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@Cole Cash hang in a few more rounds. shyt always picks up eventually. Gotta he patient unfortunately. The bright side is that this investigation is a good distraction.
Off topic: Where's :myman: @DonKnock been? Haven't seen him lately....
He’ll come through with a tidal wave of daps for everyone like he always does when he’s back on. I think he’s largely MIA during the summer most of the time.
 

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Only one thing the AF1 crew is all arm Air Force personel..

Russia ain’t trying to keep AF1 and crew in custody they will send them right back to the US...

Trump defecting to Russia is def a real possibility, of it happens the 25th amendment, impeachment and removal would immediately be invoked...
If he quits, I’m almost sure that invocation is redundant.
 

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If he quits, I’m almost sure that invocation is redundant.




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The Borowitz Report: Accompanied by Ivanka, Eric, and Don, Jr., Trump boarded a specially chartered Aeroflot plane to take him to his new home in Moscow, a nondescript apartment building that also houses the former N.S.A. employee Edward Snowden.


NEWYORKER.COM

Trump Family Flees to Moscow
Trump reportedly was in a tremendous hurry to catch the plane and left behind only a one-sentence note, reading, “THERE WAS NO COLUSION [sic].”
 

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You playing but the Trump movie is going to be th best movie ever
And you know we getting different stories by different ppl
So we’ll probably get a tv series too

They are going to have to do a Marvel Universe of the whole thing(Netflix,TV,Movies)
 

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The League of the South launched its Russian language page just days after President Trump met with Vladimir Putin

SOUTHERN NATIONALIST GROUP CREATES RUSSIAN LANGUAGE WEBSITE PAGE TO FOSTER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE 'TWO NATURAL ALLIES'

"We understand that the Russian people and Southerners are natural allies in blood, culture, and religion," Michael Hill, the league's president, wrote in a letter addressed to "our Russian friends." The note was published online on July 17 - a day after President Donald Trump met with, and praised, Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

The letter posted by the group says that the South and Russia are "two natural allies" against threats of globalism and mass migration. "As fellow Whites of northern European extraction, we come from the same general gene pool. As inheritors of the European cultural tradition, we share similar values, customs, and ways of life. And as Christians, we worship the same Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our common faith binds us as brothers and sisters," Hill wrote.
 

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The League of the South launched its Russian language page just days after President Trump met with Vladimir Putin

SOUTHERN NATIONALIST GROUP CREATES RUSSIAN LANGUAGE WEBSITE PAGE TO FOSTER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE 'TWO NATURAL ALLIES'

"We understand that the Russian people and Southerners are natural allies in blood, culture, and religion," Michael Hill, the league's president, wrote in a letter addressed to "our Russian friends." The note was published online on July 17 - a day after President Donald Trump met with, and praised, Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

The letter posted by the group says that the South and Russia are "two natural allies" against threats of globalism and mass migration. "As fellow Whites of northern European extraction, we come from the same general gene pool. As inheritors of the European cultural tradition, we share similar values, customs, and ways of life. And as Christians, we worship the same Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our common faith binds us as brothers and sisters," Hill wrote.

Do they believe this is normal behavior?
 

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The League of the South launched its Russian language page just days after President Trump met with Vladimir Putin

SOUTHERN NATIONALIST GROUP CREATES RUSSIAN LANGUAGE WEBSITE PAGE TO FOSTER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE 'TWO NATURAL ALLIES'

"We understand that the Russian people and Southerners are natural allies in blood, culture, and religion," Michael Hill, the league's president, wrote in a letter addressed to "our Russian friends." The note was published online on July 17 - a day after President Donald Trump met with, and praised, Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

The letter posted by the group says that the South and Russia are "two natural allies" against threats of globalism and mass migration. "As fellow Whites of northern European extraction, we come from the same general gene pool. As inheritors of the European cultural tradition, we share similar values, customs, and ways of life. And as Christians, we worship the same Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our common faith binds us as brothers and sisters," Hill wrote.

Do they believe this is normal behavior?
 

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i've said this before but i will say it again:

trump will visit russia when he realizes that the gig is up.
he will leave Air Force 1, it's crew and the Secret Service high and dry.

days will go past with no contact from trump...
he may even bring his most trusted allies with him on this trip.

all the while russia has AF1 and secret service in their custody.

if the IC is smart, they should place a self destruct mechanism into AF1 because this is a legit possibility.
YUP

I've always said theres a HIGH risk of defection :whoo:
 

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Oga Basta not holding back:banderas:

Dershowitz again... :what:

If Cohen and Avenatti agreed to sit down and talk there is no question of legality regarding anything that was said...Its the equivalent of talking to the police without a lawyer, anything you say can and will be used against you...

Dershowitz is right about ethics, speaking to opposing counsel without your attorney signing off on it is frowned upon but Cohen does not need permission from his lawyer(s) to talk to anybody nor does his lawyer(s) need to be present...It is wise and heavily recommended to seek your lawyers permission before talking to opposing counsel but not required...

Dershowitz is also conveniently leaving out the fact Cohen is still a licensed attorney, not some average Joe that doesn't know the law and can be easily manipulated into saying something he shouldn't...This little fact matters when looking at it from an ethics standpoint and Dershowitz knows that...
 

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Dershowitz again... :what:

If Cohen and Avenatti agreed to sit down and talk there is no question of legality regarding anything that was said...Its the equivalent of talking to the police without a lawyer, anything you say can and will be used against you...

Dershowitz is right about ethics, speaking to opposing counsel without your attorney signing off on it is frowned upon but Cohen does not need permission from his lawyer(s) to talk to anybody nor does his lawyer(s) need to be present...It is wise and heavily recommended to seek your lawyers permission before talking to opposing counsel but not required...

Dershowitz is also conveniently leaving out the fact Cohen is still a licensed attorney, not some average Joe that doesn't know the law and can be easily manipulated into saying something he shouldn't...This little fact matters when looking at it from an ethics standpoint and Dershowitz knows that...

All Allen does is Juelz that’s a fact..
 

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Rockefeller Heir Was Contact of Alleged Russian Agent
George O’Neill Jr., conservative columnist, is ‘U.S. Person 2’ in Maria Butina case
By
Aruna Viswanatha and
Julie Bykowicz
July 26, 2018 12:34 p.m. ET
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Charges against Maria Butina, the Russian accused of being a secret foreign agent, name as one of her contacts “U.S. Person 2.” That person is George O’Neill Jr., a Rockefeller heir and conservative writer, interviews and public documents indicate.

Court papers describe Ms. Butina discussing with Americans the idea of holding “friendship dinners” to bring together Russians with politically active Americans. One of those Americans, prosecutors say, hosted such a dinner in February 2017 before that year’s National Prayer Breakfast.

Mr. O’Neill, an heir to the Rockefeller fortune and an outspoken advocate of closer ties with Russia, hosted that event, as he confirmed in a magazine column. The charging documents say Ms. Butina told him that a representative of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s administration had approved “building this communications channel.”


Mr. O’Neill, who hasn’t been accused of wrongdoing, didn’t respond to emails and phone messages. In the charging papers, he isn’t described by name but is called “U.S. Person 2.”

“All that we needed is <<yes>> from Putin’s side. The rest is easier,” Ms. Butina told Mr. O’Neill, according to the court documents, in an apparent effort to relay approval from the Russian government of a U.S-Russian back channel through events like the dinner.

Mr. O’Neill’s involvement helps broaden the picture of Ms. Butina’s efforts in the U.S. She also collaborated with Paul Erickson, a South Dakota-based conservative with a history of debt and fraud cases who is referenced as “U.S. Person 1” in the charges filed against Ms. Butina, The Wall Street Journal reported previously.

Mr. O’Neill and Mr. Erickson were on some of the same emails with Ms. Butina, court papers show. Mr. Erickson didn’t respond to emails and phone messages.

In a column in advance of President Donald Trump’s meeting with Mr. Putin earlier this month, Mr. O’Neill argued that Russia could be a “constructive partner” in working with the U.S. to “stop its wasteful wars.” He founded a group to lobby for a “realistic and restrained foreign policy,” and organized the dinner last year for several Russian officials and Republican lawmakers and others before the Prayer Breakfast.

That dinner, chronicled by Time magazine last year, was a factor in the case against Ms. Butina, who is in jail awaiting trial on charges of being an unregistered foreign agent after her arrest on July 15. In a column last year for the American Conservative, where he is a board member, Mr. O’Neill laid out his involvement in that dinner.

“Some months back I organized a dinner on Capitol Hill that brought together some former and current Russian officials with a number of prominent U.S. Republicans and conservatives, including two congressmen, a conservative magazine publisher, some journalists, and others,” Mr. O’Neill wrote in his April 24, 2017, column.

The American Conservative “did not fund or sponsor the dinner referenced in the George O’Neill column,” the organization’s executive editor, Kelley Beaucar Vlahos, said in response to a request for comment.

Ms. Butina forged relationships with American conservatives, especially members of the National Rifle Association, as she allegedly tried to establish a “back channel” for communications in the hopes of penetrating “the U.S. national decision-making apparatus to advance the agenda of” Russia, according to charges filed against her. NRA representatives haven’t responded to questions.

Ms. Butina has pleaded not guilty to the charges, which her lawyer has characterized as “overblown.”

On Wednesday, Ms. Butina appeared at a brief court hearing in Washington, wearing an orange prison uniform and sitting with her lawyer as prosecutors asked a federal judge to impose a “protective order” on information in the case to prevent its disclosure.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Saunders said prosecutors had more than 1.5 million files to turn over to Ms. Butina’s defense team, but wanted an understanding they wouldn’t be shared publicly. He accused Ms. Butina’s lawyer of talking to the press about the case, including comments that violated local legal rules.

Ms. Butina’s attorney, Robert Driscoll, said he needed to “push back” on mischaracterizations of the case in public. He argued for the return of files the Federal Bureau of Investigation had seized from Ms. Butina’s computer and other papers, saying she should be able to do what she wants with her own documents.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan said at the hearing she would require some sort of protective order, including over Ms. Butina’s documents. Their ownership “doesn’t give it some kind of talisman of protection,” Judge Chutkan said.

The dinner Mr. O’Neill organized in February 2017 was one of the activities surrounding the 2017 National Prayer Breakfast, an annual Washington event attended by senior political figures.

Days later, Ms. Butina emailed Mr. O’Neill to thank him, the FBI affidavit said, saying, “Our delegation cannot stop chatting about your wonderful dinner.”

“My dearest President has received ‘the message’ about...your constructive and kind attention to the Russians,” Ms. Butina told him, the affidavit said.

On Feb. 2, 2017, Ms. Butina shared a Facebook post which included pictures of her and others from the National Prayer Breakfast, which described many “important meetings” with American lawmakers and with “Rockefeller,” apparently a reference to Mr. O’Neill.

Ms. Butina told Mr. O’Neill that Alexander Torshin, one of her key patrons is Russia, was “very much impressed” by him and assured him that “the Russians will support the efforts from our side.”


Mr. Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, isn’t named in court documents but is clearly identifiable from the detailed description of him. He was sanctioned by the U.S. in April.

Mr. O’Neill, 68-years-old, is the great-grandson of John D. Rockefeller Jr., and worked on the 1992 presidential campaign of Pat Buchanan. Ms. Butina’s associate, Mr. Erickson, served as Mr. Buchanan’s political director.

More recently, Mr. O’Neill has worked on antiwar causes, founding a now-defunct group called Come Home America, and a newer effort named the Committee for Responsible Foreign Policy. Another official with the committee, William Dolbow, declined to comment.

Mr. O’Neill is listed as a member of the board of advisers on the website for the Conservation Council of Nations. The nonprofit, which says its goal is to advance U.S. leadership in international conservation, didn’t respond to emails requesting comment.

Mr. O’Neill’s biography on that website describes him as an artist living in Lake Wales, Fla.

—Lisa Schwartz contributed to this article.

Write to Aruna Viswanatha at Aruna.Viswanatha@wsj.com and Julie Bykowicz at julie.bykowicz@wsj.com
 
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