Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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I have no idea how Putin avoids civilian unrest in the very short term. Doesn't seem he has enough support from anyone to go full Stalin on his own people (and it's harder to do that kind of fukked up shyt in this day and age anyway).
 

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Someone explain this to me :lupe:







Russian President Vladimir Putin started sending troops to Ukraine on Thursday for a "military operation". US President Joe Biden, however, said that he won't put US boots on the ground to defend the eastern European nation. Biden has, so far, only threatened Russia with economic sanctions against launching an attack into Ukraine.

However, even that is not panning out the way Biden would have liked as the European Union (EU) is not on the same page concerning SWIFT -- The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication. An important facilitator of international banking, SWIFT is used by more than 11,000 financial institutions and companies in over 200 countries and territories.

What is SWIFT?


SWIFT is a Belgium-based co-operative and is overseen by multiple government banking systems -- the European Central Bank, the National Bank of Belgium, and the US Federal Reserve System, among others.

Founded in 1973 to end reliance on the telex system, SWIFT is an international system used to send written messages, including orders and confirmations for payments, trades, and currency exchanges.

It's like Gmail for banks and international financial institutions. On an average, SWIFT delivers 40 million messages per day and facilitates trillions of dollars worth of transactions.

How will Russia be impacted if removed from SWIFT?

Without being able to access SWIFT, Russian banks would have to rely on outdated tech like fax and email for cross-border transactions. This would not only impede the pace of the process but also make it more costly. As a consequence, Russia's ability to participate in global trade would be hampered a great deal.

Given the heavy reliance of global financial institutions on SWIFT, some experts have said that preventing Russia from using the network would be equivalent to a nuclear attack on the country's economy. In a tweet, US lawmaker Senator Marsha Blackburn wrote, "We pray for the people of Ukraine as they defend against Putin’s attempt to rebuild the old Soviet Union. Biden must stand up to Putin and immediately levy severe sanctions against Russia — starting with removal from the SWIFT banking system. The USA stands with Ukraine."
We pray for the people of Ukraine as they defend against Putin’s attempt to rebuild the old Soviet Union. Biden must stand up to Putin and immediately levy severe sanctions against Russia — starting with removal from the SWIFT banking system.

The USA stands with Ukraine. — Sen. Marsha Blackburn (@MarshaBlackburn) February 24, 2022In 2014 too, when Russia annexed Crimea, the proposal of isolating Russia from the SWIFT network was floated. The then Russian finance minister had estimated that the country would suffer a potential GDP contraction of 5 percent if the US and its European allies exercise the option to cut off Russia from the SWIFT network. In 2020, Russia accounted for 1.5 percent of total transactions on SWIFT.

Will Russia be removed from SWIFT?

When asked if the proposal to remove Russia from SWIFT is being considered, Biden said, "It is always an option. But right now, that's not the position that the rest of Europe wishes to take."

The primary reason behind Europe's reluctance to remove Russia from SWIFT is its reliance on Russia for oil and gas. Currently, the EU depends on Russia for around 40 percent of its gas needs. Meanwhile, Russia has also issued a warning saying the flow of gas and oil would be immediately stopped without payment.

Nonetheless, the foreign ministers of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have all expressed interest in booting Russia from SWIFT. If more leaders join in, Russia's removal from SWIFT may well become a possibility.

Russia's counter

As is well-known, the economic sanctions put on Russia after 2014 made Putin fix the chinks in his armour. Over the last eight years, he has turned Russia into an economic fortress, and sanctions can only cause the country limited harm now.

At present, Russia has a massive amount of forex reserves and its debt-to-GDP ratio is only around 10 percent. In comparison, the US has a debt-to-GDP ratio of nearly 130 percent. Not to forget, Russia has become a big oil and gas supplier.

Among other things, Russia also came up with an alternative to SWIFT. The country developed SPFS -- the financial messaging system of the Bank of Russia. Currently, SPFS has 400 users and the system handles about a fifth of domestic payments. In a statement on SPFS, Russia's central bank said, “This is a reliable and secure channel for sending electronic messages on financial transactions."
 

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Someone explain this to me :lupe:
A SWIFT explanation

You’re probably hearing and reading a lot about SWIFT these days. Those who want stronger sanctions on Russia for invading Ukraine say that the US and Europe should exclude Russia from SWIFT. Others caution against taking a step that is considered a nuclear option (economically speaking!).

So, what is it? SWIFT is the acronym for Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, a global network for payments between banks. It’s sort of like a gigantic messaging system. Some 11,000 banks, in just about every country in the world, use SWIFT to facilitate money transfers across borders. The system processes roughly 42 million transactions a day.

Who owns SWIFT? The system is run out of Belgium, under the direction of two dozen national central banks, including the US Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank. Its 25-member board of directors currently has a Russian rep. But the Americans are the most influential member country, which in the past has allowed the US to exclude hostile nations like Cuba, Myanmar, North Korea, and Iran.

What happens if Russia is kicked out? It would swing a wrecking ball through the Russian economy and financial system, making it almost impossible for Russians and Russian companies to do electronic business with banks or companies in other countries. Former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin once estimated that losing access to SWIFT alone would cause Russian GDP to shrink 5%. Crucially, losing SWIFT access could complicate Russia’s ability to take payment for natural gas shipments to Europe. Virtually overnight, the Kremlin would lose its largest gas consumer, and the Europeans would lose their largest source of energy imports. (This is why some Europeans are skittish about booting Russia from SWIFT.)

Does Vladimir Putin have an alternative? Yes, sort of. Russia has its own financial electronic payments system called SFPS. The problem is that SFPS — established in 2014, when the Kremlin feared expulsion from SWIFT for annexing Crimea — has few users and even fewer foreign members. The Russians have been in talks with the Chinese to set up another SWIFT-alternative network, but the project is still at a very early stage.
 

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Russia taking L's right now :wow:
Romania bans Russian airlines from flying in its airspace – FM
Romania bans Russian airlines from flying in its airspace – FM
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Romania bans Russian airlines from flying in its airspace – FM
Romania has banned Russian airlines from flying in its airspace, Romanian Foreign Minister Bogdan Aurescu has said.

"Romania just joined other EU member states in banning Russian airlines from our airspace. Romania encourages all partners & allies to take such action, as we stay resolute in our support for #UkraineUnderAttack. Ukraine is not alone & sanctioning Russia's aggression is needed #StandWithUkraine," Aurescu wrote in Twitter on Saturday.
Delta airlines terminated its partnership with Aerflot airlines too.. The entire globe putting the beats on Russia :mjlol:
 

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I think the sad reality we need to face is that with Putin in this mental state l, we are looking at WW3. Some consideration needs to be given to what is required to remove him from power.
I don’t think Russia would attack other NATO nations. 80% of his soldiers are surrounding Ukraine. If he strikes, his country is truly wide-open from several angles.

(To be fair, i also didn’t think he would invade ukraine)
I don't think we've addressed just how many military resources he committed to this :picard:
 
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