Rollin in this 64 (years) w/ kneecaps & draft picks on deck: The 2021 Detroit Lions Official Thread

[djthegreat88]

Couple more penalties on Sewell today (one was declined) plus a sack. Running game was non-existent. So many people were killing the Bengals for drafting Chase instead of Sewell and now they look ready for a playoff spot because he's been so good.

This pick is gonna eat at me like so many Lions picks over the years.

Big difference is that Burrow can manipulate pockets and sense pressure. Goff makes oline look worse than they are. And lets not act like Burrow didn’t just have neck injury last week. He still takes too many hits. I’ll always prioritize oline over skill positions

Why would pick eat at you? We didn’t pass on Chase for Sewell. He was picked before our pick

 

[Piff Perkins]

If Chase was drafted here the local media would have spent all camp detailing his dropped passes, and once the season started and Goff didn’t have time to hit Chase downfield we’d be discussing him only having 200 yards and 1 TD so far. Let’s be real. This fanbase sucks and the media is terrible.

This is a rebuilding year yet we’ve gotta talk about benching a QB who has no weapons? Three weeks in Sewell looked generational, now he’s a bust? Chill. The only takeaways we should have are

1. who will be here next season and who won’t

2. what are the draft priorities

3. what are FA priorities

We’re watching an impressive tank job by a terrible team. Let’s finish the mission and get our generational DE with the first pick…

 

[Regular_P]

Big difference is that Burrow can manipulate pockets and sense pressure. Goff makes oline look worse than they are. And lets not act like Burrow didn’t just have neck injury last week. He still takes too many hits. I’ll always prioritize oline over skill positions

Why would pick eat at you? We didn’t pass on Chase for Sewell. He was picked before our pick

I would have taken Smith. I think skill position talent wins more now than o-line. Recent champs and contenders have generally had quite a bit of skill position talent.

I agree that Burrow (and good QBs) can manipulate pockets and their lines. That's why I think it's overrated to draft linemen high. Of all positions, I think they can be coached up or schemed for. Look at the difference a change in scenery made for Riley Reiff and Laken Tomlinson.

If Chase was drafted here the local media would have spent all camp detailing his dropped passes, and once the season started and Goff didn’t have time to hit Chase downfield we’d be discussing him only having 200 yards and 1 TD so far. Let’s be real. This fanbase sucks and the media is terrible.

This is a rebuilding year yet we’ve gotta talk about benching a QB who has no weapons? Three weeks in Sewell looked generational, now he’s a bust? Chill. The only takeaways we should have are

1. who will be here next season and who won’t

2. what are the draft priorities

3. what are FA priorities

We’re watching an impressive tank job by a terrible team. Let’s finish the mission and get our generational DE with the first pick…

Cincy's media was doing that too.

If Chase was open all the time like he has been in Cincy, Goff would be getting roasted, not Chase. Goff is getting roasted by his own coach RIGHT NOW because he can't read a defense.

This team is gonna have a new QB sooner rather than later. I want them walking into a good situation with skill position players already on the roster. There's a reason Brady left New England and Rodgers wants out of Green Bay. Their teams prioritized a bunch of other bullshyt over getting them weapons.

 

[Regular_P]

Look at the teams with the best records in the league right now. What do they all have in common?

Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Bucs, Rams, Cardinals, Cowboys and Packers. The Packers and Ravens aren't as loaded as the rest of them but one has Aaron Rodgers and the other has a singularly unique talent in Lamar Jackson with a perfect system in place to maximize his abilities.

 

[djthegreat88]

Look at the teams with the best records in the league right now. What do they all have in common?

Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Bucs, Rams, Cardinals, Cowboys and Packers. The Packers and Ravens aren't as loaded as the rest of them but one has Aaron Rodgers and the other has a singularly unique talent in Lamar Jackson with a perfect system in place to maximize his abilities.

Why I’m all aboard the Willis hype train. The offense honestly isn’t far away. Its a healthy oline and a couple wrs away from being in good position. This coming FA class and draft class are strong at WR. See no reason why Lions couldn’t implement a run first Baltimore like offense with the talent we already have. Have two good backs, prowbowl caliber TE, and potentially one of the better olines in NFL. Willis is best dual threat qb available. I know he’s not Lamar Jackson but the pieces are already there to mimic elements of their offense

 

[LordLyons]

This is what we get for wanting Caldwell gone

 

[IrateMastermind]

If Chase was drafted here the local media would have spent all camp detailing his dropped passes, and once the season started and Goff didn’t have time to hit Chase downfield we’d be discussing him only having 200 yards and 1 TD so far. Let’s be real. This fanbase sucks and the media is terrible.

This is a rebuilding year yet we’ve gotta talk about benching a QB who has no weapons? Three weeks in Sewell looked generational, now he’s a bust? Chill. The only takeaways we should have are

1. who will be here next season and who won’t

2. what are the draft priorities

3. what are FA priorities

We’re watching an impressive tank job by a terrible team. Let’s finish the mission and get our generational DE with the first pick…

who? the DE from Oregon? He has 2 sacks and 8 tackles this season. Garret hat 11 sacks his last season.

 

[Regular_P]

Burke: Lions need more from Jared Goff or another QB search may loom in 2022

In spite of an uninspired first quarter from their offense, the Lions trailed the Bengals just 7-0 on Sunday early in the second and managed to piece together something that resembled a drive. On a third-and-4 from the Cincinnati 38, they dialed up a perfect call — a pick play to Jared Goff’s left, with tight end T.J. Hockenson running a wheel route behind a legal blockade from wide receiver KhaDarel Hodge.

The action forced Bengals linebacker Akeem Davis-Gaither to loop around Hodge, toward the line of scrimmage. Hockenson ran past him, toward the sideline, wide open.

And Goff missed him.

Detroit’s quarterback later said that he and Hockenson were “kinda just on different pages,” perhaps implying that he threw it where he thought Hockenson would be. But it was a wide-open opportunity for a big play, on a day in which the Lions couldn’t generate any of them. It had to be a completion.

It only got worse on the next play. Lions coach Dan Campbell opted to go for it on fourth-and-4, but the blocking broke down almost immediately. Left tackle Penei Sewell took a holding penalty to keep Goff from being clobbered. Goff, having seen the flag, rolled to his left and threw the ball away, calculating as he went that Cincinnati would accept that penalty and Detroit would punt.

Except … that’s not how it works. The Bengals, of course, declined the 10-yard infraction and took over possession.

“I had a complete lapse of judgment of, ‘OK, they’re gonna bring this ball back,’” Goff said after the Lions’ humiliating 34-11 loss to the Bengals. “… That was on me. Just kinda thinking through that one the wrong way.”

Of greater consequence, however, is the rest of what Campbell said there. The Lions need Goff not to dink and dunk and play for the next down, but to give them a few plays per game that tip the scales in their favor.

Is he capable of doing that? If not, do the Lions know all they need to know about how Goff fits into the immediate future?

Everyone knew the challenges facing the Lions heading into this season, even accepted them as part of the rebuilding process — Holmes had to blowtorch the hell out of the Bob Quinn era to move the franchise forward.

Still, so much of Year One under Holmes and Campbell has been — and will continue to be — about figuring out whom the Lions could bank on headed into next season and beyond. They never penciled Goff into that “and beyond” category, but 2022? Absolutely. He was their safeguard so they didn’t have to chase a QB in the draft, if there wasn’t one they wanted to cement in their foundation.

Unless Goff starts trending in the other direction, though, the Lions are going to have no choice but to shift their timeline. They cannot head into ‘22 feeling this uncertain about their quarterback play. They might not be able to go a lot longer in ‘21 without reaching that same breaking point.

“There’s some guys that MA’d (missed assignments) too, and he’s trying to make a throw with guys that are MA’ing,” said Campbell, pointedly, when asked if Goff was holding the Lions’ offense back. “He can’t even trust where the hell they’re supposed to be at. He’s gotta make some throws and our receivers gotta be where they’re supposed to be, when they’re supposed to be there. … But I know. I know.”

Those are the built-in obstacles — a roster that was talent-starved to begin with and has been clobbered by injuries at key spots. This receiver group, despite the presence of promising rookie Amon-Ra St. Brown and a rising contributor in Kalif Raymond, is arguably the worst in the NFL. So, Campbell’s right. No one can fully judge Goff right now, because he’s so often stranded on an island.

But the Lions can’t give him a free pass, either. They cannot pin everything on the depth chart around Goff and let their starting quarterback cruise on through to next season. Every week — every day — needs to be a small step toward competitiveness, for a team that’s buried at the bottom of the league. Sunday wasn’t one.

And if Goff can’t push things forward, even when everyone else is stuck, well … there’s your answer.

 

[IrateMastermind]

Burke: Lions need more from Jared Goff or another QB search may loom in 2022

I read that shyt last night

 

[djthegreat88]

Rapaport reporting lions in market for WR. I’d buy low OBJ . What you got to lose. Only year and half left on his deal

 

[IrateMastermind]

Dolphins, eagles and Panthers trade talks for Watson heating up. Looks like the Fords ain’t having it cuz there’s no reason for us not to kick tires otherwise.

 

[Regular_P]

Dolphins, eagles and Panthers trade talks for Watson heating up. Looks like the Fords ain’t having it cuz there’s no reason for us not to kick tires otherwise.

The Lions are never in on big names or game changers. If they don't draft them, it ain't happening. WOAT ownership in sports history.

 

[djthegreat88]

Looks like they might shut Decker down too now. Definitely purposely tanking at this point

 

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Deshaun has a no trade clause and the Lions have the worst WR corp/ roster in the NFL..

He and his lawyer would block that with the quickness

 

[IrateMastermind]

The Lions are never in on big names or game changers. If they don't draft them, it ain't happening. WOAT ownership in sports history.

I think he still has a no trade clause