Rinse and Repeat: Green Bay Packers 2017 Offseason Thread
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So brehs what do we think about the draft? I was busy this entire week/weekend so I missed pretty much everything:
Following each pick are two numbers. On a 1-to-10 scale – with 10 being the highest – the first number is the player’s chance to make a significant contribution as a rookie and the second number is his chance to make a significant contribution during his career in Green Bay.
Kevin King, CB, Washington (9, 9):
Josh Jones, S, North Carolina State (7, 8):
Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (5, 7):
Vince Biegel, OLB, Wisconsin (4, 6):
Jamaal Williams, RB, Brigham Young (7, 7):
DeAngelo Yancey, WR, Purdue (2, 4):
Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (4, 5):
Kofi Amichia, G, South Florida (2, 3):
Following each pick are two numbers. On a 1-to-10 scale – with 10 being the highest – the first number is the player’s chance to make a significant contribution as a rookie and the second number is his chance to make a significant contribution during his career in Green Bay.
Kevin King, CB, Washington (9, 9):
Let’s hope the Packers don’t play silly games and make King “earn” the position. The holdovers earned nothing by their play a year ago. King should start from Day One.
At 6 feet 3 inches, he’s the tallest cornerback in Green Bay since Michael Hawthorne in 2003-’04. He’s also 20 times more talented than Hawthorne.
King isn’t one of these developing underclassmen, having started three years at Washington. He has terrific speed, remarkable ball skills and everything it takes to play the press-man system favored by defensive coordinator Dom Capers and cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt.
He needs to get stronger and become a more secure tackler. It’s not that he isn’t willing. It’s just that there are times when he slams into a ball carrier, gets too high and slides off.
Would the Packers have taken Gareon Conley, who went 24th to Oakland amid accusations of rape? Thompson is the only man who knows the answer, and he’ll never say.
Did the Packers prefer White, another savvy senior, to King? My guess is no on the basis of how much speed was emphasized, but White certainly had many redeeming qualities.
Not only is King taller than Quincy Wilson, he’s also faster and more experienced.
At 6 feet 3 inches, he’s the tallest cornerback in Green Bay since Michael Hawthorne in 2003-’04. He’s also 20 times more talented than Hawthorne.
King isn’t one of these developing underclassmen, having started three years at Washington. He has terrific speed, remarkable ball skills and everything it takes to play the press-man system favored by defensive coordinator Dom Capers and cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt.
He needs to get stronger and become a more secure tackler. It’s not that he isn’t willing. It’s just that there are times when he slams into a ball carrier, gets too high and slides off.
Would the Packers have taken Gareon Conley, who went 24th to Oakland amid accusations of rape? Thompson is the only man who knows the answer, and he’ll never say.
Did the Packers prefer White, another savvy senior, to King? My guess is no on the basis of how much speed was emphasized, but White certainly had many redeeming qualities.
Not only is King taller than Quincy Wilson, he’s also faster and more experienced.
Josh Jones, S, North Carolina State (7, 8):
The Cowboys drafted Chidobe Awuzie primarily as a cornerback, which made Jones the eighth safety selected. It was an all-time draft at safety, and the Packers got a good and potentially great player.
Despite his arresting size-speed numbers (6-1½, 221, 4.40), Jones was better playing in the box. He’s a little stiff in the hips, and even with the speed there are reservations about his range.
He’ll need some work playing the middle of the field. At times, he has been overly aggressive in coverage, sitting on or jumping routes and giving up big plays.
With Ha Ha Clinton-Dix patrolling deep, Jones can learn the nuances of off-the-hash coverage in time. His role appears to be as one of the two linebackers in the nickel defense and possibly as the only linebacker in the dime.
Joe Thomas (6-0½, 230) had that job last season. He can be an explosive tackler, as can Jones, but can’t even begin to cover as much ground.
It’s questionable if Jones possesses the physicality to shed a block and tackle a top running back as the lone linebacker in a 4-1 defense. What he should be able to do is blitz or spy the quarterback.
The selection of Jones could enable Morgan Burnett, if he can fend off talented youngster Kentrell Brice’s bid for at least a little playing time, to play 100% of the snaps at safety alongside Clinton-Dix.
Despite his arresting size-speed numbers (6-1½, 221, 4.40), Jones was better playing in the box. He’s a little stiff in the hips, and even with the speed there are reservations about his range.
He’ll need some work playing the middle of the field. At times, he has been overly aggressive in coverage, sitting on or jumping routes and giving up big plays.
With Ha Ha Clinton-Dix patrolling deep, Jones can learn the nuances of off-the-hash coverage in time. His role appears to be as one of the two linebackers in the nickel defense and possibly as the only linebacker in the dime.
Joe Thomas (6-0½, 230) had that job last season. He can be an explosive tackler, as can Jones, but can’t even begin to cover as much ground.
It’s questionable if Jones possesses the physicality to shed a block and tackle a top running back as the lone linebacker in a 4-1 defense. What he should be able to do is blitz or spy the quarterback.
The selection of Jones could enable Morgan Burnett, if he can fend off talented youngster Kentrell Brice’s bid for at least a little playing time, to play 100% of the snaps at safety alongside Clinton-Dix.
Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (5, 7):
Teams didn’t like what they saw from Adams in his first two seasons as a starter. Like a lot of athletic defensive linemen, his effort level ran hot and cold.
As a senior, Adams went from underachiever to achiever. He was named the Tigers’ MVP. There was nothing the matter with his intensity.
Adams’ flashes show dominance. He gets off the ball in a hurry, as Jerel Worthy once did at Michigan State, and was able to overpower some blockers in the SEC for sacks and tackles for loss.
Worthy’s inability to beat NFL guards became apparent 10 days to two weeks into his first Packers’ training camp. He also was too easily buckled at the point of attack. He was a bust.
Adams is stronger and a little bigger than Worthy. His problem at the point is lack of awareness. By the time he recognizes the blocking combination, the double-team is in place and he’s being washed down.
Having lost inside rushers such as Julius Peppers, Datone Jones and Mike Neal in the past year, the Packers drafted Adams to back up Mike Daniels at 3-technique in the 3-4 and possibly join him inside on passing downs.
Adams has the stuff you can’t teach. It’s up to Mike Trgovac, the veteran position coach, to develop his reactions and footwork.
As a senior, Adams went from underachiever to achiever. He was named the Tigers’ MVP. There was nothing the matter with his intensity.
Adams’ flashes show dominance. He gets off the ball in a hurry, as Jerel Worthy once did at Michigan State, and was able to overpower some blockers in the SEC for sacks and tackles for loss.
Worthy’s inability to beat NFL guards became apparent 10 days to two weeks into his first Packers’ training camp. He also was too easily buckled at the point of attack. He was a bust.
Adams is stronger and a little bigger than Worthy. His problem at the point is lack of awareness. By the time he recognizes the blocking combination, the double-team is in place and he’s being washed down.
Having lost inside rushers such as Julius Peppers, Datone Jones and Mike Neal in the past year, the Packers drafted Adams to back up Mike Daniels at 3-technique in the 3-4 and possibly join him inside on passing downs.
Adams has the stuff you can’t teach. It’s up to Mike Trgovac, the veteran position coach, to develop his reactions and footwork.
Vince Biegel, OLB, Wisconsin (4, 6):
Thirteen outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense were off the board when Biegel led off the fourth round. The Packers took him over Auburn’s Carl Lawson and running back Samaje Perine of Oklahoma, a player regarded highly by some teams for his power running and personality.
Nevertheless, the Packers think they might have hit it big with Biegel, and rightly so.
This is no projection, and there’s no need for rookie orientation. He played in a 3-4 at Wisconsin, and he also knows all about the team and its fans.
Biegel isn’t as big or quite as fast as Kyler Fackrell, who was drafted 20 slots earlier a year ago. But Biegel is thicker and probably stronger.
In coverage, Biegel will have work to do. Teams will try to exploit him with the pass, and some personnel people questioned his stoutness against the run.
If Biegel can’t win consistently as an outside rusher, there’s a chance he could play inside. His father, Rocky, played off the ball at Brigham Young, and a scout for an NFL team said Sunday that they seriously considered drafting Biegel and playing him at inside linebacker.
The Packers didn’t fill their void for an every-down, talented inside linebacker. Whatever the assignment, Biegel can be expected to go all-out.
Nevertheless, the Packers think they might have hit it big with Biegel, and rightly so.
This is no projection, and there’s no need for rookie orientation. He played in a 3-4 at Wisconsin, and he also knows all about the team and its fans.
Biegel isn’t as big or quite as fast as Kyler Fackrell, who was drafted 20 slots earlier a year ago. But Biegel is thicker and probably stronger.
In coverage, Biegel will have work to do. Teams will try to exploit him with the pass, and some personnel people questioned his stoutness against the run.
If Biegel can’t win consistently as an outside rusher, there’s a chance he could play inside. His father, Rocky, played off the ball at Brigham Young, and a scout for an NFL team said Sunday that they seriously considered drafting Biegel and playing him at inside linebacker.
The Packers didn’t fill their void for an every-down, talented inside linebacker. Whatever the assignment, Biegel can be expected to go all-out.
Jamaal Williams, RB, Brigham Young (7, 7):
The Packers were looking for a heavy-duty complement to Ty Montgomery. Given where they took Williams, he’ll receive every chance to start the opener so Montgomery is fresh for passing situations.
The first words from just about every scout on Williams described just how hard he runs. He brings it down after down. Wayne Gallman and Marlon Mack were among the backs remaining at the time, but the Packers went with Williams because of his workhorse mentality.
Medical and off-field concerns cost Williams a few dollars and made him the 13th ball carrier selected.
Williams is a classic one-cut, downhill power runner. He can’t create. He needs a lane. He has vision, strength and a degree of elusiveness.
He delivers punishment but, as an upright runner, takes punishment. The concern is his rather linear lower body. His legs aren’t running back-thick. He looks almost like a strong safety. He’s also somewhat stiff in the hips and ankles.
His inexperience both as a pass receiver and blocker is another reason why he lasted until the 134th pick.
The first words from just about every scout on Williams described just how hard he runs. He brings it down after down. Wayne Gallman and Marlon Mack were among the backs remaining at the time, but the Packers went with Williams because of his workhorse mentality.
Medical and off-field concerns cost Williams a few dollars and made him the 13th ball carrier selected.
Williams is a classic one-cut, downhill power runner. He can’t create. He needs a lane. He has vision, strength and a degree of elusiveness.
He delivers punishment but, as an upright runner, takes punishment. The concern is his rather linear lower body. His legs aren’t running back-thick. He looks almost like a strong safety. He’s also somewhat stiff in the hips and ankles.
His inexperience both as a pass receiver and blocker is another reason why he lasted until the 134th pick.
DeAngelo Yancey, WR, Purdue (2, 4):
There were a ton of wide receivers clumped after the second round. The Packers drafted Yancey as the 25th over players like Robert Davis and Stacy Coley.
Yancey is a size-speed prospect with considerable route savvy. He has demonstrated the burst to take the top off of a defense and the understanding how to track and catch the deep ball.
The Boilermakers were 9-39 in Yancey’s four seasons, and poor quarterback play was his constant cross to bear.
We’ll see if the Packers stretched and drafted him a round or two early. The Packers want their last receiver to cover on special teams, which Jeff Janis can and both Geronimo Allison and Trevor Davis really can’t.
With his size (6-1½, 220), maybe Yancey can run down with temperament and tackle someone.
Yancey is a size-speed prospect with considerable route savvy. He has demonstrated the burst to take the top off of a defense and the understanding how to track and catch the deep ball.
The Boilermakers were 9-39 in Yancey’s four seasons, and poor quarterback play was his constant cross to bear.
We’ll see if the Packers stretched and drafted him a round or two early. The Packers want their last receiver to cover on special teams, which Jeff Janis can and both Geronimo Allison and Trevor Davis really can’t.
With his size (6-1½, 220), maybe Yancey can run down with temperament and tackle someone.
Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (4, 5):
Jones played in Conference USA for a downtrodden program that went 18-31 during his four years. His status as the Miners’ all-time leading rusher (4,114 yards) and an outstanding workout made him the 19th running back selected.
Jones played faster than his 4.58-second clocking in the 40-yard dash. He showed quickness and an explosive cutting ability, both laterally and north-south.
He’s not a heavy hitter but doesn’t go down easily, either. One scout called him a “poor man’s Frank Gore.” The Packers can only hope.
Durability and ball security are the major knocks on Jones. He fumbled nine times, and scouts all noticed. It remains to be seen just how advanced he is in the passing game.
Jones played faster than his 4.58-second clocking in the 40-yard dash. He showed quickness and an explosive cutting ability, both laterally and north-south.
He’s not a heavy hitter but doesn’t go down easily, either. One scout called him a “poor man’s Frank Gore.” The Packers can only hope.
Durability and ball security are the major knocks on Jones. He fumbled nine times, and scouts all noticed. It remains to be seen just how advanced he is in the passing game.
Kofi Amichia, G, South Florida (2, 3):
He started at left tackle the past two years but doesn’t have the length to play there in the NFL. Among a short list of guards, the Packers came up with Amichia and projected him inside. Given the alternatives, he was worth a shot.
What Amichia has going is athleticism. He’s a workout warrior with a 4.98 40, a vertical jump of 33½ inches and a broad jump of 9 feet 6 inches.
He’s also extremely smart, as his score of 31 on the Wonderlic intelligence test would attest.
Amichia was drafted over big-school guards like USC’s Damien Mama and Michigan’s Ben Braden. The question is whether Amichia, who played at about 292 but is now 308, possesses the power to bang physically against the space-eaters he’ll encounter on Sundays.
Drafted as a guard, the Packers can be expected to give him extensive reps at center, too.
Devante Mays, RB, Utah State (2, 2): After two years of junior-college ball, Mays carried just 202 times in 1½ seasons in the Mountain West Conference before an ankle-knee injury ended his 2016 campaign in late September.
He’s another athletic trait guy with a vertical jump of 40½, a broad jump of 10-9 and a fast 40 (4.51). The Packers made him the 22nd tailback selected because his height-weight-speed fit their profile.
Mays runs harder than Jones but not as hard as Williams. Noting his career reception total of two, one scout Sunday labeled him as a “liability” in pass protection.
Two teams surveyed Sunday had him as a free agent on their draft board.
Malachi Dupre, WR, Louisiana State (2, 4): As the 32nd wide receiver chosen, you wouldn’t expect much from this player. However, that isn’t the case.
Dupre is a third-year junior with extensive playing time in an winning program. Like Yancey, he was handicapped by lousy quarterbacking.
He’s an outside-the-numbers receiver with enough acceleration to haul in a take-off off a three- to five-step drop. He has size (6-2½, 194), speed (4.50), tremendous testing numbers and the demonstrated ability to make the circus catch.
Dupre’s chances likely will hinge on his ability to release from press coverage. He’s lean and lacks strength, and there are doubts about his willingness to work in traffic.
What Amichia has going is athleticism. He’s a workout warrior with a 4.98 40, a vertical jump of 33½ inches and a broad jump of 9 feet 6 inches.
He’s also extremely smart, as his score of 31 on the Wonderlic intelligence test would attest.
Amichia was drafted over big-school guards like USC’s Damien Mama and Michigan’s Ben Braden. The question is whether Amichia, who played at about 292 but is now 308, possesses the power to bang physically against the space-eaters he’ll encounter on Sundays.
Drafted as a guard, the Packers can be expected to give him extensive reps at center, too.
Devante Mays, RB, Utah State (2, 2): After two years of junior-college ball, Mays carried just 202 times in 1½ seasons in the Mountain West Conference before an ankle-knee injury ended his 2016 campaign in late September.
He’s another athletic trait guy with a vertical jump of 40½, a broad jump of 10-9 and a fast 40 (4.51). The Packers made him the 22nd tailback selected because his height-weight-speed fit their profile.
Mays runs harder than Jones but not as hard as Williams. Noting his career reception total of two, one scout Sunday labeled him as a “liability” in pass protection.
Two teams surveyed Sunday had him as a free agent on their draft board.
Malachi Dupre, WR, Louisiana State (2, 4): As the 32nd wide receiver chosen, you wouldn’t expect much from this player. However, that isn’t the case.
Dupre is a third-year junior with extensive playing time in an winning program. Like Yancey, he was handicapped by lousy quarterbacking.
He’s an outside-the-numbers receiver with enough acceleration to haul in a take-off off a three- to five-step drop. He has size (6-2½, 194), speed (4.50), tremendous testing numbers and the demonstrated ability to make the circus catch.
Dupre’s chances likely will hinge on his ability to release from press coverage. He’s lean and lacks strength, and there are doubts about his willingness to work in traffic.
Packers Draft Classes: 2010 to 2013
My gawd brehs...look at our 2012 and 2013 draft picks. No wonder this team is gutless/full of so many wholes.
2012
Round Pick Player Position School Status
1 28 Nick Perry OLB USC On team
2 51 Jerel Worthy DE Michigan St. Cut
2 62 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt Left during free agency
4 132 Mike Daniels DE Iowa On team
4 133 Jerron McMillian S Maine Cut during 2013 regular season
5 163 Terrell Manning ILB NC State Cut after training camp 2013, signed by Chargers
7 241 Andrew Datko OT Florida St. Cut after training camp 2013
7 243 B.J. Coleman QB Tenn-Chattanooga Cut after training camp 2013
2013
Round Pick Player Position School Packers Status
1 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA Left during free agency
2 61 Eddie Lacy RB Alabama Left during free agency
4 109 David Bakhtiari OT Colorado On team
4 122 JC Tretter OL Cornell On team
4 125 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA On team (IR)
5 159 Micah Hyde CB Iowa Left during free agency
5 167 Josh Boyd DT Miss. St. Cut
6 193 Nate Palmer OLB Illinois St. Cut
7 216 Charles Johnson WR Grand Valley St. On practice squad in 2013, signed off PS by Browns
7 224 Kevin Dorsey WR Maryland On team (IR); cut
7 232 Sam Barrington ILB South Florida On team (IR); cut
My gawd brehs...look at our 2012 and 2013 draft picks. No wonder this team is gutless/full of so many wholes. 2012
Round Pick Player Position School Status
1 28 Nick Perry OLB USC On team
2 51 Jerel Worthy DE Michigan St. Cut
2 62 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt Left during free agency
4 132 Mike Daniels DE Iowa On team
4 133 Jerron McMillian S Maine Cut during 2013 regular season
5 163 Terrell Manning ILB NC State Cut after training camp 2013, signed by Chargers
7 241 Andrew Datko OT Florida St. Cut after training camp 2013
7 243 B.J. Coleman QB Tenn-Chattanooga Cut after training camp 2013
2013
Round Pick Player Position School Packers Status
1 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA Left during free agency
2 61 Eddie Lacy RB Alabama Left during free agency
4 109 David Bakhtiari OT Colorado On team
4 122 JC Tretter OL Cornell On team
4 125 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA On team (IR)
5 159 Micah Hyde CB Iowa Left during free agency
5 167 Josh Boyd DT Miss. St. Cut
6 193 Nate Palmer OLB Illinois St. Cut
7 216 Charles Johnson WR Grand Valley St. On practice squad in 2013, signed off PS by Browns
7 224 Kevin Dorsey WR Maryland On team (IR); cut
7 232 Sam Barrington ILB South Florida On team (IR); cut
I dislike TT so much for real its gonna be another fukking wasted year of Aaron prime .
Don't give a fukk how good he feels .
This defense isn't better this should've been the fukking year u get a big free agent on defense .
I'm sure king will have a decent year but it's not enough.
Old fakkit pisses me off .
Tired of getting my heart broken .
Don't give a fukk how good he feels .
This defense isn't better this should've been the fukking year u get a big free agent on defense .
I'm sure king will have a decent year but it's not enough.
Old fakkit pisses me off .
Tired of getting my heart broken .
yoooooooo someone finally gets it!
lol we gon be alright...essentially we just replaced all our free agents. Who in free agency should we have gone after?
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If I Were The GM – PACKERS NOTES
If I Were The GM
I hate when a year or two after the fact people say they would’ve drafted this guy instead of this guy. It’s too easy. So I decided to pick along with GM Ted Thompson and make my selections right before he made his. These were my picks:
Round 2 (#33): The only cornerbacks I would’ve taken at this point in the draft were Ohio State’s Marshon Lattimore, USC’s Adoree’ Jackson and LSU’s Tre’Davious White, and they were all off the board. I completely understand why Thompson opted for the greater need and grabbed Kevin King, but I think Florida State’s Dalvin Cook will be a truly special player, and that’s very difficult to pass up in the second round.
PICK: RB DALVIN COOK
Round 2 (#61): Chidobe Awuzie was my target here, but Dallas stole the cornerback from Colorado at 60. I’m intrigued by the choice of Josh Jones, but Kansas State’s Jordan Willis was a better player in college and has a chance to be a big-time pass rusher. Those guys aren’t normally around late in the second round.
PICK: OLB JORDAN WILLIS
Round 3 (#93): Montravius Adams was a good value pick at 93, but I couldn’t let day 2 end without selecting a corner. The best one left was Cordrea Tankersley of Clemson. Did I wait too long? Perhaps, but when push came to shove, I wasn’t willing to lose out on Cook and there were no corners worth taking at 61.
PICK: CB CORDREA TANKERLEY
Round 4 (#108): I thought Auburn edge rusher Carl Lawson was a second round pick heading into the draft, so I wasn’t going to pass him up at this point. His long history of injuries might’ve made him too big of a gamble on day 2, but it’s well worth rolling the dice in round 4. It’ll be interesting to watch and see whether the less talented but much cleaner Vince Biegel has a better career in the National Football League.
PICK: OLB CARL LAWSON
Round 4 (#134): Thompson needed to add a running back and he chose Jamaal Williams. I didn’t need Clemson’s Wayne Gallman but couldn’t pass him up. This was simply a matter of taking the best player available, and as will be the case with Biegel and Lawson, it’ll be interesting to see which back has the better career.
PICK: RB WAYNE GALLMAN
Round 5 (#175): The only pick on day 3 that I didn’t really like was DeAngelo Yancey. He’s a decent prospect, but the fifth round seemed a bit early. The Packers bought time at right guard by signing verteran Jahri Evans, but they’ll need a long-term replacement in a year. Danny Isadora of Miami could be that guy.
PICK: OL DANNY ISADORA
Round 5 (#182): I really liked the pick of Aaron Jones, but there’s no need at running back with Cook and Gallman already on board. So with Brett Hundley likely to be moved after the season and Joe Callahan nothing more than a No. 3, it makes sense to grab Miami’s Brad Kaaya, who could be pretty good with quality coaching.
PICK: QB BRAD KAAYA
Round 6 (#212): I drafted a raw but talented interior offensive lineman earlier so there was no need to double dip with Kofi Amichia, especially with LSU’s Malachi Dupre still on the board. I was disappointed when Thompson didn’t take the acrobatic wide receiver from LSU – until about an hour or so later when he did.
PICK: WR MALACHI DUPRE
Round 7 (#238): Thompson took a third running back in Devante Mays, and I took a third outside linebacker in Carroll Phillips. A team can never have enough pass rushers, and I considered the former Illinois star to be one of the top “under the radar” prospects heading into the draft. He’s a steal at this point.
PICK: OLB CARROLL PHILLIPS
Round 7 (#247): Thompson grabbed wide receiver Malachi Dupre, whom I had already chosen in round 6. Youngstown State’s David Rivers is an interesting prospect. He’s not as tall or as fast as King, but he’s got better short-area quickness. I could envision him being a useful slot corner and a core member of special teams.
PICK: CB DAVID RIVERS
One more thing, if I were truly the GM, I would’ve traded up in the second round to ensure getting Awuzie. I would’ve gladly sacrificed a day 3 pick to get a player I very well might’ve taken at 33 had Cook not been there.
I was hoping for Cook at RB in the 2nd round... but I'm not mad at getting a CB with good measurableS... can he play to them in the league though? I trust Joe Whitt though. King reminds me of House who was picked in the 4th round.
The Yancey pick I don't like, I would have tried to get another LB or OL there.
The Aaron Jones pick is fine but again, I would have tried to address one of our crappy positions like LB...
Ted still hasn't drafted an ILB high since Hawk.
I feel you on the explosiveness of dalvin cook, but I feel that would've been a luxury pick, and we're not in a position of luxury. On paper, we really don't look terrible on offense. Remember we played all season without lacy, Ty and Michaels showed they had skills, so rb wasn't a need like it was when we were trying to shift away from ryan grant.
Right now, our cb depth chart looks like:
1) House
2) King
3) Gunter (Don't sleep man. Yes Gunter got burned, but that boy showed up to play every week. He has heart man!)
4) Randall
5) Rollins
and that's just at cb
....I'm excitedCause behind them we have Morgan (who will be injured a quarter of the year), HaHa, and Jones.
Believe it or not, our secondary depth, on paper, looks like one of the best in the NFC.
Edit: And for me, this is what makes the King pick the best pick in our draft. It's not even a question if he's a day 1 starter. Adding him to that depth chart takes the backfield from a C to an automatic B once you shift everyone down a spot. Then when you realize we still picked up a Micah Hyde type player....
...I'm finally excited about the year again.
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I feel you on the explosiveness of dalvin cook, but I feel that would've been a luxury pick, and we're not in a position of luxury. On paper, we really don't look terrible on offense. Remember we played all season without lacy, Ty and Michaels showed they had skills, so rb wasn't a need like it was when we were trying to shift away from ryan grant.
Right now, our cb depth chart looks like:
1) House
2) King
3) Gunter (Don't sleep man. Yes Gunter got burned, but that boy showed up to play every week. He has heart man!)
4) Randall
5) Rollins
and that's just at cb
Cause behind them we have Morgan (who will be injured a quarter of the year), HaHa, and Jones.
Believe it or not, our secondary depth, on paper, looks like one of the best in the NFC.
Edit: And for me, this is what makes the King pick the best pick in our draft. It's not even a question if he's a day 1 starter. Adding him to that depth chart takes the backfield from a C to an automatic B once you shift everyone down a spot. Then when you realize we still picked up a Micah Hyde type player....
Brice is another fast DB who got some burn last year and played well on STs.
We definitely have more speed now and House will do a better job on the likes of Julio..
Now we just need a pass rush
Our ILB still 
as shyt
Hopefully we get some formations this year that have Burnett playing inside the box now with Jones and Ha Ha in the back.
as shytHopefully we get some formations this year that have Burnett playing inside the box now with Jones and Ha Ha in the back.
