RIP: Ethiopian Airlines Crash, 157 killed, Most countries now barring Boeing 737 MAX 8 and 9s

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Why would they put it back in the air the next day after that happened?
Same shyt I'm wondering. Idk if he kept it to himself or the airlines just brushed off this incident because they thought it was an anomaly. It's kind of scary when you think about it. Hopefully heads roll.
 

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:why:Are you suggesting FAA incompetency is a form and function of the "free market"?
Is this slowly morphing into a 'there was no state regulatory body' responsible situation?:picard:
Government agencies are really going to dodge accountability again...:snoop:
See the post above yours. :picard:

Still point the finger at government agencies instead of the demonic company, brehs. :snoop:
 

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See the post above yours. :picard:

Still point the finger at government agencies instead of the demonic company, brehs. :snoop:
:stopitslime:There is a government body in place to protect against this type of negligence, it was either inept or complicit.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0ac73f49662_story.html?utm_term=.423560a037e4
“Obviously, Boeing went through a process which was rather atypical of the normal certification process and it is becoming more apparent that the FAA either knowingly or unwittingly was an accomplice to Boeing violating the normal procedures,” he said.

:obama:One of the lawyers suing gets it.
Sue the government for billions my g:salute:
 

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I'll never understand the desire to hold "greedy capitalist" more accountable than the government agencies put in place to protect you from them.
If those agencies aren't accountable and allowed to fail then...:snoop:fukk it, never mind. Down with Boeing!
 

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Why would they put it back in the air the next day after that happened?

Same shyt I'm wondering. Idk if he kept it to himself or the airlines just brushed off this incident because they thought it was an anomaly. It's kind of scary when you think about it. Hopefully heads roll.

It's completely insane. At the very least you have to tell the next crew what happened. Blows my mind.




I'll never understand the desire to hold "greedy capitalist" more accountable than the government agencies put in place to protect you from them.
If those agencies aren't accountable and allowed to fail then...:snoop:fukk it, never mind. Down with Boeing!

Because the government agency corruption proceeds directly from the "greedy capitalism". It's been proven across the world that corruption follows from income inequality (there is a direct correlation and the inequality emerges before the corruption does, then they grow together). The government right now is on a 40-year experiment to see what happens if you reduce regulation and allow lobbyists from the the industry themselves to run the show.
 

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Because the government agency corruption proceeds directly from the "greedy capitalism".
Who do you believe should be more beholden and accountable to the people? Private industry or our government?







I believe government should always be subject to a higher level of accountability:yeshrug:
...and im glad lawsuits are being filed against both the government and Boeing.
 

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Who do you believe should be more beholden and accountable to the people? Private industry or our government?

Government, which is WHY government should have more power to regulate industry.

Industry isn't being held accountable for shyt, which is why it needs to have its power severely checked.
 

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Government, which is WHY government should have more power to regulate industry.

Industry isn't being held accountable for shyt, which is why it needs to have its power severely checked.
They will have to pay damages im sure... the question is will it be enough? What does accountability look like? Is there any outcome that will sate the big government/nationalize contingent?
 

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They will have to pay damages im sure... the question is will it be enough? What does accountability look like? Is there any outcome that will sate the big government/nationalize contingent?

Damages are likely pointless. The person who made the decision did so because they believed that the short-term profits would matter more to their shareholders and their own bottom line than any future penalties, especially because they might not even be there when the penalties come.

I haven't thought about this a ton, but overall I'm thinking something like this:

* Decision-makers who engage in shady shyt in an essential industry should be barred from that industry. Whether it's planes or finances or tech, if you make a major screwup, you should be done. You know how easy it is for a teacher who commits a crime to lose their job and never be able to teach again? Or an athlete to never get picked up by a team again? But some of these business execs can do the most unholy crap and then jump right back into the mix. They should be done.

* When it's determined that shady shyt went down and they're talking about fines, they actually need to talk about criminal consequences. If money was stolen from customers, that's theft. If customer's lives were put in danger, that's reckless endangerment. If customer's died, that's involuntary manslaughter. Screw the fines, most of the a$$holes stay rich anyway. Lock them up.

* When there are fines and damages, that money needs to be recovered from shareholders. Not the shareholders right now, the shareholders who were in charge when it happened. If you sell stolen goods, you have to cough that money back up even if you didn't know they were stolen. Well, if you profit from illegally boosted stocks, that should be considered stolen property, and it needs to be returned.


Hit that shyt right where the decisions are actually made. That's the only thing that will make them stand down.
 

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As the pilots of the doomed Boeing jets in Ethiopia and Indonesia fought to control their planes, they lacked two notable safety features in their cockpits.

One reason: Boeing charged extra for them.

For Boeing and other aircraft manufacturers, the practice of charging to upgrade a standard plane can be lucrative. Top airlines around the world must pay handsomely to have the jets they order fitted with customized add-ons.

Sometimes these optional features involve aesthetics or comfort, like premium seating, fancy lighting or extra bathrooms. But other features involve communication, navigation or safety systems, and are more fundamental to the plane’s operations.

Many airlines, especially low-cost carriers like Indonesia’s Lion Air, have opted not to buy them — and regulators don’t require them.

Doomed Boeing Jets Lacked 2 Safety Features That Company Sold Only as Extras


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