ROSS; Rape 'is not always rape’,

[Tom Shady]

Ross sparked outrage by suggesting that “provocatively dressed” women who go out “unescorted” were akin to a bank “storing sacks of cash by the door”.

He claimed that some victims had gone “too far” by leading men on.

Ross’s comments were condemned by women’s groups as “provocative, crude and really horrible”.

The presenter acknowledged that his words would be viewed as “heresy” by many who questioned whether “women should ever be held responsible at all”.

Yesterday Ross defended his comments, saying he had been quoting research in his book, and that he had been a champion of Victim Support for years.

But he later clarified: “Women’s dress is neither a contributor or excuse for assault.”

In a serialisation of his new book, Ross said: “We would laugh at a bank that stored sacks of cash by the front door. We would be aghast if an airport badly skimped on its security measures.

“Our forebears might be astonished at how safe women are today given what throughout history would have been regarded as incitement.

Not even in the licentious days of Charles II in the 17th century was it acceptable for women to dress as provocatively as they have done in Western culture since the 1960s.

“Equally, they would be baffled that girls are mostly unescorted, stay out late, often get profoundly drunk and sometimes openly kiss, grope or go to bed with one-night stands.”

He claimed that half of all women who had unwilling penetrative sex do not think they have been raped, with victims believing “they led him on, they went too far, it wasn’t forcible, they didn’t make themselves clear …”

He added that “for them, rape isn’t always rape”, no matter how upsetting.

In a statement, Ross, 65, insisted that his book was “serious, carefully researched and evidence-based”, and described rape as “one of the most defiling crimes”.

He said: “Far from attacking victims, the chapter explores why so few victims report rape, why so few prosecutions take place, and whether criminal courts are the best way of helping to deal with the appalling suffering caused by sex attacks.


“For the record, lest it needs saying, and, as I make clear in the published extracts, anyone who suffers such a violating crime should be the centre of our concerns.”

He said the book cited research that found many victims themselves do not regard what happened to them as rape, “even though in law it plainly was”.

Ross said it “sickens and appals” him that people could now assume he blames victims or “belittle what they suffer”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-always-rape-says-TV-presenter-Nick-Ross.html

 

[BlvdBrawler]

Agree and disagree.

Women dress provocatively in order to attract men; it's for attention. Sometimes, they're going to attract the attention of rapists. It doesn't mean that they were asking for it, it just means they made themselves a target.

 

[Bud Bundy]

blaming the victim. I wonder if you can use this same mentality for having slaves.

"Well if they were strong enough they would not be slaves"

 

[bnm8907]

Ross needs to just fall back.

Bruh

Take your L and keep it moving.

 

[Mowgli]

Men have been known to stick their dikks in the holes in the side of the pool. A woman dressed like a street walker with the attitude of a church girl walking around rapists filled with liquor is putting her holes in jeopardy.

 

[Prodigital]

blaming the victim. I wonder if you can use this same mentality for having slaves.

"Well if they were strong enough they would not be slaves"

Not the same. Getting raped after rocking a miniskirt and bra down a dark alleyway should in some way be fault of the victim. All this anti victim blaming shields women who DO live dangerous lifestyles and DO actively seek the attention of shady individuals.

Its not about victim blaming, but accountability. Doesn't change how a suspect should be charged... i just don't think every person that gets raped deserves a group hug.

 

[Fillerguy]

Not the same. Getting raped after rocking a miniskirt and bra down a dark alleyway should in some way be fault of the victim. All this anti victim blaming shields women who DO live dangerous lifestyles and DO actively seek the attention of shady individuals.

Its not about victim blaming, but accountability. Doesn't change how a suspect should be charged... i just don't think every person that gets raped deserves a group hug.

I know you think you made a point but you didnt.

 

[Fervid]

I don't like the victim blaming, but I tell my daughter all the time that if she continues to wear short shorts she's bound to get some unwanted attention.
It's just a reality that can't be ignored.

 

[Prodigital]

I know you think you made a point but you didnt.

You're right, i stated an opinion. Sorry you didn't understand that..

 

[avon barksdale]

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[mastermind]

most rapes are committed by a person the victim knows.

 

[newarkhiphop]

 

[Yapdatfool]

most rapes are committed by a person the victim knows.

And those rapists are the ones who see the women wearing 'provocative' stuff every day, cause the women are more confortable around people they know...
talk about unwanted attention

 

[Rice N Beans]

Not the same. Getting raped after rocking a miniskirt and bra down a dark alleyway should in some way be fault of the victim. All this anti victim blaming shields women who DO live dangerous lifestyles and DO actively seek the attention of shady individuals.

Its not about victim blaming, but accountability. Doesn't change how a suspect should be charged... i just don't think every person that gets raped deserves a group hug.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Not the same. Getting raped after rocking a miniskirt and bra down a dark alleyway should in some way be fault of the victim. All this anti victim blaming shields women who DO live dangerous lifestyles and DO actively seek the attention of shady individuals.

Its not about victim blaming, but accountability. Doesn't change how a suspect should be charged... i just don't think every person that gets raped deserves a group hug.

kind of like walking down a dangerous neighborhood with nice clothes on.

i can see where your coming from but we do not have laws that say you should not dress a certain way in certain places for a reason. Sure common sense is involved but the criminal made up there mind to commit that act.