Russia Writes Off 90 Percent of North Korea Debt

[MidwestD]

Stan Russia, Brehs!

of all the things one could Stan, some choose Russia

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

This is so fundamental, I dont see how one can disagree

 

[DEAD7]

This is so fundamental, I dont see how one can disagree

Not disagreeing

But I did specify earlier that "world policing(the way we do)" is what I'm against... emphasis on "the way we do".
Its how we are exerting power, not that we are exerting it.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Not disagreeing

But I did specify earlier that "world policing(the way we do)" is what I'm against... emphasis on "the way we do".
Its how we are exerting power, not that we are exerting it.

In what way could it be done better on a broad level? Obviously you aren't going to make the right move 100% of times so dont give me any individual situations that were botched.

 

[DEAD7]

In what way could it be done better on a broad level? Obviously you aren't going to make the right move 100% of times so dont give me any individual situations that were botched.

Let other nations work out their internal turmoils on their own... or suffer their growing pains without outside intervention the way America did.

Or how about uncupping Israels sac and focusing own issues here at home.

or selling to and training middle eastern militias, only to have to drone them down when they turn on us.

or droning sovereign nations period.

I could go on and on, but you get the point.
My question to you is 1- why support these policies and 2- how do they benefit Americans?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Let other nations work out their internal turmoils on their own... or suffer their growing pains without outside intervention the way America did.

Or how about uncupping Israels sac and focusing own issues here at home.

or selling to and training middle eastern militias, only to have to drone them down when they turn on us.

or droning sovereign nations period.

I could go on and on, but you get the point.
My question to you is 1- why support these policies and 2- how do they benefit Americans?

Meddling with the internal politics of other developing nations has been in our playbook for decades. I would argue that it has worked out pretty well for us in controlling certain regions of the globe and, therefore, controlling the resources present there. About Isreal, yea fukk them. I don't really give a fukk about them but they have a grip on our politicians so there isn't much we can do about that, is there? The first, third and fourth points are pretty much one in the same so I don't feel the need to address them separately, but I will say that droning a target is no different than sending in a SEAL team. Someone is going to die either way. Might as well make it risk-less to our own people.

Do I need to explain why intervening in foreign countries and subverting their power benefits us? We get more leverage on the world stage and are able to utilize the world's resources to our benefit. These benefits do not only flow to the top 1%, but obviously the rich do benefit more than an average American. It isn't a coincidence that our involvement in world politics since World War 2 has coincided with the enormous creation of wealth within the United States, as you can see through the exponential growth in our country's GDP. If our interventionism was so harmful to our own country, then why has this enormous wealth creation taken place around the exact time we began to intervene?

As to your point about these policies benefiting the rich, it seems as though you want the benefits of our global power to be more equally distributed to the American population. Sounds pretty socialist to me breh

 

[DEAD7]

Meddling with the internal politics of other developing nations has been in our playbook for decades. I would argue that it has worked out pretty well for us in controlling certain regions of the globe and, therefore, controlling the resources present there. About Isreal, yea fukk them. I don't really give a fukk about them but they have a grip on our politicians so there isn't much we can do about that, is there? The first, third and fourth points are pretty much one in the same so I don't feel the need to address them separately, but I will say that droning a target is no different than sending in a SEAL team. Someone is going to die either way. Might as well make it risk-less to our own people.

Do I need to explain why intervening in foreign countries and subverting their power benefits us? We get more leverage on the world stage and are able to utilize the world's resources to our benefit. These benefits do not only flow to the top 1%, but obviously the rich do benefit more than an average American. It isn't a coincidence that our involvement in world politics since World War 2 has coincided with the enormous creation of wealth within the United States, as you can see through the exponential growth in our country's GDP. If our interventionism was so harmful to our own country, then why has this enormous wealth creation taken place around the exact time we began to intervene?

As to your point about these policies benefiting the rich, it seems as though you want the benefits of our global power to be more equally distributed to the American population. Sounds pretty socialist to me breh

Spoiler

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Spoiler

If someone gave you the choice in 1945 that you would either become the strongest nation the world has ever seen and get attacked over 50 years later , losing only 3000 people, or become Canada status, the decision is clear.

 

[DEAD7]

If someone gave you the choice in 1945 that you would either become the strongest nation the world has ever seen and get attacked over 50 years later , losing only 3000 people, or become Canada status, the decision is clear.

We can easily maintain our world power status without meddling like we do.

This idea that we can't...

...ah f*ck it, you win.
MURICA!!!! Rulers of the "free" world.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

We can easily maintain our world power status without meddling like we do.

This idea that we can't...

...ah f*ck it, you win.
MURICA!!!! Rulers of the "free" world.

We'll still be influential, but not as much. When we give someone else an inch, they'll take it. We aren't the only country looking to expand our influence in every possible opportunity. Look at what China is doing in Africa and how we have shifted a great deal of our focus there as a result.

I know you have to disagree with me here because it doesn't fit into your "initiation of force is morally wrong" bullshyt, but thats the way it works.

 

[Digga38]

Sometimes I feel like a lot of people in the west would defect to the East if there was a war to break out.


Pardon the Analogy but...


I feel like the West is the House Harkonnen, and the East is the House Atreides. Look at this Byran Singer Crap and what's coming out of Hollywood. All these guys raping boys...? and this is the lifestyle that the Dominant power in the West (progressives) fight for and tell us is "Okay"? I don't get it.

The Progs want Drugs, Sex, Amoral behavior, but at the same time they want to take away the rights of the righteous? Those who practice a hard-working conservative or religious lifestyle are pretty much enemies of the state now.

I'm sorry, but the East has the Moral High ground in today's world. The East is now the only territory where National Sovereignty and Conservatism can thrive. They are the Solders in this ideology war with the Progs.

if a nuclear war breaks out, San Francisco (the Prog Homeland) will deserve to burn in the hell fire.

 

[DEAD7]

I know you have to disagree with me here because it doesn't fit into your "initiation of force is morally wrong" bullshyt, but thats the way it works.

*eyes glossing over* One day those imaginary lines on the map will be meaningless and nationalism will be tossed wayside.

Until then, continue the practices. I have given up trying to convince nationalist of the value of lives not born on U.S. soil. Or explaining the of droning. Its not whats "right" that matters, its what is best for America at that moment.

 

[Digga38]

Russia just gave 10 billion dollars to a country that actively runs forced labor camps. A country that will kill you for standing against the goverment. Then throw your whole immediate family in jail for life. Then the next 2-3 generation..

What kind of moral high ground is that.

Fuk North Korea and anybody who love em.

And fuk russia for help the filthy goverment out.

If i was on my computer there would be a bunch of pacspit smilies in this post. Smh

Wipe my ass with anybody who helps Nk.

u can say the same thing about who the US/Israeli govt supports....lets be real here there is plenty of bloody hands going around the world stage

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

*eyes glossing over* One day those imaginary lines on the map will be meaningless and nationalism will be tossed wayside.

Until then, continue the practices. I have given up trying to convince nationalist of the value of lives not born on U.S. soil. Or explaining the of droning. Its not whats "right" that matters, its what is best for America at that moment.

Live in a country, enjoy its benefits and then turn around and criticize what makes your life comfortable. So lame

 

[DEAD7]

Live in a country, enjoy its benefits and then turn around and criticize what makes your life comfortable. So lame

Its not our interventionism that makes it comfortable
...and there is nothing wrong with looking to improve things... which i think ending the droning and Israel butt plugging will do.