Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

[Orbital-Fetus]

Right. The US Navy looked at the F-22 and said there’s no need for this. It is ridiculously OP compared to everything else (also very expensive).

I don't know the story of the F-22 and the Navy, gotta look it up.

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

I used google street view and the grand concourse looks like the final boss of walking 4 blocks from the train station to fukk a Puerto Rican woman you met at a corner store, 9 hours ago, hoping not to get robbed.

That sounds about right but I meant the architecture, street layout, planning, etc.

 

[[Something Cool]]

I don't know the story of the F-22 and the Navy, gotta look it up.

I misspoke, it's the Airforce (the Navy is on F-35s and Super Hornets I believe). Since long-range missies get in the way of the need for stealth, the Airforce would rather modernize F-15s. Which is get high get fast fukk around and find out. Like the F-14 (my favorite).

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

New AH-64 Apache Concept Features Bigger Wings For More Weapons

Boeing has unveiled its 'Modernized Apache' that can carry more weapons, has increased range and speed, and other improvements.

www.thedrive.com

Hellfire Missile With Roughly Three Times More Range Tested By MQ-9

The new AGM-114R-4 could give the MQ-9 much needed additional standoff capabilities and could also greatly benefit a host of other platforms.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Cuban Pete]

I'm not sure what difference an "official" declaration of war would make, considering they're already throwing their entire army at it, doing mobilization, etc. And they probably have more to lose by calling arms suppliers "fair game" than they would gain. They'd already be attacking arms suppliers now if they weren't afraid of getting destroyed by the counterresponse.

I think the main effect of the bridge attack is what we're already seen - it gives Putin a convinient excuse to come in even harder against civilians and infrastructure than he already was. As others have pointed out in earlier pages, this sort of "terrorist bombing" campaign that Putin has started has a poor history in warfare of not really having much positive effect on the war effort, but it will certainly cause that much more suffering and death for the Ukrainian people.


One of the worst possible developments that could come is if Russian bombers get heavily involved. So far they've mostly been left out because the Ukrainian military is moving/operating in a manner that keeps them from having meaningful impact (and because early in the war he retained some notion of wanting russian-speaking Ukrainians to take Russia's side, or at least be a plausible occupied population for annexation). But if Putin lost concern with specifically supporting ground troops, and decided to just start bombing whatever, he could let a ton more air-based ordinance fly and make a lot more rubble in the country.

They'd be able to put all their resources into military production and put a pause on everything else, declare martial law, preemptively strike NATO targets (according to their laws) call up even MORE people, etc.

After watching Rings of Power on Amazon, the Orc comparison to the Russians is hilarious but very on point.

In the movies, the Allied nation (Men, Elves, Dwarves etc) would kill hundreds of Orcs a piece, but they just kept on coming. And they would throw big ass stones at the castles and just try overrun the Fellowship

This is literally Russias MO and Im pretty sure their plan for any greater war escalation in Ukraine or otherwise, just artillery strike everything into dust and then send in the grunts to hold those territories down. In fact the only pwriod they were winning (I think it was June July and early August) thats exactly what they did.

Morale was also atrocious among the Orcs, as was discipline and even infighting happened alot

But that doesnt mean the Orcs arent a threat that needs our attention

 

[42 Monks]

They'd be able to put all their resources into military production and put a pause on everything else, declare martial law, preemptively strike NATO targets (according to their laws) call up even MORE people, etc.

After watching Rings of Power on Amazon, the Orc comparison to the Russians is hilarious but very on point.

In the movies, the Allied nation (Men, Elves, Dwarves etc) would kill hundreds of Orcs a piece, but they just kept on coming. And they would throw big ass stones at the castles and just try overrun the Fellowship

This is literally Russias MO and Im pretty sure their plan for any greater war escalation in Ukraine or otherwise, just artillery strike everything into dust and then send in the grunts to hold those territories down. In fact the only pwriod they were winning (I think it was June July and early August) thats exactly what they did.

Morale was also atrocious among the Orcs, as was discipline and even infighting happened alot

But that doesnt mean the Orcs arent a threat that needs our attention

another thing since we're talking cultural stuff

Russia is more okay with ridiculous loss of life among its forces than just about any other country aside from China. It changes a lot of this stuff because 'unacceptable losses' changes drastically depending on who's asking. There's not too many who'd take 500 dead in a day and drive on.

shyt, we make movies about half a dozen guys dying in combat.

 

[Spidey Man]

Reminds me of when the U.S. hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.

United States bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Clinton hit 'em with the "Oops".

Clinton treated them like he treated Monica. Sailed two aircraft carriers through the Taiwan strait in addition to the embassy.

 

[Hood Critic]

THREAD:

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Pakistan, Ukraine, And The Race For Third-Party Ammunition

In the rush to source artillery rounds, Ukraine and its allies turned to Pakistan and an air bridge provided by military cargo planes.

www.thedrive.com

Ukraine Situation Report: Russian Forces Flee Offensive In Kherson

Ukraine's offensive in Kherson is really accelerating as increasingly large swathes of territory are regained from retreating Russian troops.

www.thedrive.com

Ukraine Situation Report: European Vote Calls For Providing Leopard Tanks

Modern tanks could add a heavy punch to Ukraine's ongoing offensive operations against Russian forces on the run in the east and south.

www.thedrive.com

Ukraine Situation Report: German IRIS-T SLM Air Defense System Arriving In Days

Ukraine says Monday's massive Russian missile and drone barrage on civilian targets is further proof it needs improved air defense systems.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Foxmulder]

THREAD:

There’s idiots in the comments still saying Putin hasn’t used the new stuff yet.

 

[42 Monks]

There’s idiots in the comments still saying Putin hasn’t used the new stuff yet.

I really wouldn't trust what the Brits say about Russian anything after that poisoning shyt went on right in their backyard... shyt, when they started dropping sanctions they were shocked at how many of their own ppl were on the same payroll as the folks they went after.

 

[Marlow Stanfield]

Putin unleashing the brutes and beasts of Russia

 

[Hood Critic]

There’s idiots in the comments still saying Putin hasn’t used the new stuff yet.

I don't doubt at all that Russia has some newer equipment, they're using plenty of older Iranian and Chinese equipment now. I suspect the reason we haven't seen any of it is because of the lack of knowledge and experience to use any of it, it's just like the modern fighters that they have but don't have the munitions for.

Not only has this war shown how inept Russian leadership development is, its shown how modernization force development has almost certainly never been on Putin or his regime's radar.

 

[hashmander]

 

[88m3]