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We have a lot of friends as well. I think it would be disingenuous to paint a us vs. everyone else picture. Other than China, who isn't there yet to challenge our power, everyone else is pretty much riding for us. Russia is in a long-term decline. I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that they'll be anywhere near the level that they were at during the height of the cold war.

I guess we'll see then. From my perspective, with those links of US debt to China (plus the FED) as well as them buying up land, as well as the Ukraine situation, as well as the Middle East situation etc.. I can see this being the start of a world war. So it doesnt matter who has what friends when we're working with countries having nukes.
 
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I guess we'll see then. From my perspective, with those links of US debt to China (plus the FED) as well as them buying up land, as well as the Ukraine situation, as well as the Middle East situation etc.. I can see this being the start of a world war. So it doesnt matter who has what friends when we're working with countries having nukes.
China owns less than 10% of our debt and their net position has declined slightly in the past 5 years. Even though the PBOC wants to deleverage themselves slightly from our debt, they still have to put their money somewhere. What are they going to do? Buy european debt, which is much more risky than ours? I don't even see how thats an issue.

The Ukraine situation is just the west and russia flexing at each other. Even if Russia takes eastern ukraine, it wont go hot between the west and russia. From my perspective, we want them to take it by force because itll further isolate them from the rest of Europe.

What middle east situation? Sectarian violence? How is this affecting us in any way. We don't need their oil anymore. They can continue to kill each other.

Stop with the world war bullshyt. Nuclear war isnt going to happen because its suicide for everyone involved. All youre doing is using fear tactics on people that dont follow global politics.
 

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China owns less than 10% of our debt and their net position has declined slightly in the past 5 years. Even though the PBOC wants to deleverage themselves slightly from our debt, they still have to put their money somewhere. What are they going to do? Buy european debt, which is much more risky than ours? I don't even see how thats an issue.

The Ukraine situation is just the west and russia flexing at each other. Even if Russia takes eastern ukraine, it wont go hot between the west and russia. From my perspective, we want them to take it by force because itll further isolate them from the rest of Europe.

What middle east situation? Sectarian violence? How is this affecting us in any way. We don't need their oil anymore. They can continue to kill each other.

It doesnt matter how much debt they own. The FACT is that we have an ever raising debt and a possible adversary (China) owns part of it. And this country is also buying land in our country. I dont see how you can brush that off as "nothing."

Russia is occupying Ukraine (a US ally) right now. Sounds like more than "flexing" to me.

Israel is our allies no? So what happens to them will affect us. Especially since we're going to back them no matter what. Thats without mentioning our dealings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria and other countries. All these things compounded is what makes me thinks that world war is on the horizon.

Stop with the world war bullshyt. Nuclear war isnt going to happen because its suicide for everyone involved. All youre doing is using fear tactics on people that dont follow global politics.

:mjlol: People need to fear God not nuclear war though Im sure you'd disagree with that sentiment as well.
 
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It doesnt matter how much debt they own. The FACT is that we have an ever raising debt and a possible adversary (China) owns part of it. And this country is also buying land in our country. I dont see how you can brush that off as "nothing."

Russia is occupying Ukraine (a US ally) right now. Sounds like more than "flexing" to me.

Israel is our allies no? So what happens to them will affect us. Especially since we're going to back them no matter what. Thats without mentioning our dealings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria and other countries. All these things compounded is what makes me thinks that world war is on the horizon.



:mjlol: People need to fear God not nuclear war though Im sure you'd disagree with that sentiment as well.
Ahh yes the debt issue. An issue brought up by many misinformed individuals that try to make the case that we are on the decline. Without delving too deeply in macroeconomics here, this is solvable by simply bringing the deficit below levels of net GDP growth. The problem irons itself out if this is accomplished. What exactly is China going to do btw? Conduct a firesale of their US debt holdings and take a massive loss? Theres plenty of demand for our debt. Itll be a temporary shock that will stabilize within a few months time. They're buying land here? Great, they are free to invest their capital here. Our open capital markets thrive when this happens. When the Chinese are inevitably forced to free restrictions on direct foreign investments, we'll see who is going to be buying up what:pachaha:

Ukraine is not a US ally and has historically been under the Russian sphere of influence. The fact is that we have successfully taken, at the very least, western Ukraine away from Russian de-facto control. How this is a loss for the west, not one person has been able to articulate so far.

Out of all those places that you listed, the only real threat to global security is Pakistan. Given that, we obviously need to do everything that we can to make sure that their nuclear arsenal doesn't fall into the hands of extremist elements. I'm sure we have contingency plans in place to deal with this possibility, but it is a worrisome situation.

God :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:If you're waiting impatiently for a world war so you can see your god then just off yourself already and save us all the trouble of reading your unfounded beliefs. Religious people have been predicting the end of the world forever. It hasn't happened yet. You aren't any different so stop thinking your predictions are special.
 

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Ahh yes the debt issue. An issue brought up by many misinformed individuals that try to make the case that we are on the decline. Without delving too deeply in macroeconomics here, this is solvable by simply bringing the deficit below levels of net GDP growth. The problem irons itself out if this is accomplished. What exactly is China going to do btw? Conduct a firesale of their US debt holdings and take a massive loss? Theres plenty of demand for our debt. Itll be a temporary shock that will stabilize within a few months time. They're buying land here? Great, they are free to invest their capital here. Our open capital markets thrive when this happens. When the Chinese are inevitably forced to free restrictions on direct foreign investments, we'll see who is going to be buying up what:pachaha:

"Misinformed"? "Solvable"? :mjlol: This country was sold out by its leaders. Thats why we're in debt. And we are on the decline because of it along with the moral decline that is happening as well. Remember when you said "learn from other empires" that have fallen? And yet our population is being distracted by "bread and circuses" just as the Romans were? Our populous (along with you) express no concern over manufactured debt that the leaders have placed on the heads of their constituents(*cough*cough* us *cough*cough*)?

As I said, I dont see how one can come to the conclusion that the fact we are in debt to China and they are buying land in our country comes to nothing. I guess we'll see if it actually amounts to anything, but you're brushing it off as if it is irrelevant. It is entirely relevant friend when this is a possible adversary to us. Along with their relations with Russia, its something to watch at the least

Ukraine is not a US ally and has historically been under the Russian sphere of influence. The fact is that we have successfully taken, at the very least, western Ukraine away from Russian de-facto control. How this is a loss for the west, not one person has been able to articulate so far.

Out of all those places that you listed, the only real threat to global security is Pakistan. Given that, we obviously need to do everything that we can to make sure that their nuclear arsenal doesn't fall into the hands of extremist elements. I'm sure we have contingency plans in place to deal with this possibility, but it is a worrisome situation.

What I meant was that the US would come to back Ukraine. That has been proven by sentiments that have been made by those in power. The problem isnt one specific country banding against us. But COUNTRIES banding against us. And with nukes/drones etc.. that shows that their soldiers do not have to step a foot on the US soil to damage us. I dont know why you're thinking the US is invincible, but I guess pride comes before the fall.

I also dont know why me presenting concern over nukes that other countries OBVIOUSLY have and WILL use if pushed is "fear mongering"
God :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:If you're waiting impatiently for a world war so you can see your god then just off yourself already and save us all the trouble of reading your unfounded beliefs. Religious people have been predicting the end of the world forever. It hasn't happened yet. You aren't any different so stop thinking your predictions are special.


Yes God Almighty. Im just watching the signs friend. While you will be caught off guard, it will be something that others were expecting because they saw the signs beforehand. Oh and I said nothing of the end of the world nor did I say my predictions were "special".

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"Misinformed"? "Solvable"? :mjlol: This country was sold out by its leaders. Thats why we're in debt. And we are on the decline because of it along with the moral decline that is happening as well. Remember when you said "learn from other empires" that have fallen? And yet our population is being distracted by "bread and circuses" just as the Romans were? Our populous (along with you) express no concern over manufactured debt that the leaders have placed on the heads of their constituents(*cough*cough* us *cough*cough*)?

As I said, I dont see how one can come to the conclusion that the fact we are in debt to China and they are buying land in our country comes to nothing. I guess we'll see if it actually amounts to anything, but you're brushing it off as if it is irrelevant. It is entirely relevant friend when this is a possible adversary to us. Along with their relations with Russia, its something to watch at the least



What I meant was that the US would come to back Ukraine. That has been proven by sentiments that have been made by those in power. The problem isnt one specific country banding against us. But COUNTRIES banding against us. And with nukes/drones etc.. that shows that their soldiers do not have to step a foot on the US soil to damage us. I dont know why you're thinking the US is invincible, but I guess pride comes before the fall.

I also dont know why me presenting concern over nukes that other countries OBVIOUSLY have and WILL use if pushed is "fear mongering"



Yes God Almighty. Im just watching the signs friend. While you will be caught off guard, it will be something that others were expecting because they saw the signs beforehand. Oh and I said nothing of the end of the world nor did I say my predictions were "special".

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Youre talking about China buying up our country like this same shyt didnt play out with the Japanese in the 80s. Then, as is happening now, the Japanese were expanding with the same credit-driven growth model that the Chinese are using right now. To see how this model fails spectacularly, all you have to do is take a look at the enormous mess the Japanese economy has been for the past several decades. You talk of American debt like our leaders sold us out and conveniently (or not, you might just be completely ignorant) gloss over the massive increases in Chinese debt in the last decade. You know nothing about macroeconomics. It is blatantly obvious and yet you think anyone cares about your doom and gloom forecasts for the future.

We won't directly back Ukraine militarily, so this shouldn't even be discussed any further. This is just a fantasy scenario playing out in your head that youre using to support your conclusions. Who has, not only the motivation, but the power to band against us exactly? How is it obvious that anyone will resort to the use of nuclear weapons when only one country has ever even used them, and that is use? If anything, other countries are very weary of even considering them as an option because we have shown in the past that we will not hesitate in using them. You're using assumptions that aren't very solid here.

Pakistan is a cause for concern. Everyone knows this.

You shouldn't push your religion on others. Its so unchristian, friend. My point is that you are no different than the generations of other religious zealots that have come before you that have predicted apocalypse based on a misguided analysis of the instability of the world. A world war = end of the world, so don't try to back off that bullshyt now.
 

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Youre talking about China buying up our country like this same shyt didnt play out with the Japanese in the 80s. Then, as is happening now, the Japanese were expanding with the same credit-driven growth model that the Chinese are using right now. To see how this model fails spectacularly, all you have to do is take a look at the enormous mess the Japanese economy has been for the past several decades. You talk of American debt like our leaders sold us out and conveniently (or not, you might just be completely ignorant) gloss over the massive increases in Chinese debt in the last decade. You know nothing about macroeconomics. It is blatantly obvious and yet you think anyone cares about your doom and gloom forecasts for the future.

1. You just compared Japan in the 80's to China of today. Even though China is a greater power in the world today than Japan has ever been :camby:

2. It seems like you dont know that the Federal Reserve was our leaders selling us out. I dont need to know everything about macroeconomics to know that it was people selling us out that got us that.

3. My point has been the same all along. China is closely aligned with Russia. Thus, us being in debt to China (a potential adversary) along with them buying land in the country is something to watch. Point blank period. You're the one acting as if these two things mean nothing and should be brushed under the rug.

We won't directly back Ukraine militarily, so this shouldn't even be discussed any further. This is just a fantasy scenario playing out in your head that youre using to support your conclusions. Who has, not only the motivation, but the power to band against us exactly? How is it obvious that anyone will resort to the use of nuclear weapons when only one country has ever even used them, and that is use? If anything, other countries are very weary of even considering them as an option because we have shown in the past that we will not hesitate in using them. You're using assumptions that aren't very solid here.

Continue believing that the US is invincible. Pride comes before the fall my friend :ufdup: Especially when your leaders sold you out in the first place. But on the Ukraine situation, they've already started either threatening or straight up posing sanctions on Russia. If Russia continues to other countries, (which I assume they will) we'll see the world war that you think will not come.

If countries are pushed they will use them. Thats my opinion on it. Just as your opinion is that the world is so scared of the US that they wont fight against them. I guess you'll see for yourself. No one is going to go one on one with the US. But with the right backing and goals in mind, our enemies (well not our) can and will band together to fight a common enemy.
Pakistan is a cause for concern. Everyone knows this.

Agreed. But I dont think you should just ignore Russia, China, Syria, North Korea, among other countries that may have a bone to pick with us. You think we can and I point to that as pride. But pride comes before the fall my friend. But for some people seeing is believing so just wait on it.
You shouldn't push your religion on others. Its so unchristian, friend. My point is that you are no different than the generations of other religious zealots that have come before you that have predicted apocalypse based on a misguided analysis of the instability of the world. A world war = end of the world, so don't try to back off that bullshyt now.

I didnt push anything on you but it is my duty to warn my brethren. After that, its on them. Nonetheless no, the world war is not the end of the world. :mjlol: Try again friend.

It will be a start of a different world though that is unlike the one we see today. You've heard of globalists right?
 
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Yes, I am comparing them because they the two cases are strikingly similar. You will find that any economist doing an analysis of the growth in the Chinese economy in the past decade will also compare it with what happen before Japan's lost decades. If you can't articulate why the Federal Reserve's policies are harmful on a macroeconomic level, then don't even mention it at all because you look stupid. Also, if you can't articulate why China's holdings of American treasuries gives them any leverage over us, than it would be best if you didn't mention that either. Its just lazy. Educate yourself before you debate these things.

Russia's influence in Eastern Europe has been retreating for the past several decades. There is no evidence to support that they have the strength of the will to extend their borders significantly passed Eastern Ukraine. This is also a fantasy. Anything that the US government says in the media or any sanctions they impose is simply political posturing.

Russia, China, Syria and North Korea are the tag team of countries that are going to dethrone the US and its western allies? :lolbron:Syria and North Korea are a joke and China has no interest in destroying the markets where it sells the garbage it produces.

You make a world war and the resulting nuclear winter sound so poetic :russ:Itll be the start of a different world. One in which the planet is uninhabitable for the human special for millennia. How beautiful. Instead of fearing god, we need to fear the people in power that believe in these fantasies.

Higher Learning has got to step it up.
 

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Well for one Jews and Christians are "zionists" by definition. Theres probably a better word you can refer to the people you are referring to. But if you know about the "zionists" dont you see that they're purposely ruining countries/continents? Not to mention causing conflicts across the globe? I think with this Russia/Ukraine situation it will start something. And since China would back China :usure:and the US would back Ukraine....

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early christians didn't leave with jews like that. jews lived in the ghettos. christians didn't worship money and forgave debt. it was jews who had a culture of money and overcharging interest and birthed banks. and once they got enough money to buy politicians it was a wrap for what we call civilization. from there the zionists now went from country to country making money off wars.
i don't know what you wanna refer them as.

the christian denominations have been infiltrated by the jesuits. and yes, right now christians like the catholics in the vatican are doing the devils work and being used buy zionists for the one world agenda.
right now bibles are being revised and being used as a tool to make christians/general public submissive to current authority. they're using the NIV version of the bible. revising it to distort the message :stopitslime:.


excuse me for going a little alex jones on yall :whoa::yeshrug:.
 

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Yes, I am comparing them because they the two cases are strikingly similar. You will find that any economist doing an analysis of the growth in the Chinese economy in the past decade will also compare it with what happen before Japan's lost decades. If you can't articulate why the Federal Reserve's policies are harmful on a macroeconomic level, then don't even mention it at all because you look stupid. Also, if you can't articulate why China's holdings of American treasuries gives them any leverage over us, than it would be best if you didn't mention that either. Its just lazy. Educate yourself before you debate these things.

So bring it friend. Bring the facts that show that China being a world power now is comparable to Japan. And from whatever you bring, please have it explain how the US propping up Japan is comparable to China's growth. I'll wait. Onto the Federal Reserve. Where does all the money in circulation come from and what is it backed with? And is it given at INTEREST? Answer these questions friend. Just because I dont throw out "macroeconomic" in each post doesnt mean Im "stupid". Not that it matters how I look to you lol

As well, I've stated the same thing the whole time friend. ITS SOMETHING TO WATCH. No matter what country I lived in, I would think it suspicious if a foreign country that could possibly be considered an adversary came and bought land in my country. You disagree. Thats fine but I can say what I want about it and have the views I want about it. So me saying "its something to watch" doesnt mean I stated it gives them leverage over us.

Russia's influence in Eastern Europe has been retreating for the past several decades. There is no evidence to support that they have the strength of the will to extend their borders significantly passed Eastern Ukraine. This is also a fantasy. Anything that the US government says in the media or any sanctions they impose is simply political posturing.


Russia, China, Syria and North Korea are the tag team of countries that are going to dethrone the US and its western allies? :lolbron:Syria and North Korea are a joke and China has no interest in destroying the markets where it sells the garbage it produces.

First it was "flexing" now its "political posturing". The coordinating with NATO to impose sanctions shows that theres something more than what you're saying.

And maybe you should look up the IMF and World Bank and what exactly causes "conflicts" Then go look at the laws your government is passing if you think your country isnt on the downturn.


You make a world war and the resulting nuclear winter sound so poetic :russ:Itll be the start of a different world. One in which the planet is uninhabitable for the human special for millennia. How beautiful. Instead of fearing god, we need to fear the people in power that believe in these fantasies.

Higher Learning has got to step it up.

Its not hard to bomb cities friend. Those in power arent going to make the planet inhabitable for themselves. But to bomb cities is nothing to certain people on earth.

Nah you need to fear God Almighty. But some rather learn that the hard way. Just really cant say you werent warned....
 

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early christians didn't leave with jews like that. jews lived in the ghettos. christians didn't worship money and forgave debt. it was jews who had a culture of money and overcharging interest and birthed banks. and once they got enough money to buy politicians it was a wrap for what we call civilization. from there the zionists now went from country to country making money off wars.
i don't know what you wanna refer them as.

the christian denominations have been infiltrated by the jesuits. and yes, right now christians like the catholics in the vatican are doing the devils work and being used buy zionists for the one world agenda.

Definition from wiki:
A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority in their own nation, and to be liberated from antisemitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that had historically occurred in the diaspora.

By this definition many Jews, Christians, and myself are "zionist" in the sense that we believe that land was promised to them by Israel. And not "jews" of Judaism but the actual descendants of Abraham. So by saying "zionists" it can refer to any of these groups and more that believe that land is of the people of Israel.

I guess Im saying that saying "zionist" doesnt get to the gist of who you're referring to.


right now bibles are being revised and being used as a tool to make christians/general public submissive to current authority. they're using the NIV version of the bible. revising it to distort the message :stopitslime:.


excuse me for going a little alex jones on yall :whoa::yeshrug:.
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So bring it friend. Bring the facts that show that China being a world power now is comparable to Japan. And from whatever you bring, please have it explain how the US propping up Japan is comparable to China's growth. I'll wait. Onto the Federal Reserve. Where does all the money in circulation come from and what is it backed with? And is it given at INTEREST? Answer these questions friend. Just because I dont throw out "macroeconomic" in each post doesnt mean Im "stupid". Not that it matters how I look to you lol

As well, I've stated the same thing the whole time friend. ITS SOMETHING TO WATCH. No matter what country I lived in, I would think it suspicious if a foreign country that could possibly be considered an adversary came and bought land in my country. You disagree. Thats fine but I can say what I want about it and have the views I want about it. So me saying "its something to watch" doesnt mean I stated it gives them leverage over us.



First it was "flexing" now its "political posturing". The coordinating with NATO to impose sanctions shows that theres something more than what you're saying.

And maybe you should look up the IMF and World Bank and what exactly causes "conflicts" Then go look at the laws your government is passing if you think your country isnt on the downturn.




Its not hard to bomb cities friend. Those in power arent going to make the planet inhabitable for themselves. But to bomb cities is nothing to certain people on earth.

Nah you need to fear God Almighty. But some rather learn that the hard way. Just really cant say you werent warned....
I never said Japan was as big of a power as China. Youre deflecting my point here. The issue is the method in which each of these countries attempted to grow their economy. The similarities are well documented. I don't understand your point about the source of creation of the money supply. Every central bank utilizes the same processes, even China. Their printing of money has vastly outpaced ours in recent years. You should have the same problems with PBOC policy as well in that case. The interest that the US Treasury pays to the Federal Reserve is rebated at almost a 91% rate, so its actually beneficial to us for them to purchase debt, as the net cost ends up being much lower than any other outside investor.

The way in which the global economy is structured leads to foreign investments by countries such as China in places like the US. When China lifts their restrictions on direct foreign investment, as I pointed out before, this will lead to greater American investment in China as well. There's nothing to watch here. Its just foreigners trying to make money in a stable economy. Its a natural development.

:dwillhuh:Flexing and political posturing is the same thing. The sanctions that are being put in place are just for show. Everyone knows that in the short-term, Russian supply of oil and gas into Europe is necessary. Nevertheless, European countries are actively looking to deleverage themselves from Russia going forward. This is a bad development for Russia and one of the sources of anxiety that the Russian elite has towards Putins actions.

I'm sure you have heard of radioactive fallout. If there is a nuclear war, the consequences will extend towards everyone on the planet, not just the average citizen. What would be the purpose of the rich destroying everything that creates their value if they want to maintain power going forward? It doesn't make any sense at all. If anything, they want to maintain the status qou and not disrupt their position:snoop:

I don't need to fear god because i dont have the mind of a child and he doesnt exist in any kind of judeo-christian form. Take your religious nonsense out of this thread because it isnt the place.
 

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I never said Japan was as big of a power as China. Youre deflecting my point here. The issue is the method in which each of these countries attempted to grow their economy. The similarities are well documented. I don't understand your point about the source of creation of the money supply. Every central bank utilizes the same processes, even China. Their printing of money has vastly outpaced ours in recent years. You should have the same problems with PBOC policy as well in that case. The interest that the US Treasury pays to the Federal Reserve is rebated at almost a 91% rate, so its actually beneficial to us for them to purchase debt, as the net cost ends up being much lower than any other outside investor.

The way in which the global economy is structured leads to foreign investments by countries such as China in places like the US. When China lifts their restrictions on direct foreign investment, as I pointed out before, this will lead to greater American investment in China as well. There's nothing to watch here. Its just foreigners trying to make money in a stable economy. Its a natural development.

How can you not compare the method and the fact that China is bigger than Japan ever was? When Japan's PEAK is not even where a GROWING China is today? As I said its not the same. Japan was being propped up by the US. That has alot to do with their downfall dont you think?

Im in America not China. And in America they are printing out money and giving it to us at interest. Now if you can bring information that shows that this is beneficial FOR US (not them) then bring it. Because I dont see it. Not to mention our debt is increasing on the daily. Explain that as well and how that is beneficial to the average American.

I've said what I said and I will maintain my position. If I see a foreign country that is a possible enemy buying land in my country, I will be weary of it. I dont care for the "global economy" as its easy to see that its controlled. Anytime a country gets in line, the powers that be come in and impose sanctions ( :mjpls: ) or firepower to keep them in check. So the possible "benefits" from that are not my concern over the fact that the economy and stability of various nations seem to be controlled on whims.
:dwillhuh:Flexing and political posturing is the same thing. The sanctions that are being put in place are just for show. Everyone knows that in the short-term, Russian supply of oil and gas into Europe is necessary. Nevertheless, European countries are actively looking to deleverage themselves from Russia going forward. This is a bad development for Russia and one of the sources of anxiety that the Russian elite has towards Putins actions.

Sorry :manny: Flexing sounds like stunting for a fight while political posturing sounds like going thru the motions. It doesnt sound like Russia is "going thru the motions" by entering Ukraine. And since they seem to be calling the bluffs on the sanctions already put on them (and the threats of more) I dont see them stopping with Crimea.

I'm sure you have heard of radioactive fallout. If there is a nuclear war, the consequences will extend towards everyone on the planet, not just the average citizen. What would be the purpose of the rich destroying everything that creates their value if they want to maintain power going forward? It doesn't make any sense at all. If anything, they want to maintain the status qou and not disrupt their position:snoop:

I don't need to fear god because i dont have the mind of a child and he doesnt exist in any kind of judeo-christian form. Take your religious nonsense out of this thread because it isnt the place.

If they "wanted to maintain status quo" they wouldnt be busy in other countries causing conflicts. They're obviously working towards an end. Not just working to maintain what they already have.

Well someone did say that one must become like a child to enter the kingdom of heaven :mjlol: Nonetheless, the only reason I brought it up is because you said I was "fear mongering" by bringing up concerns of nuclear war. If the elite already have bunkers underground to where they could hide if anything happened as well I think this is a valid concern. Though I feel that people shouldnt fear nukes but should fear God instead. Want me to stop talking about it? Stop responding to this part of my post. And stop making false accusations

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How can you not compare the method and the fact that China is bigger than Japan ever was? When Japan's PEAK is not even where a GROWING China is today? As I said its not the same. Japan was being propped up by the US. That has alot to do with their downfall dont you think?

Im in America not China. And in America they are printing out money and giving it to us at interest. Now if you can bring information that shows that this is beneficial FOR US (not them) then bring it. Because I dont see it. Not to mention our debt is increasing on the daily. Explain that as well and how that is beneficial to the average American.

I've said what I said and I will maintain my position. If I see a foreign country that is a possible enemy buying land in my country, I will be weary of it. I dont care for the "global economy" as its easy to see that its controlled. Anytime a country gets in line, the powers that be come in and impose sanctions ( :mjpls: ) or firepower to keep them in check. So the possible "benefits" from that are not my concern over the fact that the economy and stability of various nations seem to be controlled on whims.


Sorry :manny: Flexing sounds like stunting for a fight while political posturing sounds like going thru the motions. It doesnt sound like Russia is "going thru the motions" by entering Ukraine. And since they seem to be calling the bluffs on the sanctions already put on them (and the threats of more) I dont see them stopping with Crimea.



If they "wanted to maintain status quo" they wouldnt be busy in other countries causing conflicts. They're obviously working towards an end. Not just working to maintain what they already have.

Well someone did say that one must become like a child to enter the kingdom of heaven :mjlol: Nonetheless, the only reason I brought it up is because you said I was "fear mongering" by bringing up concerns of nuclear war. If the elite already have bunkers underground to where they could hide if anything happened as well I think this is a valid concern. Though I feel that people shouldnt fear nukes but should fear God instead. Want me to stop talking about it? Stop responding to this part of my post. And stop making false accusations

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What do you not understand about Japan's policies at the time being strikingly similar to China's? This has been discussed ad nauseam by economists in recent years. The nominal size of the two country's economies is wholly irrelevant to anything.

About the interest point, you're just being thick. I clearly explained to you that they rebate the interest charged on treasuries. If they rebate the interest to the government, then it is clearly advantageous for us for the Fed to finance our debt over outside investors, who would have to be compensated with full interest payments. Read this for a more thorough analysis: PublicEye.org - The Website of Political Research Associates It seems to me that no one actually knows what the Federal Reserve does in reality and yet they continue to parrot nonsense conspiracy theories.

Its a good thing that no one really cares what you're weary about then, isn't it?

Russia is desperately trying to maintain what influence they have in the region. If they push into eastern Ukraine, they gain nothing in value compared to a couple years ago. They already had control of Ukraine. Now, they might still control it, but have to deal with the headache of occupying a land full of hostile Ukrainians. I fail to see how this is evidence of any Russian strength, as they are on the brink of losing one of their only allies left and have successfully pissed off all of Eastern Europe. The end is encircling Russia and expanding American influence in the region. Nuclear war benefits absolutely no one. Elite building bunkers huh :russ:

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