We are looking real bad right now. This is a defining moment and I feel like Obama is going to blow it.What?
We are looking real bad right now. This is a defining moment and I feel like Obama is going to blow it.What?
explain furtherWe are looking real bad right now. This is a defining moment and I feel like Obama is going to blow it.
Seems simple to me. Turkey's story is not adding up, no way they could have warned the dude 10 timesexplain further
his flight path showed him buzzing that border several times ...but turkey is wilding to pull that card that quickly...we must have underestimated tensionsSeems simple to me. Turkey's story is not adding up, no way they could have warned the dude 10 times
UNLESS
The Russian plane went through and circled back, and they warned them as they circled back. If those are the rules then but if not this is our chance to do something about Turkey.
To be fair, I was always consistent in not trusting Snowden.Its perfect propaganda.
You use the dissenters to advance your larger geopolitical aims.
Dudes just thought they had an ally, when they didn't.
Snowden has been on my shyt list once I realized he was one of those looney ideologues who thinks all nations deserve to know what the other nation is doing....the fukk are you telling other countries for?To be fair, I was always consistent in not trusting Snowden.
It's a hard case of the idea of Snowmen and Manning being right and the motivations being suspect
The degree of self-referential delusion is impressive,Start at the beginning of the thread...I been tried to warn dudes like @tmonster and @Brown_Pride hated on me
@GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! im not crazy breh
BothTheir motivations or the motivations of those who acquired their data dumps?
Both
Their motivations are questionable because Snowden went beyond just spying on US citizens. I don't really question the motivations on Glenn Greenwald even if I think he is harder on the US than anyone else.Their motivations or the motivations of those who acquired their data dumps?
lol man you stay salty for a minute. I never hated on you nor did I say Wiki didn't have an agenda, I just said If what they are saying is true then it's true. So they have an agenda, does that mean the next time they drop some evidence of our government doing something wrong that we should ignore it?Start at the beginning of the thread...I been tried to warn dudes like @tmonster and @Brown_Pride hated on me
@GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! im not crazy breh
I dont see that the contract was violate.dI disagree with you and Bar on that, on Snowden especially.
He released it to the media sources, and the bulk of the data involves the clear violation of the 4th Amendment.
The United States of America is not our government, it is our people, and the people are protected from their government by the Constitution. If a citizen reveals that his government has violated its contract with the people, that person did an honorable thing in my view.
So let's get this straightI dont see that the contract was violate.d
My only beef with Snowden is him sharing information on legitimate foreign intelligence services. He was within his right to discuss domestic surveillance though.So let's get this straight
the government has not done anything constitutionally or morally or ethically wrong
and Snoden is a spy who collected infomation for his own purposes
sharing the stuff with us is just incidental or maybe even a cover
does thart about cover it?
Frankly I don't trust you at all
I trust Snowden more than you
He's got a ton more street cred than you
-We know who he is
-he has had to give up his entire livelihood
-He has actually given raw information to us citizens
-He put his life where his ideology is
All you are have some potentially spurious twitter links
you have none of Snowden's credentials
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You have no way of proving that you are not
-part of a smear campaign,
-or have fallen for a smear campaign
-or another crazy dude
-or an idiot
sorry
I just don't buy you