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Don McGahn KNEW...then played dumb for Sally Yates :wow:


WHAT THE fukk. FLYNN AND TRUMP KNEW.

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And so it begins.

Conservatives begin to whisper: President Pence

With Trump swamped by self-inflicted scandals, Republicans find solace in the man waiting in the wings.

By MATTHEW NUSSBAUM and THEODORIC MEYER

05/17/2017 06:50 PM EDT

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"Not since the release of the Access Hollywood tape, in which Donald Trump bragged about groping women by the genitals, have some conservatives thought so seriously, if a bit wistfully, about two words: President Pence.

The scandals clouding Trump’s presidency — including, most recently, his firing of FBI Director James Comey, his alleged leak of classified information to Russian officials, and reports that he urged Comey to drop an investigation into a top aide — have raised once more the possibility that Trump could be pushed aside and replaced by Vice President Mike Pence.

“If what the [New York Times] reported is true, Pence is probably rehearsing,” one House Republican who asked not to be named quipped Wednesday. “It’s just like Nixon. From the standpoint that it’s never the underlying issue, it is always the cover-up.”

The still far-fetched proposition of removing Trump from office has increasing appeal to Republicans who are growing weary of defending Trump and are alarmed by his conduct in office. But such whispers are cringe-worthy for Pence and his aides, who have made an art of not upstaging the mercurial president. Pence’s press secretary declined to comment for this article.

On the campaign trail, Pence would shut down any conversations about the possibility of his own future bid should Trump lose, telling donors who raised the prospect that he was entirely focused on the race at hand. Aides said that sentiment was sincere — even if they engaged in some thinking about what Pence’s future could entail after a likely loss.

Still, some conservatives are hinting that Pence looks like a particularly good alternative right now, especially as the Justice Department moves ahead with a special prosecutor for the FBI’s Russia probe.

Erick Erickson, a conservative pundit who was a strong Never Trumper but then pledged to give the president a chance, wrote on Wednesday that Republicans should abandon the president because they “have no need for him with Mike Pence in the wings...”.

Conservatives begin to whisper: President Pence
 

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The real reason is that probably 70% of this country is fukking stupid.

You count the Trump voters, and the lazy people who never do anything or vote, and then you have a huge cauldron of people who you have to sheepishly walk to understanding this story over time. You can't just drop "treason"...you gotta have people understand the nuances and buildup slowly.

You can't drop a single story over night and oust trump. You have to shift public opinion ever so slightly just so that you can have people wake up one day hating trump without realizing they've been pushed to that position skillfully

And not to mention, all his supporters need to have the energy zapped from them so they don't violently rise up.

This is about management of the issue.

We could have dealt with Trump back on November 9th. The Government knew Trump was dirty. They all did. But its about handling how the public got that information.

Even right now, representatives and senators keep using cautious language to slow-walk the issue. They all know whats at the end of the road. They are just playing dumb for their constituents.
fukk. Powerful post. Exactly right. The Trumpists are so hardcore that I could see some sort of civil unrest if it's not built up slowly, and even then there still could be.
 

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fukk. Powerful post. Exactly right. The Trumpists are so hardcore that I could see some sort of civil unrest if it's not built up slowly, and even then there still could be.
This is why I don't tolerate undue Hillary slander.

She was not perfect. However, no one is. Sanders wife is currently facing a federal fraud investigation, for instance.

Every selection of a politician to represent you is a negotiation and a compromise.

The problem that no one wants to address is that STUPID ADULT MEN AND WOMEN ARE PEOPLE WHO GET TO VOTE TOO. No one wants to hold these ADULTS accountable for their decision. People love to blame the politician, not the dummies who support them.

Thats the problem with democracy, ultimately.

The #NeverTrump conservatives, while I probably disagree with them 85% of the time on any issue, are the REAL republicans who tried to avert this disaster.
 

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RESIGNATION!

Not because of all that's going on, but because you know he doesn't want to leave the country and go on tour.
Nah he's still headstrong enough to believe that he can weather the storm and survive this because he doesn't know what the Feds know yet.

They're just gonna bloviate and pomp up for the media
 
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