RIP Kevin Samuels

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Apparently. Not sure about the lack of intimacy, I want to say no. Married for 3ish years. The husband's story is he couldn't keep his dikk in his pants.


K
Believe it or not, infidelities isn’t a deal breaker in most relationships
 

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I think i have finally understood why kev was getting all the hate. Its not because he is a man talking.....but the fact that he is a black man talking.

These motherrfukkaas hate it whenever a black man speaks about wanting better....all that a black man can expect out of a woman is a fat ass.....and you lucky if that fat ass don't come with a fat gut.

anytime a black man wants better for his people they demonize him and hate on him....but they be praising these other dudes who live of the destruction of black folk.

Shyt is draining
Naw, it was the delivery. We’re talking about a community where many of the women didn’t grow up with dad in the house. A lot of our women didn’t get that “tough love” from a man growing up and don’t know how to receive it as an adult. I personally have no issue with men who spoke like KS because I have nothing but strong-willed accomplished Black men in my family who will dress you down if you get out of order, even as an adult.

Which is why I’m cool with tough men in the workplace and prefer male trainers/instructors.

The diff is I know where to go for tough love and guidance that includes a hug and genuine concern for my well-being.

My military uncle will yell at me and tell me I’m getting fat, so I go kill it in the gym. He doesn’t play crazy music making fun of fat women on the internet for the world to see when correcting me.

The women also suffered from low self-esteem to even consider calling in to a YouTube channel to ask for advice on the world stage. Anonymity is priceless.
 

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It was an if, not that you do....

can your childrens father do the same?
You might be one of the women that does the right things and that is commendable....

I am not saying this as some rough tough man who put women in check....
if I am speaking to my wife it has to be done in a certain way....
if my female family members it has to be done in a certain way....

apparently the majority of women cannot handle direct truth.....
which is what majority of the women complain about with Kevin...
"his tone, his delivery, so disrespectful"
whilst men are wondering what the heck yall talking about....
why?
we know what disrespecting a woman is....
we know what a pimp type man is who will tell women anything...
we know how easy it is to get along if we agree with women NO MATTER WHAT....

if we are to be direct....the men who are trying to help and guide you women are actually enemies of men like Steve Harvey who want the easy poosy......
it is almost "hating"....
and the worst thing a man can do is stop another man getting poosy....
smarter women equals less poosy for certain men....
hope those who do not understand smarten up..
This is true. I mean this is what happens when there aren’t real men leading the household/family.

You’re supposed to get the real from your family. These convos shouldn’t be happening on freaking YouTube SMDH
 

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It's funny, because in China, MEN are actually the ones leftover. Because China had that one-child policy in effect for so long and families preferred boys (and they would kill baby girls), now there's a whole lot more men than women. With women getting educated, having careers, making their own money, some of these women said to hell with marriage = even less women for these millions of men to marry.

China recognized their fukk up: The one-child policy men grew up and wanted wives but couldn't find partners because of the significant gender imbalance, and a lot of the available women weren't pressed to get married, so what does China do? They shame the women into getting married by calling them leftover women. It's the biggest gaslight ever.
Thank you!
Thank you for getting it! Women were devalued to the point that they literally TRASHED baby girls, now that men can’t find wives, the girls that families never wanted decided to take care of themselves and now they are leftovers.

Dawg. Men do not understand when women say we have it harder. They LITERALLY trashed their daughters and now you’re a leftover if you don’t marry quickly enough. You have such a small window of “value”, some just say f!ck it.
 

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This is true. I mean this is what happens when there aren’t real men leading the household/family.

You’re supposed to get the real from your family. These convos shouldn’t be happening on freaking YouTube SMDH

The convos Kevin was having related to the rich and powerful.....
and those who want to get there or be around those people....
most of our parents/family cannot teach us those things....do not know how to...

we would usually have to join a frat, business groups, clubs etc to learn certain things....
those circles do not usually allow anyone in....

there are women that would not give me a chance no matter what...why?
Family name, education, bank account, investments, conduct etc etc etc
that is a different world of people and expectations....

Yes Youtube can teach you a lot...sadly....for many...family does not have the info
 

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The convos Kevin was having related to the rich and powerful.....
and those who want to get there or be around those people....
most of our parents/family cannot teach us those things....do not know how to...

we would usually have to join a frat, business groups, clubs etc to learn certain things....
those circles do not usually allow anyone in....

there are women that would not give me a chance no matter what...why?
Family name, education, bank account, investments, conduct etc etc etc
that is a different world of people and expectations....

Yes Youtube can teach you a lot...sadly....for many...family does not have the info
Oh, I know.

Honestly, I commented on a YT channel once and said that the biggest problem we now have is that a whole new group of people have received information that wasn’t for them.

And I’m not saying that to be elitist AT ALL.

This information is no good in the hands of someone who is literally simply trying to social climb, because it’s easy to uncover. A lot of people are simply trying to make it and correct generational traumas and learn how to work through this system without all this added pressure!

I couldn’t care less about white folks because my family taught us how to deal with them in corporate settings when we were kids. They never let us think we were less than or needed their approval. And the ppl in my friend group operate the same way because that’s how their families raised them too.

I’ll never forget I had gone to dinner with someone (a brotha who wanted to make it clear that he interracially dated) who seemed to think he was better than me, until he found out which schools I attended and what fields my relatives were in. The icing on the cake was that he didn’t have much of a pedigree at all. Like, AT ALL. His attitude completely changed and he suddenly became Mr NiceGuy. Straight Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde. It was clear he was attracted to Black women, but didn’t think we were what he needed socially, unless, of course, you have connections. I run from men like that, because I don’t judge men that way, even though I could. Our people have been through too much to hold ourselves to some of these insane standards.

These are things you can sometimes pick up based on how someone carries themselves, though. Most of this is stuff you aren’t even taught- it’s just culture and the way life is set up for you and around you.
 

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This is true. I mean this is what happens when there aren’t real men leading the household/family.

You’re supposed to get the real from your family. These convos shouldn’t be happening on freaking YouTube SMDH

A lot of families simply don't know how and were never taught. People love to demonize social media but can't a give a solid answer to the question 'if black boys have no guidance from family, church, school etc where should they go to get answers?' Coli loves to call black men 'fatherless' and poke fun at any sort of mentorship online or IRL yet refuses to give practical advice on how to resolve this.
 

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Oh, I know.

Honestly, I commented on a YT channel once and said that the biggest problem we now have is that a whole new group of people have received information that wasn’t for them.

And I’m not saying that to be elitist AT ALL.

This information is no good in the hands of someone who is literally simply trying to social climb, because it’s easy to uncover. A lot of people are simply trying to make it and correct generational traumas and learn how to work through this system without all this added pressure!

I couldn’t care less about white folks because my family taught us how to deal with them in corporate settings when we were kids. They never let us think we were less than or needed their approval. And the ppl in my friend group operate the same way because that’s how their families raised them too.

I’ll never forget I had gone to dinner with someone (a brotha who wanted to make it clear that he interracially dated) who seemed to think he was better than me, until he found out which schools I attended and what fields my relatives were in. The icing on the cake was that he didn’t have much of a pedigree at all. Like, AT ALL. His attitude completely changed and he suddenly became Mr NiceGuy. Straight Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde. It was clear he was attracted to Black women, but didn’t think we were what he needed socially, unless, of course, you have connections. I run from men like that, because I don’t judge men that way, even though I could. Our people have been through too much to hold ourselves to some of these insane standards.

These are things you can sometimes pick up based on how someone carries themselves, though. Most of this is stuff you aren’t even taught- it’s just culture and the way life is set up for you and around you.

you said a lottttttt.....
a very uncomfortable discussion for many....
I remember seeing the kids of the rich in dc....playing tennis etc
BLACK KIDS.....
and they would almost run or sneer if the hood kids got closer....

it is the major dagger at the heart of many who have such strong feelings against Kevin...
they do not belong....would not be welcomed....and would be an alien in certain circles...
and as you said....most things CANNOT be taught....takes years..
there is a poster here who I like....he from one of those families....another lives in the same city yet loves hood shyt....
the guy with the "pedigree" and connections would say things like..."oh I know him"...
might seem a simple thing...
yet "I know him" can ruin or build....
these people talk amongst each other....
conduct is everything.....
yet yes very very good post
 

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you said a lottttttt.....
a very uncomfortable discussion for many....
I remember seeing the kids of the rich in dc....playing tennis etc
BLACK KIDS.....
and they would almost run or sneer if the hood kids got closer....

it is the major dagger at the heart of many who have such strong feelings against Kevin...
they do not belong....would not be welcomed....and would be an alien in certain circles...
and as you said....most things CANNOT be taught....takes years..
there is a poster here who I like....he from one of those families....another lives in the same city yet loves hood shyt....
the guy with the "pedigree" and connections would say things like..."oh I know him"...
might seem a simple thing...
yet "I know him" can ruin or build....
these people talk amongst each other....
conduct is everything.....
yet yes very very good post
Oh trust, I KNOW.

I was always in a weird position because guys wanted to get married because they thought I was pretty, or because of my family. Like, legit “wouldn’t it be great if our families united” conversations. I’ll probably end up marrying someone who is in the same frat as some of my family because he’s also in the same field as some of my other relatives 😩. And the problem is he probably already had this sh!t planned out before I even realized it 😭 (although he’s perfect in every way).

I won’t even lie, I haven’t even begun to live up to my family’s rep, but simply because of what I’ve learned and watching them move, I don’t reaaally stress because they already charted the path.

I’m in a weird space because my mom was a princess who was able to get by on her looks and family name, while everyone else decided to grind it out to essentially continue the legacy (in a sense). It’s part of my frustration with her, part of why I’m stressed (because I worry about her since she didn’t remarry) and a reason for my soul-searching because she was literally given so much and she took it for granted. But she had the privilege to do that.
It’s a mix of her being a little troubled so family helped her, but I can tell she got so used to it she knew it wouldn’t end. So she pretty much raised me to do the same. But life doesn’t work like that! And it feels weird to only be valued for what you look like. It’s actually made me more independent than I should be because I hate the idea of people thinking I’m incapable.

And that’s the thing with KS’s message. He wasn’t wrong at all, and there are definitely unrealistic women out there! But people always want to talk about women getting married; very few people talk about what women may go through in these “high value” circles and why the women who maintain careers may have better outcomes than the housewives. The pressure to keep up appearances and pretend things aren’t bothering you when you know your daughter may grow up to go through some of the same sh!t… When you’ve ACTUALLY witnessed some sh!t you are in no rush to get down the aisle. Being a REAL wife/mother is never-ending and thankless and you can still get dropped for the younger model.

Makes you question religion and what they teach us and why, because most of those vows and teachings aren’t followed. So when you realize it’s really all about keeping society civil and organized…You look at all of it differently.

I’m rambling. A lot of this stuff is just people being pretentious and not actually about building the community.
 
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