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Still awaiting that Spotify drop
Still awaiting that Spotify drop
We may have to do a separate thread altogether about Roc changing the underground culture in the 10’s. Because it’s definitely a discussion worth having.
We need to start having a serious discussion about where Roc Marci fits in on an all-time GOAT list.I said the same thing earlier in the thread.
To me - he's the connective tissue between the 90's,00's and 10's having really broken into the public consciousness on a song with Busta - who was putting up crazy numbers at the time. Raekwon, who is a legend forever off OB4CL, Large Professor - who is one of the architects of New York's sound and peak Ghost, just three months after Supreme Clientele dropped.
For a rapper out of New York - there isn't really a better co-sign you can get.
Then he started running with Pete Rock.
After that - to me he had carte blanche to do what he wanted artistically.
It reminds me a bit of Doom and Nas linking up with Serch in the late 80's/ eary 90's. Doom popping off post KMD kind of stalled after all the things he went through personally, but Nas is still getting every bit of value possible off that initial mainstream co-sign. It didn't hurt that cats like Large Professor believed in him enough to have him around Rakim and G Rap sessions when he was a kid either.
Edit: Thinking about it - Jay falls into this category as well, having come up as Kane and Jaz O's young homie.
I said the same thing earlier in the thread.
To me - he's the connective tissue between the 90's,00's and 10's having really broken into the public consciousness on a song with Busta - who was putting up crazy numbers at the time. Raekwon, who is a legend forever off OB4CL, Large Professor - who is one of the architects of New York's sound and peak Ghost, just three months after Supreme Clientele dropped.
For a rapper out of New York - there isn't really a better co-sign you can get.
Then he started running with Pete Rock.
After that - to me he had carte blanche to do what he wanted artistically.
It reminds me a bit of Doom and Nas linking up with Serch in the late 80's/ eary 90's. Doom popping off post KMD kind of stalled initially after all the things he went through personally, but Nas is still getting every bit of value possible off that initial mainstream co-sign. It didn't hurt that cats like Large Professor believed in him enough to have him around Rakim and G Rap sessions when he was a kid either.
Edit: Thinking about it - Jay falls into this category as well, having come up as Kane and Jaz O's young homie.
I do hear the doom influence in his bars. His verses definitely reminds me of doom. But Roc took the underground version of street rap to modern times. He seems to be the common thread in a lot of hip hop movements since 2010. If DOOM is the godfather of underground rap then Roc is godfather of goon rapThat's the point right there. DOOM is the godfather. Roc carried the torch after him but you can hear DOOM in most of the underground whether it's the beats, flow, or the rhymes.