Rodrigo Duterte Ordered Philippine Killings, Professed Hit Man Testifies

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Malaysia has extremely strict drug laws, but they're not legitimizing vigilantism. There's still due process in Malaysia. In the Philippines, thanks to Duterte and his declared state of lawlessness, that doesn't exist. Surely, you can at lest admit that vigilante justice is dangerous and easily abused.
1. So because Malaysia has strict drug laws makes it better. Judge, Jury and Executioner still applies. Due process is hard to do in a country with bias of zero tolerance, even if the person is innocent.
2. Never said the vigilante justice is right for the country. I dont agree with it, however Philippines has been controlled by violent gangs and corruption in the police force and public office for decades. Violence wasnt spoken out against until now.
 

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1. So because Malaysia has strict drug laws makes it better. Judge, Jury and Executioner still applies. Due process is hard to do in a country with bias of zero tolerance, even if the person is innocent.
2. Never said the vigilante justice is right for the country. I dont agree with it, however Philippines has been controlled by violent gangs and corruption in the police force and public office for decades. Violence wasnt spoken out against until now.
Don't put words in my mouth. I never claimed that. Just that there's a stark difference between strict laws and lawless vigilantism. Your point on bias in a zero tolerance system is interesting though. Do you have anything I can read up on? And I don't agree that violence was never spoken out against until now - the attacks on indigenous people in the Philippines was always talked about. Duterte's violence as mayor of Davao was always talked about, too; so it makes sense that him exposing that level of violence to the whole country would make even more headlines.

The kill list: how the Philippines’ leader is letting people get away with murder | Tom Smith

The kill lists are largely the work of the police. Election rhetoric has quickly become policy with executions on the streets. Some reports estimate that 10 people are killed a day , but nothing can be verified: police forces are able to rely on self-defence, avoiding legal accountability even though there is a strong suggestion that innocent people are being caught up in the carnage.

One such case is that of 22-year-old Rowena Tiamson, a choir member whose body was found with hands bound and eyes and mouth sealed. Her desperate parents are pleading to have her corpse tested in an attempt for justice. What could be a mistaken identity is more likely to be a case of the war on drugs becoming a convenient cover for murder. Tiamson was not on her local kill list, the authorities have been forced to admit.
 
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Don't put words in my mouth. I never claimed that. Just that there's a stark difference between strict laws and lawless vigilantism. Your point on bias in a zero tolerance system is interesting though. Do you have anything I can read up on? And I don't agree that violence was never spoken out against until now - the attacks on indigenous people in the Philippines was always talked about. Duterte's violence as mayor of Davao was always talked about, too; so it makes sense that him exposing that level of violence to the whole country would make even more headlines.

The kill list: how the Philippines’ leader is letting people get away with murder | Tom Smith
I never put words in your mouth. Im stating my point. You posted that article doesnt change anything i put in here. Now people complain about the violence in the Philippines.
 

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I never put words in your mouth. Im stating my point. You posted that article doesnt change anything i put in here. Now people complain about the violence in the Philippines.
Huh? No offense, but is English not your first language? Further, I posted that link to highlight the dangers of state-approved vigilantism. And as far as complaining about violence in the Philippines, my last point covered that. Why are you arguing in such a dishonest way?
 
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Huh? No offense, but is English not your first language? Further, I posted that link to highlight the dangers of state-approved vigilantism. And as far as complaining about violence in the Philippines, my last point covered that. Why are you arguing in such a dishonest way?
Condescending when you obviously cant put your point across. I see that miles away. Wide spread violence existed in that country for decades but somehow its an issue now.
 

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Condescending when you obviously cant put your point across. I see that miles away. Wide spread violence existed in that country for decades but somehow its an issue now.
That's not a problem on my end. You're ignoring what I'm saying for whatever reason. And again, these issues aren't just being raised *now*. I even posted two examples for you.
 
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That's not a problem on my end. You're ignoring what I'm saying for whatever reason. And again, these issues aren't just being raised *now*. I even posted two examples for you.
Your examples focus on Duerte not before him but keep acting like you care about the pinoy people.
 
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Honesty isnt in your nature. Ive explained to you earlier that Duerte plan is wrong but it seems like its not good enough for you.
I accepted that. I was disputing your claim that only *now* was violence being talked about. This leads back to my assuming that English isn't your native language. But whatever, you're going to play ignorant for whatever reason, so I'm done.
 
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I accepted that. I was disputing your claim that only *now* was violence being talked about. This leads back to my assuming that English isn't your native language. But whatever, you're going to play ignorant for whatever reason, so I'm done.
Ignorance to what? U made your point but it doesnt focus collectively on the terrible issues that have plagued the Pinoy People for decades.
 

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When you don't have the resources to enforce laws you just kill the bad guys until their numbers are low enough to manage in a more peaceful manner.

Is there a problem?

OK let's act like if there were no police we'd live by the same rules of law :mjlol:
 
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