, the executive director for the charity organization Oxfam International, said in a phone interview. “East Africa is not on the global agenda now, but the region needs the solidarity of the international community and it needs it now.”
The devastating drought and the war in Ukraine are amplified by a series of crises over the past two years.
People in Baidoa, Somalia wait for water at one of the 500 camps for internally displaced people. The drought has driven many from their homes and into camps.Yasuyoshi Chiba/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
The coronavirus pandemic has disrupted food supply chains and forced many families to pay higher prices for food staples. The locust infestation in Kenya, the civil war in Ethiopia, extreme flooding in South Sudan, the political crises and growing terrorist attacks in Somalia, and the intensifying ethnic conflict in Sudanhave all contributed to the destruction of farms, the depletion of harvests and a worsening food crisis, aid groups say.
The war in Ukraine, which is in its second month, is expected to cause further spikes in food costs across the region. The conflict, depending on how long it lasts, could reduce “the quantity and quality” of staples like wheat, said Sean Granville-Ross, the regional director for Africa at Mercy Corps, a nongovernmental organization.
“Meeting the basic needs of vulnerable drought-affected populations will become more expensive and challenging,” he said.
That ominous outcome is already evident in many parts of the region.
In Somalia, the price of a 20-liter container of cooking oil has increased to $55 from $32, while 25 kilograms of beans now go for $28 instead of $18, according to data gathered by Mercy Corps.
In Sudan, the price of bread has nearly doubled, and some bakeries have closed because wheat imports have dropped by 60 percent since the beginning of the war, according to Elsadig Elnour, the Sudan country director for the charity organization Islamic Relief.
Employees package bread at a bakery in Khartoum, Sudan, last month, as food prices rise across Sudan and the region because of the conflict in Ukraine.Ashraf Shazly/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Kenya, citing the war in Ukraine, also raised the price of fuel, leading to protests in parts of the country.
When famine hits, children are particularly vulnerable. An estimated 5.5 million children in the region are facing high levels of malnutrition from the drought, according to World Vision, a Christian aid organization.
“My children died of hunger. They suffered,” said Ms. Ahmed, whose children, aged 3 and 4, died during her days-long trek from her home in Adde Ali village in the Lower Shabelle region to the outskirts of Mogadishu. “They died under a tree.”
In Mogadishu, families are already feeling the ripple effects of the war in Ukraine, with rising food prices squeezing household budgets as the holy month of Ramadan approaches. With no job, proper shelter or access to the beans, maize and tomatoes she once farmed, Ms. Ahmed now relies on food donations from well-wishers to feed her two surviving children, ages 7 and 9.
And aid programs are stretched thin. The war has affected the operations of the World Food Program, which this month said it had reduced rations for refugees and others in East Africa and the Middle East because of rising costs and depleting funds.
Bodies of giraffes in Sabuli Wildlife Conservancy in Wajir County, Kenya in December. The giraffes, weak from lack of food and water, died after getting stuck in mud as they tried to drink from a nearly dried up reservoir nearby.Getty Images
Some fear that the continued drought in East Africa could come to resemble the one in 2011, which killed about 260,000 people in Somalia alone. While the situation hasn’t reached that level yet, the funding and resources needed to avert such a crisis have not yet begun to flow, Ms. Bucher of Oxfam said.
Just 3 percent of the $6 billion the U.N. needs this year for Ethiopia, Somalia and South Sudan has been allocated, she said, while Kenya has only secured 11 percent of the $139 million needed for assistance.
Last week, the African Development Bank said it would raise up to $1 billion to improve agricultural production and help Africans become self-sufficient in food in the long run. But while these initiatives are welcome, Ms. Bucher said it was imperative that donors also give unsparingly and immediately to avert a much wider crisis.
“The world needs to come to the rescue of East Africa to avert a catastrophe,” she said.
Workers clean the floor as sacks of food earmarked for the Tigray and Afar regions in Ethiopia sit in piles in a warehouse of the World Food Programme in Semera, the capital of the Afar region, in Ethiopia in February.Associated Press
Hussein Mohamed contributed reporting from Mogadishu, Somalia.
Abdi Latif Dahir is the East Africa correspondent. He joined The Times in 2019 after covering East Africa for Quartz for three years. He lives in Nairobi, Kenya. @Lattif
War in Ukraine Compounds Hunger in East Africa
War in Ukraine Compounds Hunger in East Africa
The conflict has driven up the cost of food in a region that depends heavily on crops from Russia and Ukraine and is facing what could be its worst drought in four decades.
April 1, 2022Updated 1:26 p.m. ET
People in Somalia who fled drought-stricken areas arrive at a makeshift camp on the outskirts of the capital, Mogadishu, in February. The drought has left nearly a third of the country’s population hungry.Farah Abdi Warsameh/Associated Press
NAIROBI, Kenya — First came the drought, drying up rivers, and claiming the lives of two of Ruqiya Hussein Ahmed’s children as her family fled the barren countryside in southwest Somalia.
Then came the war in Ukraine, pushing food prices so high that even after making it to the outskirts of the capital, Mogadishu, she is struggling to keep her two other children alive.
“Even here, we have nothing,” she said.
Across East Africa, below-average rainfall has created some of the driest conditions in four decades, according to the United Nations, leaving more than 13 million people facing severe hunger. Seasonal harvests have hit their lowest in decades, malnourished children are filling hospitals and many families are walking long distances to find help.
The devastating drought has blanketed most of Somalia, leaving nearly a third of the population hungry. In neighboring Kenya, the drought has left more than three million people short of food and killed more than 1.5 million livestock.
The Iftin Camp for internally displaced people outside Baradere town, in Somalia’s Jubaland state, in March.Feisal Omar/Reuters
And in Ethiopia, where a civil war has impeded aid delivery into the northern Tigray region, food insecurity is more widespread than at any time in the last six years. The first food aid to Tigray in three months arrived on Friday.
Now, the war in Ukraine is making the crisis even worse by raising the price of grains, fuel and fertilizer.
Russia and Ukraine are some of the region’s top suppliers of agricultural commodities such as wheat, soybeans and barley. At least 14 African countries import half of their wheat from Russia and Ukraine, according to the Food and Agriculture Organization. Eritrea depends on them entirely for its wheat imports.
“The conflict in Ukraine is compounding an already complicated situation in East Africa,” Gabriela Bucher, the executive director for the charity organization Oxfam International, said in a phone interview. “East Africa is not on the global agenda now, but the region needs the solidarity of the international community and it needs it now.”
The devastating drought and the war in Ukraine are amplified by a series of crises over the past two years.
People in Baidoa, Somalia wait for water at one of the 500 camps for internally displaced people. The drought has driven many from their homes and into camps.Yasuyoshi Chiba/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
The coronavirus pandemic has disrupted food supply chains and forced many families to pay higher prices for food staples. The locust infestation in Kenya, the civil war in Ethiopia, extreme flooding in South Sudan, the political crises and growing terrorist attacks in Somalia, and the intensifying ethnic conflict in Sudanhave all contributed to the destruction of farms, the depletion of harvests and a worsening food crisis, aid groups say.
The war in Ukraine, which is in its second month, is expected to cause further spikes in food costs across the region. The conflict, depending on how long it lasts, could reduce “the quantity and quality” of staples like wheat, said Sean Granville-Ross, the regional director for Africa at Mercy Corps, a nongovernmental organization.
“Meeting the basic needs of vulnerable drought-affected populations will become more expensive and challenging,” he said.
That ominous outcome is already evident in many parts of the region.
In Somalia, the price of a 20-liter container of cooking oil has increased to $55 from $32, while 25 kilograms of beans now go for $28 instead of $18, according to data gathered by Mercy Corps.
In Sudan, the price of bread has nearly doubled, and some bakeries have closed because wheat imports have dropped by 60 percent since the beginning of the war, according to Elsadig Elnour, the Sudan country director for the charity organization Islamic Relief.
Employees package bread at a bakery in Khartoum, Sudan, last month, as food prices rise across Sudan and the region because of the conflict in Ukraine.Ashraf Shazly/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Kenya, citing the war in Ukraine, also raised the price of fuel, leading to protests in parts of the country.
When famine hits, children are particularly vulnerable. An estimated 5.5 million children in the region are facing high levels of malnutrition from the drought, according to World Vision, a Christian aid organization.
“My children died of hunger. They suffered,” said Ms. Ahmed, whose children, aged 3 and 4, died during her days-long trek from her home in Adde Ali village in the Lower Shabelle region to the outskirts of Mogadishu. “They died under a tree.”
In Mogadishu, families are already feeling the ripple effects of the war in Ukraine, with rising food prices squeezing household budgets as the holy month of Ramadan approaches. With no job, proper shelter or access to the beans, maize and tomatoes she once farmed, Ms. Ahmed now relies on food donations from well-wishers to feed her two surviving children, ages 7 and 9.
And aid programs are stretched thin. The war has affected the operations of the World Food Program, which this month said it had reduced rations for refugees and others in East Africa and the Middle East because of rising costs and depleting funds.
Bodies of giraffes in Sabuli Wildlife Conservancy in Wajir County, Kenya in December. The giraffes, weak from lack of food and water, died after getting stuck in mud as they tried to drink from a nearly dried up reservoir nearby.Getty Images
Some fear that the continued drought in East Africa could come to resemble the one in 2011, which killed about 260,000 people in Somalia alone. While the situation hasn’t reached that level yet, the funding and resources needed to avert such a crisis have not yet begun to flow, Ms. Bucher of Oxfam said.
Just 3 percent of the $6 billion the U.N. needs this year for Ethiopia, Somalia and South Sudan has been allocated, she said, while Kenya has only secured 11 percent of the $139 million needed for assistance.
Last week, the African Development Bank said it would raise up to $1 billion to improve agricultural production and help Africans become self-sufficient in food in the long run. But while these initiatives are welcome, Ms. Bucher said it was imperative that donors also give unsparingly and immediately to avert a much wider crisis.
“The world needs to come to the rescue of East Africa to avert a catastrophe,” she said.
Workers clean the floor as sacks of food earmarked for the Tigray and Afar regions in Ethiopia sit in piles in a warehouse of the World Food Programme in Semera, the capital of the Afar region, in Ethiopia in February.Associated Press
Hussein Mohamed contributed reporting from Mogadishu, Somalia.
Abdi Latif Dahir is the East Africa correspondent. He joined The Times in 2019 after covering East Africa for Quartz for three years. He lives in Nairobi, Kenya. @Lattif
Left there by comradesphotos were pretty brutal idk if they're still on twitter
Ukraine’s emergency services drag submerged Russian tank from river
Guess they sat there for a month
you can make out two of the crew members in the first photo, the photos I saw yesterday were close ups
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Iraq didn't collapse?
Saddam and his sons were found hiding in holes.
Saddam was hung and recorded on a flip phone.
who was in charge of Iraq before the US invasion?
Sadadm
bookmarked.
Come on breh, you've been talking about Russia breaking up into smaller nations. Iraq didn't break up. One could argue that its because we were there with the intent to keep the nation from falling apart after taking charge but my point still stands.
A nation has to fall apart from the inside. Russia is showing no signs of that. It's just the opposite. Putin is consolidating power and his people are firmly behind the war effort now.
I took a couple of days off from this thread to be a part of the conversation on Will Smith, but I still know my geopolitics, breh
photos were pretty brutal idk if they're still on twitter
Ukraine’s emergency services drag submerged Russian tank from river
Guess they sat there for a month
you can make out two of the crew members in the first photo, the photos I saw yesterday were close ups
Bad for morale when you just leave your soldiers to rot....Russia basically treats its soldiers as fodder...
Even in America a grunt is still a grunt but there is honor among them...they know they're just a body for some suit to send into a fight but the soldiers or Marines themselves don't treat each other like that.
Just because Putin treats you as fodder don't mean you treat your fellow comrade like fodder..
I hope Russian morale continues to suffer...
I somewhat feel bad for the brehs who got drafted and didn'teven know they were invading Ukraine.
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From "With the Old Breed"
"And everywhere there remained the dead. The Marines, devoted to each other even in death, always covered the faces and bodies of their brothers with ponchos as soon as they could and tried their hardest to move their fallen brothers as quickly as possible to the rear, where the graves registration staff would take care of them. The American forces desperately strived to tend to their dead as soon as they could, because if the enemy found them first, they would mutilate the corpses. One of the most shocking experiences Sledge had on Peleliu happened when he came upon several dead Marines the Japanese had already gotten to. One had been decapitated; one had had his hands severed and placed on his chest; and one had had his penis sliced off and stuffed into his mouth.
The killed Japanese, however, were left to rot where they fell, their faces frozen in the expressions made at the moment of death. Lacking soil with which to cover the bodies even partially, they were completely exposed to the elements. Because the Marines rotated in and out of the same positions, the corpses then became a kind of macabre landmark. As Sledge remembers: “It was gruesome to see the stages of decay proceed from just killed, to bloated, to maggot-infested rotting, to partially exposed bones — like some biological clock marking the inexorable passage of time.”
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Come on breh, you've been talking about Russia breaking up into smaller nations. Iraq didn't break up. One could argue that its because we were there with the intent to keep the nation from falling apart after taking charge but my point still stands.
A nation has to fall apart from the inside. Russia is showing no signs of that. It's just the opposite. Putin is consolidating power and his people are firmly behind the war effort now.
I took a couple of days off from this thread to be a part of the conversation on Will Smith, but I still know my geopolitics, breh
It seems that way for now. But when those Russian mothers start to ask what happened to their sons, and Putin won't tell them shyt - it'll be
scenes like their war with Afghanistan
gldnone913
Integrity and Consistency
Looking at terrain maps it looks like it will be a lot easier to connect with Kharkiv vs Mariupol. It’s just in a strategically bad spot. The land closest to the next nearest large city is open ground. This can lead to some of the same issues the Russians had beyond the border cities, when they bypassed them.
It would take solid air support to try to break the cordon and any blocking positions around Mariupol without having to worry about getting fukked over on the main roads and open fields. I assume Russia can concentrate artillery and armor in those areas since everyone else in the east has been tied up non-stop.
Yall still think russia is gonna collapse
Breh, even Iraq didn't collapse when we went in there and took out their leader and broke their military's back.
Russia would have to collapse from the inside and I don't see any inkling that it will happen.
You’re right as much as Iraq tried to break into three parts it was held together until 07-08 when the sectarian wars chilled out. I remember some ideas coming up about the country turning into 3, bordered by sectarian lines.
Culturally I don’t see Russia ever breaking up. Unity and a single authority are a big part of who they are.
The HBO show “the pacific” depicted a lot of what Sledge wrote in this book. There’s too much romanticizing of WWII. Really looking into how brutal shyt got puts things in perspective. A lot of the same things modern service members deal with were found there too. Even suicide bombers and insurgencies.