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You going to jail ya bytch:pachaha:

Ima have tweet his ass and say "lock you up! Lock you up!"
 

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This is the thing. On domestic policy, as disgusting the choices they've made - at the end of the day, it's essentially implementing the right wing/tea party style platform. At least the shyt they're doing on the domestic front all are things that their party has said they want to implement. Cutting/gutting the EPA, State Dept., medicaid - as terrible as that sounds, it's all within the confines of political discourse as we have experienced it over the last 20 years.

But the foreign policy moves that Trump is making - there is literally no other reasonable/rational explanation for them, IF you are supposedly working on behalf of the US interests. These decisions ONLY make sense within the context of wanting closer ties with the Russians.

Trump hasn't changed US Foreign Policy though

Nikki Haley is condemning Russia at the UN as Samantha Power did

The US position on Ukraine hasn't changed

He's pivoted a little on Syria but the Pentagon is doing the same anti ISIS strategy, just on overdrive with Kurdish support

He's been increasing drone strikes

There really is no grand change with Trump. He's continuing most Obama foreign policy measures.

The domestic policy stuff may have been in discourse but really limited as the Tea Party isn't even 8 years old and the GOP had unified government just 11 years ago. They spent money like hell and got us in 2 wars and tax cuts they didn't care to pay for.
 

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this is gonna end up being a big nothing. Comey and croonies in the fbi are right wing rethugs. they just poking at trump a little bit
 

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Man, been busy all day, bout to catch up on all this fukkery. Trump is about to speak at another rally. Probably about to spazz out and dig a deeper hole. Its going to be hard for Trump to distract from today though.

You know he's gonna be on overdrive tonight. They have a new talking point with the "unmasking" so expect that to be the new location of the goalpost.
 

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The US position on Ukraine hasn't changed
The Republican Party's position on Ukraine has.:sas1:

It's the only part of their platform Trump demanded they alter.:sas2:


"It's gonna be great, folks. We'll have great Hindu in Ukraine. We'll move on them like a bytch. SAD."
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this is gonna end up being a big nothing. Comey and croonies in the fbi are right wing rethugs. they just poking at trump a little bit

you think they would go this far to poke at Trump?:comeon:

Brehs hate that orange prick on both sides of the aisles and the FBI HATES Russia:birdman:
 

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Trump hasn't changed US Foreign Policy though

Nikki Haley is condemning Russia at the UN as Samantha Power did

The US position on Ukraine hasn't changed

He's pivoted a little on Syria but the Pentagon is doing the same anti ISIS strategy, just on overdrive with Kurdish support

He's been increasing drone strikes

There really is no grand change with Trump. He's continuing most Obama foreign policy measures.

The domestic policy stuff may have been in discourse but really limited as the Tea Party isn't even 8 years old and the GOP had unified government just 11 years ago. They spent money like hell and got us in 2 wars and tax cuts they didn't care to pay for.
Its not like the political environment is conducive to do these things with the spotlight on him at the moment. However, its not like people are speculating on the idea of Trump changing US's standing regarding Russia. The RNC changed its official policy after the convention and the actions of people like Flynn and Trump have only seemed to supportive of policy changed. After the sanctions were passed in Oct. Trump is the one who was tweeting "don't worry, things will be different soon".

it seems like there are two factions in the white house right now. The typical conservative wing with Preibus and Pence, and the nationalist populist wing of Trump and Bannon. The reason this schism exists dates back to something that happened during the campaign. John Kaisch spilled the beans on this. Trump approach Kaisch for the VP spot and told him that he would simply be the "face" and would allow Kaisch to really run the show basically. Kaisch said no. Pence obviously has less integrity and took it.

This is probably why we see this continued series of disconnect between what Trump, Bannon, Miller, Gorka, et al, are pushing for vs what more than likely is being led by Pence and more traditional conservatives behind the scenes.

If we entertain that at worst, maybe people like Manafort, Trump's lawyer(name escapes me), Flynn, and Page were paid lobbyist for Russian Interests to get Trump to enact certain policy, maybe they simply underestimated how fast Trump would implode.

We do know for example, that Trump's lawyer was working with a Pro-russian Ukranian parliamentarian to develop a "peace plan" to gift Crimea and help install the pro-Russian government in the Ukraine and this was "hand delivered" to Trump. So again, this stuff doesn't seem to be totally baseless. That is just one example of a lot of circumstantial evidence that points to at least the rhetoric of the Trump campaign being more "Russia friendly" even if actual policy hasn't yet matched it. I think the reason for this is because they realize there is a lot of heat at the moment and it would be a shytshow if they make any moves in this direction yet. If Trump sticks around for four years, I expect an incremental softening instead of a rapid change in policy if attention slowly declines regarding this issue.
 
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you think they would go this far to poke at Trump?:comeon:

Brehs hate that orange prick on both sides of the aisles and the FBI HATES Russia:birdman:
then why did he pull that stunt(hillary emails) days before the election and nothing on trump when they had been investigating for 3 months? :mjgrin:
 
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